Electoral Member
Posts: 226 
Location: Edmonton
Location: Edmonton
January 21st, 2006, 01:07 PM
You are saying Alberta may get ripped off by the Feds but it's okay if the Multi Nationals pick up 75 percent of the revenue from the oil (after expences) and that is just fine?
I take the postion that if the Alberta Conservatives cannot deliver a better return to Albertans than the lowest royalities in the world then, it's up to Ottawa to step in and take some of the profits for the benefit of all Canadains.
Just think, the remaining 25% covers all the construction, legal, travel; all the costs real and unreal (inflated costs running wild) still remain on that 25%
These are huge bucks at play here and Albertans are not getting them. I don't understand where your paranoia comes from.
Oh, I am told by the oil comanies that about 8 percent of the 75 percent gets passed onto stock holders.
We are being paid token quiet money!
You are saying Alberta may get ripped off by the Feds but it's okay if the Multi Nationals pick up 75 percent of the revenue from the oil (after expences) and that is just fine?
I take the postion that if the Alberta Conservatives cannot deliver a better return to Albertans than the lowest royalities in the world then, it's up to Ottawa to step in and take some of the profits for the benefit of all Canadains.
Just think, the remaining 25% covers all the construction, legal, travel; all the costs real and unreal (inflated costs running wild) still remain on that 25%
These are huge bucks at play here and Albertans are not getting them. I don't understand where your paranoia comes from.
Oh, I am told by the oil comanies that about 8 percent of the 75 percent gets passed onto stock holders.
We are being paid token quiet money!
Newbie
Posts: 15
January 23rd, 2006, 04:20 PM
I am disturbed at how Alberta has hijacked the word "West" and "Western" for their own purposes, does it make them appear bigger than they really are? I have lived in all 4 Western provinces and even the U.S. for 5 years and I'll admit to being a proud Canadian foremost. I currently live in Calgary and believe the views and opinions billowing out of Alberta do not resonate in Manitoba, B.C. or Central and Eastern Saskatchewan the "relics" of "Western Canada". It paints with a very broad brush to say they (with the loudest voice) are expressing the views and aspirations of the "West" in social, political or economic arenas. I'll admit Alberta is a different kind of place ....but not in such a good way. The predominant attitude here as I see it and is aptly demonstrated on all of these forums is selfishness. The "Heart of the New West" is all for promoting themselves and only themselves. Greed, arrogance and the pursuit of the dollar is parmount, a sense of community is virtually non-existant and the expression of socially ignorant views is hardily applauded. They claim to be "independent minded" but that really just means that they don't give a f*ck about their neighbors or anyone else for that matter. Is it any wonder they do not share a "sense of community" with the rest of Canada?
I am disturbed at how Alberta has hijacked the word "West" and "Western" for their own purposes, does it make them appear bigger than they really are? I have lived in all 4 Western provinces and even the U.S. for 5 years and I'll admit to being a proud Canadian foremost. I currently live in Calgary and believe the views and opinions billowing out of Alberta do not resonate in Manitoba, B.C. or Central and Eastern Saskatchewan the "relics" of "Western Canada". It paints with a very broad brush to say they (with the loudest voice) are expressing the views and aspirations of the "West" in social, political or economic arenas. I'll admit Alberta is a different kind of place ....but not in such a good way. The predominant attitude here as I see it and is aptly demonstrated on all of these forums is selfishness. The "Heart of the New West" is all for promoting themselves and only themselves. Greed, arrogance and the pursuit of the dollar is parmount, a sense of community is virtually non-existant and the expression of socially ignorant views is hardily applauded. They claim to be "independent minded" but that really just means that they don't give a f*ck about their neighbors or anyone else for that matter. Is it any wonder they do not share a "sense of community" with the rest of Canada?
Ponderous Intellect
Posts: 4,465
Videos: 1
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Videos: 1
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
January 30th, 2006, 09:08 PM
An interesting assertion, Gerald24; what do you mean by "welfare bums"?
On a related note, British Columbia is arguably one of the most progressive provinces, in terms of its economy and industry, in Canada; under our current Liberal Government of British Columbia, we could hardly be considered a "welfare" province — the Honourable Premier is not one of our most progressive in history, in terms of social and welfare programs.
An interesting assertion, Gerald24; what do you mean by "welfare bums"?
On a related note, British Columbia is arguably one of the most progressive provinces, in terms of its economy and industry, in Canada; under our current Liberal Government of British Columbia, we could hardly be considered a "welfare" province — the Honourable Premier is not one of our most progressive in history, in terms of social and welfare programs.
Member
Posts: 168
Location: Wetaskiwin, AB
Location: Wetaskiwin, AB
February 2nd, 2006, 01:57 PM
I don't get what the problem is for wanting what's ours. It's only luck that there is oil here, and it's ours. Just like it's only blind luck that Ontario is next door to the industrial heartland of the United States, or that BC is the only province with Pacific coastline.
I don't get what the problem is for wanting what's ours. It's only luck that there is oil here, and it's ours. Just like it's only blind luck that Ontario is next door to the industrial heartland of the United States, or that BC is the only province with Pacific coastline.
