the clan of the claw
Posts: 1,976 
June 10th, 2006, 10:48 AM
here is this weeks vista goods via wininformant:
I personally do not like it, and consider it now far too "old school". With virtualization and multicore processors, the future will be running virtual OS's for all purposes.
I don't believe linux is a mainstream desktop OS, yet (anyway). The average user (and I stress average) has been increasingly "dumbed down" over time. When you realize many people still are overwhelmed installing simple windows software you realize linux is not in any position to make real gains on the desktop. Personally, I would like to see Apple double its marketshare, and BSD become more mainstream, so that there would be three "mainstream" platforms. With MS faultering and Apple doing well, Apple might grow but I doubt we will see any real growth from anything else.
here is this weeks vista goods via wininformant:
Quote:
my comments on dual booting:
Microsoft Concocts Yet Another Reason to Love Windows Genuine Advantage
I was sitting around the other day listing all the things I just love about Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA), Microsoft's antipiracy tool. But then I discovered a hidden WGA feature that I'd never heard about, mostly because Microsoft had kept it a secret. It turns out that WGA actually connects to a Microsoft server every time you boot your PC. That's right. It's spyware. Microsoft actually installs a tool on your PC that does nothing more than check to ensure that you're not pirating Windows, and it does this check every single day and then sends the results back to Microsoft. This insidious behavior was first discovered by Lauren Weinstein, the co-founder of People For Internet Responsibility, and it's touched off a debate about disclosure and privacy. But seriously, this situation is ridiculous. It's bad enough that we're treated like pirates. Do we have to be spied on every single day as well?
Users Freaking Over Vista Battery Life Issues
There's a big debate going on right now about Vista and battery life, or to put it more correctly, Vista and the lack of battery life. Turns out Vista gets a lot less battery life than does XP on identical notebooks, and many users are pointing to Vista's hardware-accelerated 3-D UI as the culprit. I have no doubts about that assertion, but I'd also caution people to remember that Vista is still a beta, and performance work is still to come. Microsoft says it'll improve Vista's battery life, but I have to think that its battery life will never be as good as that of XP, unless you turn off Aero Glass. And at that point, why bother running Vista?
I was sitting around the other day listing all the things I just love about Windows Genuine Advantage (WGA), Microsoft's antipiracy tool. But then I discovered a hidden WGA feature that I'd never heard about, mostly because Microsoft had kept it a secret. It turns out that WGA actually connects to a Microsoft server every time you boot your PC. That's right. It's spyware. Microsoft actually installs a tool on your PC that does nothing more than check to ensure that you're not pirating Windows, and it does this check every single day and then sends the results back to Microsoft. This insidious behavior was first discovered by Lauren Weinstein, the co-founder of People For Internet Responsibility, and it's touched off a debate about disclosure and privacy. But seriously, this situation is ridiculous. It's bad enough that we're treated like pirates. Do we have to be spied on every single day as well?
Users Freaking Over Vista Battery Life Issues
There's a big debate going on right now about Vista and battery life, or to put it more correctly, Vista and the lack of battery life. Turns out Vista gets a lot less battery life than does XP on identical notebooks, and many users are pointing to Vista's hardware-accelerated 3-D UI as the culprit. I have no doubts about that assertion, but I'd also caution people to remember that Vista is still a beta, and performance work is still to come. Microsoft says it'll improve Vista's battery life, but I have to think that its battery life will never be as good as that of XP, unless you turn off Aero Glass. And at that point, why bother running Vista?
I personally do not like it, and consider it now far too "old school". With virtualization and multicore processors, the future will be running virtual OS's for all purposes.
I don't believe linux is a mainstream desktop OS, yet (anyway). The average user (and I stress average) has been increasingly "dumbed down" over time. When you realize many people still are overwhelmed installing simple windows software you realize linux is not in any position to make real gains on the desktop. Personally, I would like to see Apple double its marketshare, and BSD become more mainstream, so that there would be three "mainstream" platforms. With MS faultering and Apple doing well, Apple might grow but I doubt we will see any real growth from anything else.
Ponderous Intellect
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June 10th, 2006, 11:25 AM
I would suggest that Microsoft® has every right to ensure that their software is legitimate. As per the end-user license agreement, when using Windows® XP, or any other Microsoft operating system for that matter, one agrees that one does not own that software. Rather, one is licensed to use that software.
I would suggest that Microsoft® has every right to ensure that their software is legitimate. As per the end-user license agreement, when using Windows® XP, or any other Microsoft operating system for that matter, one agrees that one does not own that software. Rather, one is licensed to use that software.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 583
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Location: Calgary, Alberta
June 10th, 2006, 12:02 PM
Quoting
You know what the worst of it is? Those dickheads aren't even going to give us a free copy like they did with XP and Office. A-holes. Between that and them still having my 360, I'm really getting mad at MS.
Both of my home computers can easily handle vista - it's my hobby so it's where I spend my bucks 
, but I have no intention of buying it as long as xp can do what I need.
, but I have no intention of buying it as long as xp can do what I need.
Newbie
Posts: 37
June 10th, 2006, 12:38 PM
Your Info is incorrect.
Hardware requirements
Minimum Requirements (Vista-Capable PCs):
800 MHz Intel-compatible processor
512MB of RAM
DirectX 9.0-Capable Graphics Processor
20GB HD
Recommended Requirements (Premium-Ready PCs):
1 GHz Intel-compatible processor
1GB RAM
DirectX 9.0-Capable Graphics Processor, with 128MB graphics memory. (64MB of graphics memory to support a single monitor less than 1,310,720 pixels [no more than 1440x900]; 128MB of graphics memory to support a single monitor at resolutions from 1,310,720 to 2,304,000 pixels [no more than 1920x1200]; 256MB of graphics memory to support a single monitor at resolutions higher than 2,304,000 pixels [more than 1920x1200]).
40GB HD with at least 15GB "free space"
Ram is really cheap now and most shoud have at least 1 gb of RAM by now.
Also Vista has a few aces up its sleeve to enhance its performance. Say hello to Superfetch, ReadyBoost, and ReadyDrive.
"SuperFetch
SuperFetch essentially allows you to use USB 2.0 flash memory devices as a cache. Unfortunately, I was unable to get SuperFetch to work. I have both a 1GB USB 2.0 flash device and a 256MB USB 2.0 flash drive, but there wasn't anything I could find that would allow me to enable it or tell me that SuperFetch was indeed enabled.
ReadyBoost
ReadyBoost allows Vista to use your Flash Devices as some sort of Pagefile. I was able to get ReadyBoost to work after some digging. The first time I inserted my flash device I saw the option in the AutoPlay dialog. But on subsequent insertions it, never again gave me the option on AutoPlay. Nonetheless, digging around on the properties of the device I found the ReadyBoost tab."
Internet Explorer 7+
Internet Explorer 7+ is the latest version of Internet Browser from Microsoft, and only Vista will get 7+. With this version of IE, Microsoft tries to catch up to the Firefoxes and Operas of the world with tabbed browsing and enhanced CSS support. With Vista IE7+ gains extra security features over its XP cousin. The main security feature that IE7+ for Vista has is "Protected Mode." This mode allows IE to run in a "vacuum," where the only thing it can touch is its own temporary directories. In Vista, Internet Explorer 7+ is no longer "hard wired" to the rest of the OS.
Quoting
Microsoft is apparently set to release its long awaited and continuously delayed operating system, Windows Vista, in January 2007. This week they released the system requirements and most people are either going to have to upgrade their current PC or buy a new one.
Here are the minimum system requirements for Windows Vista.
-A 1 GHz processor
-1 GB of RAM
-A 128 MB video card
-40 GB of hard drive space for installation plus 15 GB free hard drive space
-A DVD drive
-Internet Access
These requirements are so you can just run the basic features of the operating system. You will need better computer hardware if you want Windows Vista to run at its best. The minimum price for a Windows Vista Capable PC is about $1000. Looks like you PC users are about to get *censored*.
Here are the minimum system requirements for Windows Vista.
-A 1 GHz processor
-1 GB of RAM
-A 128 MB video card
-40 GB of hard drive space for installation plus 15 GB free hard drive space
-A DVD drive
-Internet Access
These requirements are so you can just run the basic features of the operating system. You will need better computer hardware if you want Windows Vista to run at its best. The minimum price for a Windows Vista Capable PC is about $1000. Looks like you PC users are about to get *censored*.
Your Info is incorrect.
Hardware requirements
Minimum Requirements (Vista-Capable PCs):
800 MHz Intel-compatible processor
512MB of RAM
DirectX 9.0-Capable Graphics Processor
20GB HD
Recommended Requirements (Premium-Ready PCs):
1 GHz Intel-compatible processor
1GB RAM
DirectX 9.0-Capable Graphics Processor, with 128MB graphics memory. (64MB of graphics memory to support a single monitor less than 1,310,720 pixels [no more than 1440x900]; 128MB of graphics memory to support a single monitor at resolutions from 1,310,720 to 2,304,000 pixels [no more than 1920x1200]; 256MB of graphics memory to support a single monitor at resolutions higher than 2,304,000 pixels [more than 1920x1200]).
40GB HD with at least 15GB "free space"
Ram is really cheap now and most shoud have at least 1 gb of RAM by now.
Also Vista has a few aces up its sleeve to enhance its performance. Say hello to Superfetch, ReadyBoost, and ReadyDrive.
"SuperFetch
SuperFetch essentially allows you to use USB 2.0 flash memory devices as a cache. Unfortunately, I was unable to get SuperFetch to work. I have both a 1GB USB 2.0 flash device and a 256MB USB 2.0 flash drive, but there wasn't anything I could find that would allow me to enable it or tell me that SuperFetch was indeed enabled.
ReadyBoost
ReadyBoost allows Vista to use your Flash Devices as some sort of Pagefile. I was able to get ReadyBoost to work after some digging. The first time I inserted my flash device I saw the option in the AutoPlay dialog. But on subsequent insertions it, never again gave me the option on AutoPlay. Nonetheless, digging around on the properties of the device I found the ReadyBoost tab."
Internet Explorer 7+
Internet Explorer 7+ is the latest version of Internet Browser from Microsoft, and only Vista will get 7+. With this version of IE, Microsoft tries to catch up to the Firefoxes and Operas of the world with tabbed browsing and enhanced CSS support. With Vista IE7+ gains extra security features over its XP cousin. The main security feature that IE7+ for Vista has is "Protected Mode." This mode allows IE to run in a "vacuum," where the only thing it can touch is its own temporary directories. In Vista, Internet Explorer 7+ is no longer "hard wired" to the rest of the OS.
Newbie
Posts: 37
June 10th, 2006, 02:03 PM
"1. Security, security, security: Windows XP Service Pack 2 patched a lot of holes, but Vista takes security to the next level. There are literally too many changes to list here, from the bidirectional software firewall that monitors inbound and outbound traffic to Windows Services Hardening, which prevents obscure background processes from being hijacked and changing your system. There's also full-disk encryption, which prevents thieves from accessing your data, even if they steal the PC out from under your nose.
Perhaps most crucial (and least sexy) is the long-overdue User Account Protection, which invokes administrator privileges as needed, such as during driver updates or software installations. UAP makes it much more convenient for users to operate Vista with limited rights (meaning the system won't let them do certain things, like load software, without clearance from an administrator). This in turn limits the ability of malware to hose your system.
2. Internet Explorer 7: IE gets a much-needed, Firefox-inspired makeover, complete with tabbed pages and better privacy management. There's also the color-coded Address Bar that lets you know if a page is secured by a digital key, or, thanks to new antiphishing features, if it's a phony Web site just looking to steal information about you.
These features will all be available for Windows XP users who download IE7. But Vista users get an important extra level of protection: IE7 on Vista will run in what Microsoft calls "protected mode"--a limited-rights mode that prevents third-party code from reaching your system. It's about darn time.
3. Righteous eye candy: For the first time, Microsoft is building high-end graphics effects into Windows. The touted Aero Glass interface features visually engaging 3D rendering, animation, and transparencies. Translucent icons, program windows, and other elements not only look cool, they add depth and context to the interface. For example, hover your cursor over minimized programs that rest on the taskbar and you'll be able to see real-time previews of what's running in each window without opening them full-screen. Now you can see what's going on behind the scenes, albeit at a cost: You need powerful graphics hardware and a robust system to manage all the effects.
4. Desktop search: Microsoft has been getting its lunch handed to it by Google and Yahoo on the desktop, but Vista could change all that. The new OS tightly integrates instant desktop search, doing away with the glacially slow and inadequate search function in XP. Powerful indexing and user-assignable metadata make searching for all kinds of data--including files, e-mails, and Web content--a lot easier. And if you're running Vista on a Windows Longhorn network, you can perform searches across the network to other PCs.
5. Better updates: Vista does away with using Internet Explorer to access Windows Update, instead utilizing a new application to handle the chore of keeping your system patched and up-to-date. The result is quicker response and a more tightly streamlined process. The update-tracking mechanism, for instance, is much quicker to display information about your installation. And now key components, such as the Windows Defender antispyware module, get their updates through this central point. Like other housekeeping features, a better Windows Update isn't a gee-whiz upgrade, but it should make it easier--and more pleasant--to keep your PC secure.
6. More media: Over the years, one of the key reasons to upgrade versions of Windows has been the free stuff Gates and Company toss into the new OS, and Vista is no exception. Windows Media Player (perhaps my least favorite application of all time) gets a welcome update that turns the once-bloated player into an effective MP3 library. The Windows Photo Gallery finally adds competent photo-library-management functionality to Windows, so you can organize photos; apply metatags, titles, and ratings; and do things like light editing and printing. The DVD Maker application, which was still very rough when I looked at it, promises to add moviemaking capabilities--along the lines of Movie Maker--to the operating system. There are even some nice new games tucked into the bundle.
7. Parental controls: Families, schools, and libraries will appreciate the tuned-up parental controls, which let you limit access in a variety of ways. Web filtering can block specific sites, screen out objectionable content by selected type, and lock out file downloads. You can also restrict each account's access by time of day or day of the week. As a dad, I can tell you this will be great for keeping kids off the PC while you're at work, for instance. You can even block access to games based on their Entertainment Software Rating Board ratings.
8. Better backups: When Windows 95 first came out, the typical hard disk was, maybe, 300MB in size. Today, desktops routinely ship with 300GB or 400GB hard drives. And yet, the built-in data-backup software in Windows has changed little in the past decade. Windows Vista boasts a much-improved backup program that should help users avoid wholesale digital meltdowns. Microsoft also tweaked the useful System Restore feature--which takes snapshots of your system state so you can recover from a nasty infection or botched software installation.
9. Peer-to-peer collaboration: The Windows Collaboration module uses peer-to-peer technology to let Vista users work together in a shared workspace. You can form ad hoc workgroups and then jointly work on documents, present applications, and pass messages. You can even post "handouts" for others to review.
10. Quick setup: Beta code alert: There are some Vista features I hope dearly for even though they haven't been built yet. This is one of them. Jim Allchin, Microsoft's co-president, says that Windows Vista boasts a re-engineered install routine, which will slash setup times from about an hour to as little as 15 minutes. Hurray! The new code wasn't in the beta version of Vista that Microsoft sent to me--my aging rig took well over an hour to set up--so I'll believe it when I see it. Still, any improvement in this area is welcome."
Looks good but I gut most of the bloatware for better performance.
Still Windows is the best for hacking up and getting the best performance.Bravo Microsoft
"1. Security, security, security: Windows XP Service Pack 2 patched a lot of holes, but Vista takes security to the next level. There are literally too many changes to list here, from the bidirectional software firewall that monitors inbound and outbound traffic to Windows Services Hardening, which prevents obscure background processes from being hijacked and changing your system. There's also full-disk encryption, which prevents thieves from accessing your data, even if they steal the PC out from under your nose.
Perhaps most crucial (and least sexy) is the long-overdue User Account Protection, which invokes administrator privileges as needed, such as during driver updates or software installations. UAP makes it much more convenient for users to operate Vista with limited rights (meaning the system won't let them do certain things, like load software, without clearance from an administrator). This in turn limits the ability of malware to hose your system.
2. Internet Explorer 7: IE gets a much-needed, Firefox-inspired makeover, complete with tabbed pages and better privacy management. There's also the color-coded Address Bar that lets you know if a page is secured by a digital key, or, thanks to new antiphishing features, if it's a phony Web site just looking to steal information about you.
These features will all be available for Windows XP users who download IE7. But Vista users get an important extra level of protection: IE7 on Vista will run in what Microsoft calls "protected mode"--a limited-rights mode that prevents third-party code from reaching your system. It's about darn time.
3. Righteous eye candy: For the first time, Microsoft is building high-end graphics effects into Windows. The touted Aero Glass interface features visually engaging 3D rendering, animation, and transparencies. Translucent icons, program windows, and other elements not only look cool, they add depth and context to the interface. For example, hover your cursor over minimized programs that rest on the taskbar and you'll be able to see real-time previews of what's running in each window without opening them full-screen. Now you can see what's going on behind the scenes, albeit at a cost: You need powerful graphics hardware and a robust system to manage all the effects.
4. Desktop search: Microsoft has been getting its lunch handed to it by Google and Yahoo on the desktop, but Vista could change all that. The new OS tightly integrates instant desktop search, doing away with the glacially slow and inadequate search function in XP. Powerful indexing and user-assignable metadata make searching for all kinds of data--including files, e-mails, and Web content--a lot easier. And if you're running Vista on a Windows Longhorn network, you can perform searches across the network to other PCs.
5. Better updates: Vista does away with using Internet Explorer to access Windows Update, instead utilizing a new application to handle the chore of keeping your system patched and up-to-date. The result is quicker response and a more tightly streamlined process. The update-tracking mechanism, for instance, is much quicker to display information about your installation. And now key components, such as the Windows Defender antispyware module, get their updates through this central point. Like other housekeeping features, a better Windows Update isn't a gee-whiz upgrade, but it should make it easier--and more pleasant--to keep your PC secure.
6. More media: Over the years, one of the key reasons to upgrade versions of Windows has been the free stuff Gates and Company toss into the new OS, and Vista is no exception. Windows Media Player (perhaps my least favorite application of all time) gets a welcome update that turns the once-bloated player into an effective MP3 library. The Windows Photo Gallery finally adds competent photo-library-management functionality to Windows, so you can organize photos; apply metatags, titles, and ratings; and do things like light editing and printing. The DVD Maker application, which was still very rough when I looked at it, promises to add moviemaking capabilities--along the lines of Movie Maker--to the operating system. There are even some nice new games tucked into the bundle.
7. Parental controls: Families, schools, and libraries will appreciate the tuned-up parental controls, which let you limit access in a variety of ways. Web filtering can block specific sites, screen out objectionable content by selected type, and lock out file downloads. You can also restrict each account's access by time of day or day of the week. As a dad, I can tell you this will be great for keeping kids off the PC while you're at work, for instance. You can even block access to games based on their Entertainment Software Rating Board ratings.
8. Better backups: When Windows 95 first came out, the typical hard disk was, maybe, 300MB in size. Today, desktops routinely ship with 300GB or 400GB hard drives. And yet, the built-in data-backup software in Windows has changed little in the past decade. Windows Vista boasts a much-improved backup program that should help users avoid wholesale digital meltdowns. Microsoft also tweaked the useful System Restore feature--which takes snapshots of your system state so you can recover from a nasty infection or botched software installation.
9. Peer-to-peer collaboration: The Windows Collaboration module uses peer-to-peer technology to let Vista users work together in a shared workspace. You can form ad hoc workgroups and then jointly work on documents, present applications, and pass messages. You can even post "handouts" for others to review.
10. Quick setup: Beta code alert: There are some Vista features I hope dearly for even though they haven't been built yet. This is one of them. Jim Allchin, Microsoft's co-president, says that Windows Vista boasts a re-engineered install routine, which will slash setup times from about an hour to as little as 15 minutes. Hurray! The new code wasn't in the beta version of Vista that Microsoft sent to me--my aging rig took well over an hour to set up--so I'll believe it when I see it. Still, any improvement in this area is welcome."
Looks good but I gut most of the bloatware for better performance.
Still Windows is the best for hacking up and getting the best performance.Bravo Microsoft
Bright Spark
Posts: 310
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
June 10th, 2006, 02:18 PM
Quoting
I've set up a virtual xp machine in a couple of linux distros to run a couple of pgms and while it's neat and meets some of my needs it doesn't as of yet allow for high end gaming. You still need to boot into real xp to do that.
my comments on dual booting:
I personally do not like it, and consider it now far too "old school". With virtualization and multicore processors, the future will be running virtual OS's for all purposes.
I personally do not like it, and consider it now far too "old school". With virtualization and multicore processors, the future will be running virtual OS's for all purposes.
Bright Spark
Posts: 310
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
Location: North Lauderdale, FL
June 10th, 2006, 02:20 PM
Quoting
Seems like a good site with lots of info but it's missing the best free browser - Opera :P
Also have a look at this http://clubweb.interbaun.com/mward/gmc/freesw.html .
the clan of the claw
Posts: 1,976
June 10th, 2006, 02:31 PM
The real benefit to vista won't be visable to the end user. It is that MS has reworked the code and laid the foundation for newer technologies which will be released later.
Quoting
I know. Not everything can be virtualized yet, but we are getting closer. Quoting
I've set up a virtual xp machine in a couple of linux distros to run a couple of pgms and while it's neat and meets some of my needs it doesn't as of yet allow for high end gaming. You still need to boot into real xp to do that.
my comments on dual booting:
I personally do not like it, and consider it now far too "old school". With virtualization and multicore processors, the future will be running virtual OS's for all purposes.
I personally do not like it, and consider it now far too "old school". With virtualization and multicore processors, the future will be running virtual OS's for all purposes.
Quote:
this was the latest thing to be cut from vista.
Peer-to-peer collaboration: The Windows Collaboration module uses peer-to-peer technology to let Vista users work together in a shared workspace. You can form ad hoc workgroups and then jointly work on documents, present applications, and pass messages. You can even post "handouts" for others to review.
The real benefit to vista won't be visable to the end user. It is that MS has reworked the code and laid the foundation for newer technologies which will be released later.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,188
June 10th, 2006, 05:48 PM
But even these system requirements are really high.
-A 800 MHz processor
-512 MB of RAM
-DirectX 9.0-Capable graphics processor
-20GB of free hard drive space
Compare these to Windows XP's minimum system requirements.
-A 233 Mhz processor
-128 MB of RAM
-8 MB of Video RAM
-1.5 GB of free hard disk space
The Windows Vista minimum system requirements are 4 times higher than the minimum system requirements for Windows XP. And by the sound of it, Windows Vista isn't going to have many more features except for a few security updates, Internet Explorer 7, Windows Media Player 11, and the Windows Aero GUI.
Quoting
Microsoft is apparently set to release its long awaited and continuously delayed operating system, Windows Vista, in January 2007. This week they released the system requirements and most people are either going to have to upgrade their current PC or buy a new one.
Here are the minimum system requirements for Windows Vista.
-A 1 GHz processor
-1 GB of RAM
-A 128 MB video card
-40 GB of hard drive space for installation plus 15 GB free hard drive space
-A DVD drive
-Internet Access
These requirements are so you can just run the basic features of the operating system. You will need better computer hardware if you want Windows Vista to run at its best. The minimum price for a Windows Vista Capable PC is about $1000. Looks like you PC users are about to get *censored*.
Here are the minimum system requirements for Windows Vista.
-A 1 GHz processor
-1 GB of RAM
-A 128 MB video card
-40 GB of hard drive space for installation plus 15 GB free hard drive space
-A DVD drive
-Internet Access
These requirements are so you can just run the basic features of the operating system. You will need better computer hardware if you want Windows Vista to run at its best. The minimum price for a Windows Vista Capable PC is about $1000. Looks like you PC users are about to get *censored*.
Quoting
Oh, I thought those system requirements were the minimum. Sorry.
Your Info is incorrect.
But even these system requirements are really high.
-A 800 MHz processor
-512 MB of RAM
-DirectX 9.0-Capable graphics processor
-20GB of free hard drive space
Compare these to Windows XP's minimum system requirements.
-A 233 Mhz processor
-128 MB of RAM
-8 MB of Video RAM
-1.5 GB of free hard disk space
The Windows Vista minimum system requirements are 4 times higher than the minimum system requirements for Windows XP. And by the sound of it, Windows Vista isn't going to have many more features except for a few security updates, Internet Explorer 7, Windows Media Player 11, and the Windows Aero GUI.
Ponderous Intellect
Posts: 4,465
Videos: 1
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
Videos: 1
Location: Surrey, British Columbia
June 10th, 2006, 06:17 PM
JonB2004, I would suggest to you that a majority of computer users (or at least those who use their computers enough to be interested in purchasing Microsoft® Windows® Vista, would have hardware that meet the requirements described above. None of the items listed above are uncommon, by any stretch of the term. I don't think it matters that the requirements are higher than those of the Microsoft® Windows® XP operating system, since hardware has evolved since its release, just as has the operating system.
JonB2004, I would suggest to you that a majority of computer users (or at least those who use their computers enough to be interested in purchasing Microsoft® Windows® Vista, would have hardware that meet the requirements described above. None of the items listed above are uncommon, by any stretch of the term. I don't think it matters that the requirements are higher than those of the Microsoft® Windows® XP operating system, since hardware has evolved since its release, just as has the operating system.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 583
Location: Calgary, Alberta
Location: Calgary, Alberta
June 10th, 2006, 06:18 PM
Quoting
Keep in mind that right now the majority of new computers would be able to run this if they had a slight video card upgrade. By the time Vista is released, the standards will be even higher.
Oh, I thought those system requirements were the minimum. Sorry.
But even these system requirements are really high.
-A 800 MHz processor
-512 MB of RAM
-DirectX 9.0-Capable graphics processor
-20GB of free hard drive space
Compare these to Windows XP's minimum system requirements.
-A 233 Mhz processor
-128 MB of RAM
-8 MB of Video RAM
-1.5 GB of free hard disk space
But even these system requirements are really high.
-A 800 MHz processor
-512 MB of RAM
-DirectX 9.0-Capable graphics processor
-20GB of free hard drive space
Compare these to Windows XP's minimum system requirements.
-A 233 Mhz processor
-128 MB of RAM
-8 MB of Video RAM
-1.5 GB of free hard disk space
Super Genius
Posts: 1,239
Location: Edmonton
Location: Edmonton
June 11th, 2006, 03:41 AM
Uh Jon, those minimums aren't true. Not even close actually:
Here are the REAL minimums:
-800mhz 32bit or 64bit processor
-512mb RAM
-SVGA Video Card running at least 800x600 resolution
-20gig HDD (15gig free)
-CDROM Drive
That's it, not even close to what you posted. Also, even though I despise having to post links to info (it always feels like someone saying "I told you so" via the internet), I know how flakey people are on these forums about linking to everything under the sun, so here's the link to the proper minimums.
P.S. I just noticed now that someone else already corrected you, but I still had fun doing it. Mogz for the win!
Uh Jon, those minimums aren't true. Not even close actually:
Here are the REAL minimums:
-800mhz 32bit or 64bit processor
-512mb RAM
-SVGA Video Card running at least 800x600 resolution
-20gig HDD (15gig free)
-CDROM Drive
That's it, not even close to what you posted. Also, even though I despise having to post links to info (it always feels like someone saying "I told you so" via the internet), I know how flakey people are on these forums about linking to everything under the sun, so here's the link to the proper minimums.
P.S. I just noticed now that someone else already corrected you, but I still had fun doing it. Mogz for the win!
Member
Posts: 74
June 11th, 2006, 12:26 PM
I dont know what kind of computer would have more Ram than hertz
I have a 1ghz with 512mb of ram, and thats just barely enough to run XP and other startup programs smoothly.
I have no intentions of upgrading to Vista any time soon, and since Im just a regular PC user then linux and mac are just not needed/practical.
I dont know what kind of computer would have more Ram than hertz
I have a 1ghz with 512mb of ram, and thats just barely enough to run XP and other startup programs smoothly.
I have no intentions of upgrading to Vista any time soon, and since Im just a regular PC user then linux and mac are just not needed/practical.
