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Our Daily Poison

Our Daily Poison

Stretch

#1Mar 25th, 2008

VIDEO - Super Size My Aspartame by trillion
aspartame is a poison in many of our daily foods. there is a great global awareness of it and its dangerous side affects, but it is still permitted in your food. NZer Abby Cormack is a sufferer of aspartame poisoning, but the NZFSA refuse to recognise her symptoms. Abby is taking a trip to USA to take part in a potentially dangerous experiment to prove to the world that aspartame is bad for us. SHE needs your support. and WE need to lobby to BAN aspartame in our country! DON'T EAT IT!

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Aspartame and Rumsfeld's Disease- A Politically-Induced Biochemical Disaster Of Global Proportions

'Donald Rumsfeld was known throughout the world as the zealous U.S. Secretary of Defense who is waging a global "war on terror" in search of "terrorists" and "weapons of mass destruction." Most people, however, are not aware that Rumsfeld himself unleashed a chemical weapon of mass destruction upon the world in 1981-and it is still out there destroying people all over the world. That "W.M. D." is aspartame and it has been scientifically and anecdotally linked to millions of chronic illnesses and deaths.'
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Walter

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Mar 25th, 2008

Aspertame is ubiquitous and the cancer death-rates are falling. Maybe aspertame prevents cancer deaths.
http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/oct2005/nci-04.htm

Last edited by Walter; Mar 25th, 2008 at 10:04 AM..

Avro

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Mar 25th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by Walter

Aspertame is ubiquitous and the cancer death-rates are falling. Maybe aspertame prevents cancer deaths.
http://www.nih.gov/news/pr/oct2005/nci-04.htm

If wit were **** you'd be constipated.

Maybe early detection and better treatments account for lower death rates old boy.

I never touch the crap, give me sugar or give me death.

MikeyDB

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Mar 25th, 2008

Diabetes is rising like crazy.....

karrie

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Mar 25th, 2008

aspartame has its uses. And considering that products need to be clearly marked with their ingredient list, I don't find it hard to avoid at all. Thus, I vote with my dollars, and worry about more pressing issues than what someone puts in some processed crap.

MikeyDB

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Mar 25th, 2008

Karrie

You're probably not terribly pleased with the findings of a research group recently who found significant quantities o drugs and chemicals (avoidable chemicals) in city water-supplies....

There's no getting away from "progress"....

karrie

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Mar 25th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by MikeyDB

Karrie

You're probably not terribly pleased with the findings of a research group recently who found significant quantities o drugs and chemicals (avoidable chemicals) in city water-supplies....

There's no getting away from "progress"....

I'm not happy with it, but am I surprised? Hell no.

But that's a completely different issue.

Aspartame has uses for people with diabetes. Chemical tainted water is useful to no one. One I can easily avoid by just not buying processed foods. The other I'm stuck with.

MikeyDB

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Mar 25th, 2008

Karrie

I don't know why we seem to be at loggerheads but I disagree with your premise...

It's not a different and separate issue by any measure!

Are you familiar with the term "agressive puberty", with the quantities of estrogen being fed youngsters and everyone else by burger joints...?

We may never know how much our lives have been altered by the chemicals we both voluntarily consume...burgers and the like...and those we have no practical means of identifying and adressing....

Were we more healthy as a species when food was grown naturally and our dependence on herbicides and pesticides and gentically altered foods was far less? How long does it take for a subtle but ubiquitous contamination to alter the well-being of the human race?

We can look at Viet Nam and see the product of dousing dioxins all over the place, we can see the effects of heavy-metal contamination nearly everywhere in the world, but for the more subtle...less evident kinds of contamination that we "accept" as part of our "normal" existence.... Will we ever be able to connect drugs and contaminants in our water supply with spikes and valleys in our study of diabetes or cancer or other diseases?

I think it's all the same issue, whether we knowingly contaminate our personal atmosphere and our local water supply or whether we ignore the impact of conditions we're told yield "prosperity" and wealth" at the expense of our planet.

karrie

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Mar 25th, 2008

Okay, your flow logic is kind of escaping me Mikey.

I don't think the gov would be right to pull aspartame when there are so many people who benefit from it because of their diabetes. And since I can easily avoid buying it, I really don't think that the gov needs to step in and protect me from it.

Chemical tainted water on the other hand, I can't avoid, and I think the gov stepping in and doing something there IS necessary. But the chemicals tainting the water have little to nothing to do with aspartame. So, I don't really see the link between this post and your examples.

Walter

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Mar 25th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by MikeyDB

Were we more healthy as a species when food was grown naturally and our dependence on herbicides and pesticides and gentically altered foods was far less? .

People are healthier and live longer than ever before.
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MikeyDB

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Mar 25th, 2008

Walter

How many hospitals existed before the Industrial Revolution?

How many X-ray machines saved lives during the Inquisitions?

How much longer might people live if we were focused on life instead of profit?

karrie

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Mar 25th, 2008

As a fibro sufferer, when people say 'but we live longer now', I always think 'yay... so I get twice as long to spend half my days wanting to die because of the pain. Sweet.'

Living longer and living better.... not the same thing.

Walter

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Mar 25th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by MikeyDB

Walter

How many hospitals existed before the Industrial Revolution?

How many X-ray machines saved lives during the Inquisitions?

How much longer might people live if we were focused on life instead of profit?

The information I cited is for the last half of the 20th century.

MikeyDB

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Mar 25th, 2008

Walter

The premise I've introduced is for eternity.

Walter

#15

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Mar 25th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by MikeyDB

The premise I've introduced is for eternity.

All the chemicals and technologies you have cited were intoduced to the human race in the last 100 years.

MikeyDB

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Mar 25th, 2008

Walter

And so?

As you've already pointed out, economics are cyclic in nature. Why do you suppose that is?

Could it be because (as example) education and technology are reserved in the name of the few...to yield profits and "superiority" over the peons whom we blame for wanting a quality of life we take for granted....who sneak into our countries through whatever means are available then work for the wealthy who keep their near slavery secret while disparaging the situation?

Think bigger Walt!

Stretch

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Mar 25th, 2008

Karrie said...... >>I don't think the gov would be right to pull aspartame when there are so many people who benefit from it because of their diabetes.<<

Nobody benefits from the intake of aspartame.... Do you you know that a very small percentage of the fda approved allowable amount for human consumption causes tumors in lab rats.

aspartame dangers....
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Walter

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Mar 25th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by Stretch

Do you you know that a very small percentage of the fda approved allowable amount for human consumption causes tumors in lab rats.

So, don't feed your rats aspertame; let them get fat on sugar.

karrie

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Mar 25th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by Stretch

Nobody benefits from the intake of aspartame.... Do you you know that a very small percentage of the fda approved allowable amount for human consumption causes tumors in lab rats.

The steroid cream my daughter uses to try to keep the red welts down on her face doesn't benefit her either, except in an aesthetic sense. Steroids are hard on numerous systems in your body.

The anti-inflammatories I take cause damage to stomach linings (the damage may eventually lead to cancer) and kidneys. They make no difference in the long run for my health, they just make a couple hours bearable.

The perming solution/dye solution people use to attain a certain look are harmful and may cause cancer in the long run.

There are so many things in life Stretch that we weigh out in risk and reward. If someone with diabetes wants to risk cancer to enjoy a soda, that's their choice IMO.

Stretch

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Mar 25th, 2008

why would the sugar industry put aspartame in sugar?

>>In one lecture attended by the Ambassador of Uganda, he told us that their sugar industry is adding aspartame! <<
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ever heard of population control, or the global 200 report to the president..........

Stretch

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Mar 31st, 2008

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I believe that aspartame can aggravate diabetes and its complications, especially eye problems and neuropathy, or it can simulate the complications of diabetes. In other words, aspartame disease can simulate diabetic retinopathy or peripheral neuropathy. When patients discontinue these products, they usually get better. In terms of aggravating diabetes, consuming aspartame either can bring out latent diabetes clinically or can lead to insulin resistance, which would require patients to take oral drugs to increase the amount of insulin required. The bottom line is that when people stop ingesting these products, the symptoms usually improve.
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MikeyDB

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Mar 31st, 2008

Karrie

While I'm a big fan of freedom as concept, where is the line drawn between what freedoms a person can exercise and when the exercise of those freedoms impacts government taxpayers and others?

We seem prepared to accept that tobbacco abuse is costing us not only lives but enormous amounts of taxpayer money treating illnesses that arise from the use of this product. We've talked about people being held accountable before the law if they smoke tobbacco while children are present in the car.....

Who decides when your freedom eclipses mine?

johai

#23

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Mar 31st, 2008

Our Daily Poison

Freedom for us exists because we practice it every day. If someone abuses that we all lose. It must be nurtured and defended to our last breath. Canadians should be thankful that it has not suffered the damage done to it south of the border for political and monetary reasons. I had the occasion to run into Jean Charest some years ago and was not accosted by his security and was able to say what I wanted even if it was derogatory . I wasn't warned as to what I could or could not say. I didn't need to prove who I was or why I had requested to speak to him.
Unfortunately our federal system isn't as forgiving, but thrown into the mix I don't think our freedom has suffered to any noticeable degree. If we are not vigilant in our quest to protect something that is foreign to so many in the world then we are lost.

Stretch

#24

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Apr 1st, 2008

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchvkelCNeaturerelated

Stretch

#25

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Apr 2nd, 2008

Aspartame Is Neurotoxic Genotoxic Molecular Food And Vaccine Pharmaco-Genocide
'Aspartame was approved by the FDA for food and medicine in the 1980s after the intervention of Donald Rumsfeld, recently Minister of Defense to Geo Bush Jr. Terms 1 and 2. The poison of Aspartame dipeptide is a deadly neurotoxin and genotoxin. This paper will analyze results of extensive animal studies, human case reviews, cellular pathology and a logical analysis of biochemical and cellular toxicology.'
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Stretch

#26

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Apr 4th, 2008

Review raises questions over aspartame and brain health

'Excessive intake of aspartame may inhibit the ability of enzymes in the brain to function normally, suggests a new review that could fan the flames of controversy over the sweetener. The review, by scientists from the University of Pretoria and the University of Limpopo and published recently in the European Journal of Clinical Nutrition, indicated that high consumption of the sweetener may lead to neurodegeneration.'
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Stretch

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Apr 10th, 2008

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Does your soda, Crystal Light or chewing gum contain a neurotoxin? If it contains aspartame, you are ingesting a neurotoxin and a carcinogen. Numerous independent studies, by reputable institutions, prove that this artificial sweetener destroys healthy brain tissue, lowers the seizure threshold, depletes serotonin and damages DNA.

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karrie

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Apr 10th, 2008

Quote: Originally Posted by MikeyDB

Karrie

While I'm a big fan of freedom as concept, where is the line drawn between what freedoms a person can exercise and when the exercise of those freedoms impacts government taxpayers and others?

We seem prepared to accept that tobbacco abuse is costing us not only lives but enormous amounts of taxpayer money treating illnesses that arise from the use of this product. We've talked about people being held accountable before the law if they smoke tobbacco while children are present in the car.....

Who decides when your freedom eclipses mine?

Hmm... I'd missed this post in my travels.

Which of your freedoms do you think aspartame infringes upon? Have you been able to find any solid medical research which demonstrates a medical burden arising from it (I haven't, despite trying because I was solidly against its use)? Have you ever 'had' to eat it despite not wanting to, because no products were available without it? I haven't. And I can't consume the stuff. Makes me horridly ill.

Stretch

#29

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Apr 10th, 2008

'Fluoridation is the greatest case of scientific fraud of this century, if not of all time'
Bob Carton. The EPA's Fluoride Fraud, Earth Island Journal Special Report "Fluorides And The Environment"

"In Canada we are now spending more money treating dental fluorosis than we do treating cavities.”
Dr Harvey Limeback, President of the Canadian Association for Dental Research, addressing his Faculty, 1999

WARNING! The cult of water fluoridation is spreading. If the new attempt to spread this bogus medication across the UK succeeds, then an epidemic of chronic fluoride poisoning will sweep the country, as it has in fluoridated Ireland.
Three or four of the children in every classroom will develop a disfiguring condition, dental fluorosis, that fanatical fluoride pushers casually dismiss as 'only a slight cosmetic defect'.
Their parents will be forced to meet the repeated costs of cosmetic dentistry. So disadvantaged families will actually suffer from even greater 'health inequalities' than they do at present.
This lunatic 'cure' does not actually work - it simply adds another disease to the burden of the poor.

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Stretch

#30

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Apr 10th, 2008

Nanotechnology and Nanoparticles Become Common in Consumer Products

'“The general public needs to be aware that there are unknown risks associated with the products they buy containing nanomaterials,” researchers Paul Westerhoff and Troy M. Benn said in a report scheduled for the 235th national meeting of the American Chemical Society (ACS).

Westerhoff and Benn report that ordinary laundering can wash off substantial amounts of the nanosilver particles from socks impregnated with the material. The Arizona State researchers suggest that the particles, intended to prevent foot odor, could travel through a wastewater treatment system and enter natural waterways where they might have unwanted effects on aquatic organisms living in the water and possibly humans, too.'
(Exactly as planned)
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