Except for Australia, Canada and Saudi Arabia G20 calls for phasing out 'fossil fuel

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Hosting a G20 summit is supposed to be prestigious. You get the leaders of the world's largest economies to come to your country, to gather in your town, to discuss the great problems of the day. As host you even get to set the agenda for the summit. You get to steer all those big wigs and they're supposed to follow your lead.

Now, following the G20 pow wow in Australia, we may have come away with the "Brisbane Rule." This applies in the situation where the host is a total dick. It operates to override the host's prerogative on setting the summit agenda. It's sort of like saying, "Look, we didn't come here to put up with childishness."

Case in point. Tony Abbott, inveterate fossil fueler that he is, struggled and strained mightily to thwart any discussion of climate change. He resisted every request to place climate change on his agenda. He had the backing of Canada and Saudi Arabia. Three peas in a pod. Nice one, Canada.

And so the grownups at the summit introduced the Brisbane Rule and discussed the climate change issue anyway. To avoid completely humiliating their host they agreed their discussions would be behind closed doors. All of this set the tone for the leaders' communique, a process one official described as "trench warfare (link is external)."

Over the objections of Australia, Canada and Saudi Arabia, the communique calls for phasing out of "inefficient fossil fuel subsidies."






The communique included references to taking practical measures to combat global warming and an explicit endorsement of the climate fund.
As revealed by Fairfax Media, the communique includes a line: "We reaffirm our support for mobilising finance for adaptation and mitigation such as the Green Climate Fund."
The inclusion of a detailed passage on climate change comes despite the issue not being on the formal agenda of the G20 summit and Mr Abbott's insistence that the focus of discussions should be on economic reform.
Mr Abbott has said previously he opposed any financial contribution to the climate fund, which was reportedly described in a Cabinet document as a measure that amounted to "socialism masquerading as environmentalism".
The Green Climate Fund aims to assist poor nations combat climate change and relies primarily on funding from governments and private firms in industrialised countries. US president Barack Obama announced the US would devote $US3 billion to the fund, before he made a rallying call on Saturday for global action to curb greenhouse gas emissions.
Japan pledged it would contribute $US1.5 billion to the climate fund on Sunday, taking the total commitment of nations so far to about $US8 billion. The fund wants to raise $US10-15 billion by the end of the month.

What a novel idea, "polluter pays." Yet even the paltry amount proposed for the Green Climate Fund sends miscreants like Abbott and Harper reeling.

It's a safe bet that Tony Abbott wasn't sad to see his visitors leave Australia. The writing's on the wall. It's not just environmentalists and the young any more. Now even their peers see Abbott and Harper as pariahs.




Mr Abbott gave an impassioned defence of coal and, reportedly, argued against inserting a line in the communique recommending the abolition of fossil fuel subsidies, an objective of the G20 for many years.

Coal-fired power stations are the biggest contributor to rising global carbon emissions that are warming the planet.

Mr Obama is understood to have spoken forcefully against Mr Abbott's position on fossil fuel subsidies. The final communique calls on G20 members to "rationalise and phase out inefficient fossil fuel subsidies".

Mr Abbott had support from Saudi Arabia and Canada, but countries led by the US and Europe remained steadfast.


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Climate change in G20 communique after 'trench warfare'
 

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So at least three countries are standing up for their citizens. And one isn't even a democracy. Good for them.





Appears Harper has bow downed to Obama ..............










By announcing a U.S.-China agreement on limiting greenhouse gas pollution and a domestic pledge of $3 billion to a climate fund for developing countries, Obama is hoping to press other polluting nations to make similar commitments. Or, at the very least, he’s trying to make it more politically uncomfortable for allies to continue with business as usual.


There are already signs he’s succeeding at the latter. Just look to two of the world’s most powerful climate change deniers—Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and Australian Prime Minister Tony Abbott—for evidence.


At the very end of the G-20 talks in Australia, Harper broke with his usual ally on climate issues to announce Canada’s commitment to the Green Climate Fund, which helps poorer nations adapt to global warming. Until this point, it wasn’t clear whether Canada intended to make a donation to the fund. Abbott—Canada’s natural ally against clean energy growth—opposes it.


Harper didn’t say how much Canada will pledge, after the U.S. pledged $3 billion and Japan $1.5 billion. He claimed to support an "international agreement of binding obligations on all major emitters" ever since he took office in 2006. "For the first time, that is actually starting to take shape." Of course, Harper's record shows he is much less serious about the issue than he now claims.


Even so, this counts as a break between the two countries. According to a report from the Sydney Morning Herald, Abbott in June identified Harper as part of a “conservative alliance among ‘like minded’ countries” that would try to dismantle global efforts against climate change.




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I am all for Harper pledging a few dollars.... just as long as his statement is non-binding and completely unenforceable


I can't wait for the U.S to back off on this pledge. I just hope the pressure isn't too much on Canada to be too late.


I also want to see where each dollar goes to and what for.


Then the wheels will come off.




And this U.S-China agreement... even the alarmists are saying it will not effect the climate or change the climate. But it was never about the climate... it was always about wealth distribution and theft.
 

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Hopefully, the US will attach conditions. Without those and real over sight, that cash will go to luxury sports cars and weapons.

It's such a pitiful joke, I laugh my butt off with the tards that believe it will go to solar panels and organic tomatoes
 

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Why would that be a bad thing? I thought we wanted them to be more like America.

We do.

But this is supposed to go to making "developing nations" more green. You know solar panels and organic tomatoes.

But in the end the money will go to sports cars, weapons, and Swiss bank accounts.
 

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Over the objections of Australia, Canada and Saudi Arabia, the communique calls for phasing out of "inefficient fossil fuel subsidies."

interesting in that the 'eliminating fossil-fuel subsidies' theme has been a consistent one for the G20... going back several years now; from this 2009 dated article: G20 agrees on phase-out of fossil fuel subsidies. How odd for Harper to object this go-round... since he/Canada has voted to support this initiative all previous years. :lol: A 2012 dated article where then Harper Conservative Environment Minister Peter Kent says: Canada still plans to eliminate fossil fuel subsidies Why Harper, you shirt-fronting bastard you! :canada:

crikey Abbott! The full text:

19. We support strong and effective action to address climate change. Consistent with the United Nations Framework Convention on Climate Change (UNFCCC) and its agreed outcomes, our actions will support sustainable development, economic growth, and certainty for business and investment. We will work together to adopt successfully a protocol, another legal instrument or an agreed outcome with legal force under the UNFCCC that is applicable to all parties at the 21st Conference of the Parties (COP21) in Paris in 2015. We encourage parties that are ready to communicate their intended nationally determined contributions well in advance of COP21 (by the first quarter of 2015 for those parties ready to do so). We reaffirm our support for mobilising finance for adaptation and mitigation, such as the Green Climate Fund.
 

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Case in point. Tony Abbott, inveterate fossil fueler that he is, struggled and strained mightily to thwart any discussion of climate change. He resisted every request to place climate change on his agenda. He had the backing of Canada and Saudi Arabia. Three peas in a pod. Nice one, Canada.

I'm sorry to say that Britain didn't back you up. Instead, thanks to the liberals running us, we're going to keep pursuing the wacky green agenda which will see our lights and power go out by 2020. We've been warning the greenies about this for years, but they still refuse to listen. They'll take note when we'll all be living by candlelight in a few years' time, though. We should be scrapping the windmills and building more nuclear and coal-fired powers stations. But it won't happen, because the Liberal Establishment knows best, you see.
 

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Over the objections of Australia, Canada and Saudi Arabia, the communique calls for phasing out of "inefficient fossil fuel subsidies."

Why would Canada object to phasing out fossil fuel subsidies when we clearly don't provide fossil fuel subsidies? :lol:
 

mentalfloss

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Bazinga. Or, since this is a Canadian board, le mot juste.

Au jus