Mighty Intellect
Posts: 1,978 
January 25th, 2007, 06:09 PM
Quoting Rawisbetter!
What is the point to being superior to animals, if we can't eat them?
Animals should have rights. Just because we are superior to them doesn't give us the right to do whatever we want to them. They have just as much right to be here as us.
January 25th, 2007, 06:21 PM
Quoting Zzarchov
you've got to be kidding, right? you expect poverty stricken countries to just remain abstinant? Or are you planning on springing to air drop birth control and ship in docs to perform vasectomies? Geez.
No, but i hope their parents do. If their parents or grandparents had have kept their population growth stable, ie, no more than 2 children for two parents, rather than treating children as a status symbol (ie, more is better even if you can't feed them) they wouldn't be starving, because there would be more than enough food.
We produce hundreds of times more food than we did two hundred years ago, yet there are still starving people, because people refuse to take responsibility for bringing life into this world. If you can't feed another mouth, don't create another mouth to feed.
We produce hundreds of times more food than we did two hundred years ago, yet there are still starving people, because people refuse to take responsibility for bringing life into this world. If you can't feed another mouth, don't create another mouth to feed.
January 25th, 2007, 06:29 PM
Quoting Zzarchov
It's not quite that simple. Third world countries without social security have no way to care for the elderly. Who do you think takes care of these people when they are old and sick. Also, much of the malnourishment results from droughts. There is no way they can know what future conditions will be like.
No, but i hope their parents do. If their parents or grandparents had have kept their population growth stable, ie, no more than 2 children for two parents, rather than treating children as a status symbol (ie, more is better even if you can't feed them) they wouldn't be starving, because there would be more than enough food.
We produce hundreds of times more food than we did two hundred years ago, yet there are still starving people, because people refuse to take responsibility for bringing life into this world. If you can't feed another mouth, don't create another mouth to feed.
We produce hundreds of times more food than we did two hundred years ago, yet there are still starving people, because people refuse to take responsibility for bringing life into this world. If you can't feed another mouth, don't create another mouth to feed.
Genius
Posts: 929
January 25th, 2007, 06:33 PM
Quoting Rawisbetter!
If a lion eats a zebra, who do you side with....the zebra that has a right to live, or the lion which must eat the zebra in order to live?
Animals should have rights. Just because we are superior to them doesn't give us the right to do whatever we want to them. They have just as much right to be here as us.
Hawkings former plumber
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Location: RR1 Distopia 666 Discordia Drive Apt 911
January 25th, 2007, 08:31 PM
Finger lickin good my ass.
Quoting hermanntrude
Much of that chunk of KFC was never alive and if that junk wasn't on the pseudo-chicken it wouldn't taste like chicken it would taste like the white stuff they're stuffed with. If a chicken is what it eats then KFC ain't in the food bizz.
rights are a human notion. and while i consider them very worthwhile, i can't really apply them to a chicken or a cow. although i do think they're worth some respect. it's well worth remembered when u stuff a peice of KFC into your greasy gob, that it was once alive and that you should be grateful for the nourishment as it's a luxury.
Finger lickin good my ass.
Knows Too Much
Posts: 2,100
Location: Backwater, Ontario.
Location: Backwater, Ontario.
January 25th, 2007, 08:49 PM
We usta put up ar own hogs come fall. .22 cal bullet tween th'eyes, throat slit, bled out, inta a vat a boilin watr, scraped, gutted, in haff a our or less. After th bullet it din no nothin else, an it ayt good all yeer, wuz kep kleen and fed grayn, got ta breed (which wuz mor'n ah ken sae fer me at thet tam). An then we got t'eet em.
So ifn ya wants t'eet grass n that, go hed, Ah'll eet me sum pigs n cows n chickens n thet. eh.
Jes don lett meorpaw ketch ya keepin annimules in dirtee kondishuns, in small kages n thet, er we'll hafta point the .22 et you. har har.
We usta put up ar own hogs come fall. .22 cal bullet tween th'eyes, throat slit, bled out, inta a vat a boilin watr, scraped, gutted, in haff a our or less. After th bullet it din no nothin else, an it ayt good all yeer, wuz kep kleen and fed grayn, got ta breed (which wuz mor'n ah ken sae fer me at thet tam). An then we got t'eet em.
So ifn ya wants t'eet grass n that, go hed, Ah'll eet me sum pigs n cows n chickens n thet. eh.
Jes don lett meorpaw ketch ya keepin annimules in dirtee kondishuns, in small kages n thet, er we'll hafta point the .22 et you. har har.
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Les
Posts: 5,612
Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
January 25th, 2007, 10:30 PM
Quoting Zzarchov
Ah, but some deity said "go forth and multiply". so people did and did and did and did and did and .......
No, but i hope their parents do. If their parents or grandparents had have kept their population growth stable, ie, no more than 2 children for two parents, rather than treating children as a status symbol (ie, more is better even if you can't feed them) they wouldn't be starving, because there would be more than enough food.
We produce hundreds of times more food than we did two hundred years ago, yet there are still starving people, because people refuse to take responsibility for bringing life into this world. If you can't feed another mouth, don't create another mouth to feed.
We produce hundreds of times more food than we did two hundred years ago, yet there are still starving people, because people refuse to take responsibility for bringing life into this world. If you can't feed another mouth, don't create another mouth to feed.
Les
Posts: 5,612
Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
Location: 50 acres in Kootenays BC
January 25th, 2007, 10:33 PM
Quoting Tonington
It is simple. It is procreation. Genetically engineered in us. People breed more kids in times of adversity so that one or two might survive.
It's not quite that simple. Third world countries without social security have no way to care for the elderly. Who do you think takes care of these people when they are old and sick. Also, much of the malnourishment results from droughts. There is no way they can know what future conditions will be like.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,604
January 25th, 2007, 10:44 PM
Many hands make light work.
Male superiority among tribal cultures frequently demands many attempts to conceive a male child to be groomed into positions of wealth and power. Agrarian cultures benefit from many more youngsters who can harvest crops. Technologically advanced societies curtail and dramatically reduce their birthrates. Something about having more than you need for yourself but keeping it all in the family...
Many hands make light work.
Male superiority among tribal cultures frequently demands many attempts to conceive a male child to be groomed into positions of wealth and power. Agrarian cultures benefit from many more youngsters who can harvest crops. Technologically advanced societies curtail and dramatically reduce their birthrates. Something about having more than you need for yourself but keeping it all in the family...
Newbie
Posts: 6
September 2nd, 2007, 01:38 PM
Quoting karrie
Precisely. I accept that we are high on the food chain (and oh my god do I love a rare tenderloin); but as a civilised society that is capable of the technology and luxuries we are afforded, we have the ability and obligation to ensure farm animals are treated in a humane manner at all times, including the manner in which they are slaughtered.
meat is great. I eat it for health reasons, enjoyment, and variety. Eating animal protein, unless you have a medical condition, is the best way to keep your diet balanced. I do think however, that ethical treatment of food animals is something that bears addressing. Just because I'm going to eat it, doesn't mean it deserves to be treated cruelly.
Chief Mogrifier
Posts: 8,795
September 2nd, 2007, 02:04 PM
In northern B.C. there is a bird we called a Fool Hen.(also called the Spruce Grouse) I guess they were some kind of Grouse. People used to say that if there were 8 of these birds in a tree you could shoot seven of them before the last one would fly away. They were never quite that dumb for me but I have often shot two or three before the rest flew off. The trick was getting close enough to get head shots. Even a 22 long rifle through the body wrecked a lot of meat.
Quoting Colpy
Colpy
the poor guy that started this thread......I imagine he wanted a debate on the sinfulness of consuming our fured and feathered brethern.......instead he gets a discussion of which animal is more fun to kill.........and our favourite ways to devour flesh.
I love it!
PETA People Eating Tasty Animals
I love it!
PETA People Eating Tasty Animals
In northern B.C. there is a bird we called a Fool Hen.(also called the Spruce Grouse) I guess they were some kind of Grouse. People used to say that if there were 8 of these birds in a tree you could shoot seven of them before the last one would fly away. They were never quite that dumb for me but I have often shot two or three before the rest flew off. The trick was getting close enough to get head shots. Even a 22 long rifle through the body wrecked a lot of meat.
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,515
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
September 2nd, 2007, 02:12 PM
Ever hunt with a car? Ruffled grouse don't fly until it's time to die. Usually, it's headfirst into the bumper - and the breast is about the only good meat on 'em.
Partridge - the edible roadkill....
Wolf
Ever hunt with a car? Ruffled grouse don't fly until it's time to die. Usually, it's headfirst into the bumper - and the breast is about the only good meat on 'em.
Partridge - the edible roadkill....
Wolf
