Sunshine
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Location: Vancouver Island
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February 6th, 2007, 02:10 PM
Quoting marygaspe
That is your opinion, that is not fact. We cannot make laws based on opinions. I do not see it as immoral, nor do I see it as murder. And I do not believe in sin.
Because it is immoral, it is a sin and it is murder..are these enough reasons for you?
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February 6th, 2007, 02:10 PM
immoral things needn't be illegal things. sins are dictated by religious people and NOT the government, and muder is a legal term usually only applicable to human beings beyond the term of pregnancy.
immoral things needn't be illegal things. sins are dictated by religious people and NOT the government, and muder is a legal term usually only applicable to human beings beyond the term of pregnancy.
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February 6th, 2007, 02:12 PM
this is why relgion and government should be separate. if the church wants things one way or another they can preach it to their followers but they should not be able to demand that it become law
this is why relgion and government should be separate. if the church wants things one way or another they can preach it to their followers but they should not be able to demand that it become law
Clever Clogs
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February 6th, 2007, 02:55 PM
Quoting hermanntrude
As it suits society, right? Every law we have in the west arrived to us through biblical teachings, so now we are to pick those things we want or don't want, right?
this is why relgion and government should be separate. if the church wants things one way or another they can preach it to their followers but they should not be able to demand that it become law
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February 6th, 2007, 02:59 PM
Im kinda torn here..Im against abortion..but for killing babies..decisions..
I think the debate would be more civil if people had to refer to their position in a negative way "Im Pro-Baby Murder!/ Pro-Female Slavery!" and the opposing position in the nice neat sanitized "Pro-Choice/Pro-Life". The question isn't pro-choice or pro-life, everybody likes both of them. The question is whats more important, living enslaved or being dead but free.
Im kinda torn here..Im against abortion..but for killing babies..decisions..
I think the debate would be more civil if people had to refer to their position in a negative way "Im Pro-Baby Murder!/ Pro-Female Slavery!" and the opposing position in the nice neat sanitized "Pro-Choice/Pro-Life". The question isn't pro-choice or pro-life, everybody likes both of them. The question is whats more important, living enslaved or being dead but free.
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February 6th, 2007, 03:01 PM
Quoting marygaspe
Exactly, it should be society that dicates what the laws should be, not a piece of fiction from 2000 years ago...
As it suits society, right? Every law we have in the west arrived to us through biblical teachings, so now we are to pick those things we want or don't want, right?
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February 6th, 2007, 03:27 PM
For accusing another person of being intolerant, you sure don't welcome views that differ from your own...
How curious.
Quoting eh1eh
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I told Rawisbetter, in another one of his inflamatory thresds, he would be more comfortable south of the Mason-Dixon Line. Bye Bye Raw. Go to your right wing, religious zealot, intollarent hillbillies. You will fit right in.
For accusing another person of being intolerant, you sure don't welcome views that differ from your own...
How curious.
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February 6th, 2007, 03:29 PM
Quoting blugoo
It's always like this with anti-Church people, they scream about the intolerance of the Church and refuse too acknowledge their own intolerance.
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For accusing another person of being intolerant, you sure don't welcome views that differ from your own...
How curious.
For accusing another person of being intolerant, you sure don't welcome views that differ from your own...
How curious.
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February 6th, 2007, 03:33 PM
Quoting m_levesque
I'm tolerant of the bible thumping crowd until they start preaching their self righteous morals to everyone...
It's always like this with anti-Church people, they scream about the intolerance of the Church and refuse too acknowledge their own intolerance.
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February 6th, 2007, 03:35 PM
Quoting m_levesque
Can't say I know too many anti-church people. I know many who disagree with the church, but I wouldn't say they're out-right anti-church.
It's always like this with anti-Church people, they scream about the intolerance of the Church and refuse too acknowledge their own intolerance.
February 6th, 2007, 03:53 PM
Quoting blugoo
It is more a case of, Canada is a free country, so if someone wants an abortion it is none of your business. Or do you want your civil rights taken from you as well comrade.
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For accusing another person of being intolerant, you sure don't welcome views that differ from your own...
How curious.
For accusing another person of being intolerant, you sure don't welcome views that differ from your own...
How curious.
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Location: Montreal, Quebec
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February 6th, 2007, 04:01 PM
Quoting eh1eh
How much is none of our business in Canada? Is it none of our business if a mother murders her day old baby because she changed her mind?
It is more a case of, Canada is a free country, so if someone wants an abortion it is none of your business. Or do you want your civil rights taken from you as well comrade.
February 6th, 2007, 04:02 PM
So if you don't want to have an abortion then don't. Just please accept that Canada is a free country. There are many things I don't beleive in but I don't impose my beleifs on others the way the zealot right does.
Again, I think the hillbillies are callin' yu.
Quoting m_levesque
K-dude. I am not anti church. There is a church across the street from my house and I tollorate it just fine. Unlike your intollerance I do more than just tollerate. I accept their fundemental rights to practice their religion and conduct themselves to those morals. I only ask that all the citizens of Canada would be accepting and not just tollerant.
It's always like this with anti-Church people, they scream about the intolerance of the Church and refuse too acknowledge their own intolerance.
So if you don't want to have an abortion then don't. Just please accept that Canada is a free country. There are many things I don't beleive in but I don't impose my beleifs on others the way the zealot right does.
Again, I think the hillbillies are callin' yu.
February 6th, 2007, 04:03 PM
Quoting m_levesque
Use your head Rene.
How much is none of our business in Canada? Is it none of our business if a mother murders her day old baby because she changed her mind?
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February 6th, 2007, 04:46 PM
Quoting DurkaDurka
So you are tolerant until someone says an Ideal you don't like?
I'm tolerant of the bible thumping crowd until they start preaching their self righteous morals to everyone...
February 6th, 2007, 04:52 PM
Quoting Zzarchov
Well I don't know. I accept your point of view but it is not mine. And the law of our free Canada says I am not required to live by your religion.
So you are tolerant until someone says an Ideal you don't like?
