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January 24th, 2007, 12:42 AM

Quoting Colpy
The only real "free range" animals are the truely wild...........anyone for a good deer hunt?
You have a point, but, it's still better to have a chicken running in a pen, rather than kept all of its life in a 1 foot square box. I'd still rather eat grouse though.
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January 24th, 2007, 01:02 AM

I'm just a regular city person, love meat from my local "safeway", tastes great, don't like wild game
at all, sometimes I will cook grouse for my husband, and every time he goes hunting I cheer for the
game, and when I see him drive in without anything, I breath a sigh of relief. I like cooking a salmon
if it's the same day as it was caught, otherwise, forget it, and never after it's been frozen.
I love chicken. I make large quantities of "spaghetti sauce" from the recipe my mother in law
gave me, which is from Rome, and it has pork,stew beef, and ground beef, and it's the best.
Don't like roadkill.
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January 24th, 2007, 01:07 AM

I eat meat because:

a) I like it.
b) it's good for me, in the proper amounts
c) it's perfectly natural. Humans are omnivores, evolution has made us that way
d) it's pretty difficult to eat a balanced diet without it. The only things that make a truly vegan diet possible are modern scientific knowledge about dietary requirements, and the agricultural and transportation systems (another product of modern science) that enable us to grow and distribute the many varieties of beans and assorted tasteless and revolting crap like tofu required to eat a balanced, meatless diet.

As for "ethical" considerations... well, you can't eat anything without killing it. I find it hard to care. I'd agree it's incumbent upon us not to make our food animals suffer unduly (and not just because it makes them taste bad), but they have no rights except what we decide to give them. Rights are entirely a human invention, and they're closely tied to responsibilities. I have no clue how we can give our food animals responsibilities commensurate with the "rights" some people think they have. You think a weasel cares about the right to life of the chicken it kills? Nature's not kind and cares nothing for rights, it cares only about reproductive success. It's a serious philosophical error to project our values onto it. So I will cheerfully contine to eat beef and pork and chicken and fish, and I will cheerfully continue to shoot ducks and geese and deer and catch and kill fish for my consumption.

I wouldn't kill them if I didn't intend to eat them. I wouldn't kill the carrots and potatoes in my garden either, if I didn't intend to eat them.
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January 24th, 2007, 01:13 AM

I eat meat, because I am a predator, and predators are supposed to eat meat
Besides, it's delicious. besides, I have a lot of allergies, so I can't eat all those soy foods that replace meat. I can die if I eat one tiny piece.
I heard a joke sometime ago - vegetatrians are not the people who love animals, they are the people who hate plants.
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January 24th, 2007, 01:22 AM

Quoting Vereya
I heard a joke sometime ago - vegetatrians are not the people who love animals, they are the people who hate plants.
I posted these lyrics earlier, but on this site is the whole song "carrot juice is murder" by The Arrogant Worms. The band is Canadian, from Alberta I believe. They have some really hilarious material. Just click the link, and on the web page you can pick how you want to hear the song.

http://www.eagle-wing.net/FunStuff/G...rotJuice.shtml
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January 24th, 2007, 01:35 AM

Quoting Rawisbetter!
I would like to know why.
How else could a burgervore survive?
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January 24th, 2007, 01:50 AM

[quote=Kreskin;772410]How else could a burgervore survive

Where do you get the best burgers?

for the price - quality foods - - - double whopper with cheese, light on the sauce
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January 24th, 2007, 01:54 AM

Quoting talloola
Quoting Kreskin
How else could a burgervore survive
Where do you get the best burgers?

for the price - quality foods - - - double whopper with cheese, light on the sauce
I haven't tried it. Will give it a whirl. I have an addiction to the White Spot Double Double (not the one on the ferries).
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January 24th, 2007, 02:04 AM

Quoting karrie
You have a point, but, it's still better to have a chicken running in a pen, rather than kept all of its life in a 1 foot square box. I'd still rather eat grouse though.
Hey!

I was just using deer hunting as an example........my all-time favourite hunting is for ruffed grouse.
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January 24th, 2007, 02:08 AM

Quoting Kreskin
I haven't tried it. Will give it a whirl. I have an addiction to the White Spot Double Double (not the one on the ferries).
I would love a double whopper/cheese/light sauce with white spot fries, white spot burgers are ripoff
on meat, we had white spot (super burger ?) I think, but they are too expensive.
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January 24th, 2007, 02:10 AM

Quoting talloola
I would love a double whopper/cheese/light sauce with white spot fries, white spot burgers are ripoff
on meat, we had white spot (super burger ?) I think, but they are too expensive.
It is expensive. Triple O Sauce is like heroin.
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January 24th, 2007, 02:24 AM

Quoting Kreskin
It is expensive. Triple O Sauce is like heroin.
I have stopped using sauces in burgers, (maybe a teeny bit), so i'm not addicted to the
triple O anymore, it's a victory, try it. I finally just got irritated with White Spot, as I
think they just use their "name" to sell, and the amount of meat in the burger is criminal.

At quality foods, you can stand there and request whatever you want in the burger, and
watch them make it. They have them as a special sometimes, and you get a good burger,
with fries for about $4.50, they make their own patties instore.
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January 24th, 2007, 02:46 AM

the poor guy that started this thread......I imagine he wanted a debate on the sinfulness of consuming our fured and feathered brethern.......instead he gets a discussion of which animal is more fun to kill.........and our favourite ways to devour flesh.

I love it!

PETA People Eating Tasty Animals

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January 24th, 2007, 06:20 AM

Quoting Colpy
the poor guy that started this thread......I imagine he wanted a debate on the sinfulness of consuming our fured and feathered brethern.......instead he gets a discussion of which animal is more fun to kill.........and our favourite ways to devour flesh.

I love it!

PETA People Eating Tasty Animals

Mmmmm. Baby sheep, a nice bleeding medium rare steak... I could go on. Winter is the worst as it makes BBQ a little difficult in the cold. When it gets up to 0C out comes the meat and on goes the grill.
I love that PETA version you've got there Colpy.
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January 24th, 2007, 06:47 AM

Quoting Dexter Sinister
I eat meat because:

Nature's not kind and cares nothing for rights, it cares only about reproductive success. It's a serious philosophical error to project our values onto it. So I will cheerfully contine to eat beef and pork and chicken and fish, and I will cheerfully continue to shoot ducks and geese and deer and catch and kill fish for my consumption.

I wouldn't kill them if I didn't intend to eat them. I wouldn't kill the carrots and potatoes in my garden either, if I didn't intend to eat them.
OK Dexter, you kill animals to eat them... that's fine.

But animals have no rights? We shouldn't even care about the the way they are treated? They do have a clear potential to suffer, maybe not fish, but at least cows and pigs... that seems pretty evident right?
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January 24th, 2007, 07:32 AM

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I would like to know why.
Indirectly because man evolved from a semi-scavenger stealing what he could from Mr. Saretooth's kill. And when the Ice age came, it helped him survive where little vegetation was. Eventually his digestive tract evolved to handle meat and vegetables and that is how we're made today.

Directly because has one poster said, nothing beats a 1inch thick sirloin Q'd to perfection.!!!!!!!


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January 24th, 2007, 07:41 AM

Quoting s_lone
But animals have no rights?
Right, except, as I said, what we choose to give them.
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We shouldn't even care about the the way they are treated?
I didn't say that, or even hint at it. I said, among other things, "it's incumbent upon us not to make our food animals suffer unduly." Which is a long way ahead of the way nature arranges things. Most animals in the wild die rather unpleasantly from predation or disease.
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January 24th, 2007, 09:34 AM

Quoting s_lone
OK Dexter, you kill animals to eat them... that's fine.

But animals have no rights? We shouldn't even care about the the way they are treated? They do have a clear potential to suffer, maybe not fish, but at least cows and pigs... that seems pretty evident right?

animals have rights? uhm,, hello, theyre animals, not people. and most of them are food. some people take animals too far and try to pretend theyre little people. i mean, yeah, dont mistreat them, but dont pretend theyre equal to people either.
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