2012 internet ends

[darkbeaver]

Update: Bell Canada and TELUS (formerly owned by Verizon) employees officially confirm that by 2012 ISP's all over the globe will reduce Internet access to a TV-like subscription model, only offering access to a small standard amount of commercial sites and require extra fees for every other site you visit. These 'other' sites would then lose all their exposure and eventually shut down, resulting in what could be seen as the end of the Internet.
Dylan Pattyn *, who is currently writing an article for Time Magazine on the issue, has official confirmation from sources within Bell Canada and is interviewing a marketing representative from TELUS who confirms the story and states that TELUS has already started blocking all websites that aren't in the subscription package for mobile Internet access. They could not confirm whether it would happen in 2012 because both stated it may actually happen sooner (as early as 2010). Interviews with these sources, more confirmation from other sources and more in-depth information on the issue is set to be published in Time Magazine soon.
What can we do?

The reason why we're releasing this information is because we believe we can stop it. More awareness

http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality2

 

[hermanntrude]

sounds a bit far fetched, but not totally unsurprising.

 

[darkbeaver]

You see they don't want us too educated you know. Can't have all this independent thinking going on what, it isn't healthy for consumers, makes them testy and demanding. Why can't they just stick to the approved commercial sites, are there not enough worthless movies, do we have to add more porn sites, how about game shows or reality net. Does the news not include enough cute lost puppy stories or celebrity laundry. Why do consumers stray off the path onto the grass? Can't they read the signs? Why don't they just take thier dumbing down drugs and get with the imperial program? The bankers are bonkers, inbred you know, the whole squirming mass of them, they all smell alien, damp musky odiferous bastards, boil them all. Let's be senseable hang them with hemp, be responsible.

 

[Zzarchov]

The problem is they don't own the Internet, nor all the servers nor all the lines of communication.

If they make what people want a hassle, then someone will just go around them. Its like saying Wal-Mart is going to force you buy from them. They can offer a deal so good you want to (even reluctantly) purchase from them but if they have a bad deal then you will buy from other stores (or start new ones).

The Internet can have slowdowns among the average consumer, but it was specifically designed to be decentralized and impossible to kill. Im afraid its just not truly controllable.

That being said, I wouldn't doubt it if some corporations go to create their own private Internets (in essence) and make that the default one they try to get the average consumer to purchase.

But without such massive self generating content, the Internet they are selling just won't compete with the currently available options (and someone will greedily sell out Telus and reap the rewards)

 

[darkbeaver]

The problem is they don't own the Internet, nor all the servers nor all the lines of communication.

If they make what people want a hassle, then someone will just go around them. Its like saying Wal-Mart is going to force you buy from them. They can offer a deal so good you want to (even reluctantly) purchase from them but if they have a bad deal then you will buy from other stores (or start new ones).

The Internet can have slowdowns among the average consumer, but it was specifically designed to be decentralized and impossible to kill. Im afraid its just not truly controllable.

That being said, I wouldn't doubt it if some corporations go to create their own private Internets (in essence) and make that the default one they try to get the average consumer to purchase.

But without such massive self generating content, the Internet they are selling just won't compete with the currently available options (and someone will greedily sell out Telus and reap the rewards)

I hope you're right Zz but these people have spent alot of money to control the whole thing, nothing has ever been built that can't be corrupted or destroyed.

 

[Zzarchov]

Well that depends on the definition of corruption,

technically by the strictest definition, the internet is corrupting existing methods and practices. It is a "corrupting" agent in its own right.

 

[Praxius]

I say start making some compact, more affordable and easier accessed Home ISP devices..... there's already pirated satellite receivers where you can get all the channels you want for free.... if they try this crap, like they're doing whay the cell phones companies do (Which their charges per minute for local calls, etc. are totally unessicary and just an extra grab for money) Then I think it's high time someone starts making devices to hook into your DSL/Cable or Phone connection to your home to get these monoplies off our asses.

Then again, I ain't got a clue about the networking required for such a feat..... but I'd be one of the first to buy one of these devices.

If you can hook up a fax machine to your phone line without additional charges, then I don't see why someone couldn't do this and set themselves up as an independant service provider for themselves into their existing wiring in their homes.

It's not the ISP's who host all the web sites we use... they're just the middle man who let us in the door if we give them enough money.

(Speaking of Corruption)

 

[Walter]

New Grid Could Replace Internet, 10,000 x Faster Than Broadband

[SIZE=-1]by: Media Archive | April 10th, 2008 [/SIZE]

If you thought your cable broadband connection and DSL were fast, then you're in for a treat. The new 'Grid' which is expected to make the Internet obsolete will have the capability to download movies, music catalogues, and databases in seconds. At speeds of 10,000 times faster than broadband, "the grid" which was created by scientists at Cern, the center for experimental physics, will become a web of its own.

According to reports, "The Grid" will be able to provide enough power needed to transmit holographic images; allow instant online gaming with hundreds of thousands of players; and offer high-definition video telephony for the price of a local call.

The lightning-fast Grid will become visible sometime this summer after scientists at Cern decide for their "red button" day in which they'll switch-on the Large Hadron Collider (LHC) which is a new particle accelerator built to probe the origin of the universe. The grid will be activated at the same time to capture the data it generates.

The grid has been built with dedicated fibre optic cables and modern routing centres, meaning there are no outdated components to slow the deluge of data. The 55,000 servers already installed are expected to rise to 200,000 within the next two years. Already, Great Britain has more than 8,000 servers on the grid system, and users will be able to hook up to the grid rather than the Internet as early as this fall.

According to Ian Bird, project leader for CERN’s high-speed computing project, grid technology could make the Internet so fast that people would stop using desktop computers to store information and entrust it all to the Internet. Users would use the new "Cloud computing" as a common way to organize personal and private information that would be stored on the Grid and accessible from any where.

The Grid will allow thousands of Research Centers, Universities, etc. share their data storage resources and computing power transforming the Internet into a giant global "Super Computer" and building capacity for the science of tomorrow.

 

[Andem]

If you can hook up a fax machine to your phone line without additional charges, then I don't see why someone couldn't do this and set themselves up as an independant service provider for themselves into their existing wiring in their homes.

It's not the ISP's who host all the web sites we use... they're just the middle man who let us in the door if we give them enough money.

(Speaking of Corruption)

You need uplinks and some kind of connection to a major backbone which isn't cheap by any stretch. It is however very easy to setup an ISP but in Canada, you would need access to the local DSL or Cable lines and from there a subscription to the major Canadian backbones which are also owned by the cable and DSL providers. I know in Western Canada, a large portion of connectivity hardware is owned by Shaw Communications directly or indirectly.

I don't believe any corporation in Canada has any power to limit Internet access, atleast not in the long run.

 

[Scott Free]

Update: Bell Canada and TELUS (formerly owned by Verizon) employees officially confirm that by 2012 ISP's all over the globe will reduce Internet access to a TV-like subscription model, only offering access to a small standard amount of commercial sites and require extra fees for every other site you visit. These 'other' sites would then lose all their exposure and eventually shut down, resulting in what could be seen as the end of the Internet.
Dylan Pattyn *, who is currently writing an article for Time Magazine on the issue, has official confirmation from sources within Bell Canada and is interviewing a marketing representative from TELUS who confirms the story and states that TELUS has already started blocking all websites that aren't in the subscription package for mobile Internet access. They could not confirm whether it would happen in 2012 because both stated it may actually happen sooner (as early as 2010). Interviews with these sources, more confirmation from other sources and more in-depth information on the issue is set to be published in Time Magazine soon.
What can we do?

The reason why we're releasing this information is because we believe we can stop it. More awareness

http://ipower.ning.com/netneutrality2

I heard about this. I'm very excited and hope they go ahead with their plans!

I look forward to starting my own ISP and stealing all their customers.

 

[eh1eh]

Far fetched yes. Who the f**k would pay money for that tripe. I think there will be two levels of service, subscription to high bandwidth site with TV and movie like content and the slow 1 mbps or so type network, you know, it's the one we're on now.:-|