Abortion is wrong no matter what! Part 2
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Abortion is wrong no matter what! Part 2


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February 10th, 2007, 02:42 PM

A decision is none of my business, if hurts no-one.

I am not really against same-sex marriage - hurts no-one.

Abortion, I am against, because it does hurt the life. And it is NOT their choice when it hurts someone else. Its MY choice, if it hurts another.
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February 10th, 2007, 02:48 PM

So you'd consider a 5 week old fetus a life?
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February 10th, 2007, 02:50 PM

Yes. A human life is the fertilization of the sperm and egg.

The zygote is the earliest form of human life. But its still human life at that.
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February 10th, 2007, 02:52 PM

And do you feel this way about all life?
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February 10th, 2007, 02:54 PM

Human life is the most valued life form.

So it does not make sense for me to care about a fly.

Insects don't matter. But animals are more evolved, so they are not as high as value as humans, but if an animal is being killed by some creep for no use, then its wrong.

Human life is of the utmost value, and I value all human life. Even at the first stage.
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February 10th, 2007, 02:57 PM

So insects don't matter but a 5 week old fetus does?
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February 10th, 2007, 03:04 PM

Ok your just being petty and silly.

Me swatting a pesky fly and you comparing my value of the life of a fly and a 5 week old fetus is unpresidented.

I will not answer that question, because people who are logical, will know that statement has now barring.
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February 10th, 2007, 03:11 PM

Dude, a life's a life. True, a human life is more important, but an insects life is important too. Just because it's a different type of creature doesn't give us the right to take it's life.
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February 10th, 2007, 03:16 PM

Sounds pretty Buddhist. Careful you don't step on any microbes, I'd argue that they're the most important life form on earth.
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February 10th, 2007, 03:21 PM

Janist........need a broom? Ive a besom you can borrow.
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February 10th, 2007, 03:36 PM

So have any of you heard of Gametalk?
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February 10th, 2007, 05:01 PM

I am having trouble with Rawisbetter!'s logic. Should I let the insects and mice run free through my home, and not kill them? Should I leave the flies alone in my house at peace?

I am killing skin cells rate now by pressing my fingers on the keyboard: Oh no!

Seriously...

You were the one who brought up this thread TWICE. I thought you were against abortion, and thought it was wrong..
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February 10th, 2007, 05:08 PM

Quoting westmanguy
I am having trouble with Rawisbetter!'s logic. Should I let the insects and mice run free through my home, and not kill them? Should I leave the flies alone in my house at peace?

I am killing skin cells rate now by pressing my fingers on the keyboard: Oh no!

Seriously...

You were the one who brought up this thread TWICE. I thought you were against abortion, and thought it was wrong..

If you go back through Mr Raws posts you'll see a pattern........stir the pot.........watch the pot..........ask ungermane questions to go off topic.............ect
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February 10th, 2007, 05:16 PM

Let's get some things strait. The reason I posted this thread twice is because my first one got locked, due to someone else flamming.



"I am having trouble with Rawisbetter!'s logic. Should I let the insects and mice run free through my home, and not kill them? Should I leave the flies alone in my house at peace?"


If you don't want them in your home, then get rid of them without killing or injuring them. Then do something to your home that keeps them out. But to deliberatly take another life is wrong.



"I am killing skin cells rate now by pressing my fingers on the keyboard: Oh no!

Seriously...


I thought you were against abortion, and thought it was wrong.."



You don't get me do you? I'm Rawisbetter!. The single biggest attraction to Gametalk before they kicked me off. I argue from every point of view(Mainly from the conservative side). I do it for the sake of arguing. If someone doesn't make much sense in a thread, I call them out on it. You said you think abortion is wrong because you consider the fetus a life once the sperm fertilizes the egg. So if you consider a day old fetus, a valuable life, then shouldn't you feel the same way about a mouse, or a cat? If you don't then it doesn't quite add up.
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February 10th, 2007, 05:20 PM

Quoting Rawisbetter!
Let's get some things strait. The reason I posted this thread twice is because my first one got locked, due to someone else flamming.



"I am having trouble with Rawisbetter!'s logic. Should I let the insects and mice run free through my home, and not kill them? Should I leave the flies alone in my house at peace?"


If you don't want them in your home, then get rid of them without killing or injuring them. Then do something to your home that keeps them out. But to deliberatly take another life is wrong.



"I am killing skin cells rate now by pressing my fingers on the keyboard: Oh no!

Seriously...


I thought you were against abortion, and thought it was wrong.."



You don't get me do you? I'm Rawisbetter!. The single biggest attraction to Gametalk before they kicked me off. I argue from every point of view(Mainly from the conservative side). I do it for the sake of arguing. If someone doesn't make much sense in a thread, I call them out on it. You said you think abortion is wrong because you consider the fetus a life once the sperm fertilizes the egg. So if you consider a day old fetus, a valuable life, then shouldn't you feel the same way about a mouse, or a cat? If you don't then it doesn't quite add up.
ARTICULATION!!! Amazing......keep it up!
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February 10th, 2007, 05:27 PM

Why argue a side you disagree with? That makes no sense.

A zygote is the earliest stage of human life.

I consider all stages of human life equal, don't you?

HUMAN life, HUMAN.
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February 10th, 2007, 05:33 PM

"Why argue a side you disagree with? That makes no sense."


To argue with everyone. Hey, I might learn something new and change my views on certain topics if I argue with a smart person who presents interesting facts and points.



"I consider all stages of human life equal, don't you?"



No.



"HUMAN life, HUMAN."


I'm getting the impression that you're a speciesist.
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February 10th, 2007, 05:50 PM

Quoting Rawisbetter!
"Why argue a side you disagree with? That makes no sense."


To argue with everyone. Hey, I might learn something new and change my views on certain topics if I argue with a smart person who presents interesting facts and points.



"I consider all stages of human life equal, don't you?"



No.



"HUMAN life, HUMAN."


I'm getting the impression that you're a speciesist.
I'm assuming then that you're against abortion for rape cases as well.
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