"AbstractIt may come as a surprise to some, but the Bible has a great deal to say about the environment and its conservation some 20 centuries since it was written. Perhaps among the most surprised will be Bible-toting church goers who may have never heard a sermon related to the "environmental crisis" which has become such a concern to so many around the world. This lack of attention by Ch
Sighhhh..haven't you anything of value to contribute?
Holy Mother Church is just slowly emerging from one of the greatest blows to its credibility in recent memory. We are attempting to right the wrongs committed by a few members of our "staff".
We face unprecedented growth in Africa and South-east Asia, yet we are struggling to face the financial needs of these areas.
People are dying in our streets, and many of us in the Church are almost overwhelmed with the cries of pain heard by people all around us as they struggle to survive.
And on top of all this, must we also have your voice adding to our trauma?
Won't you please consider converting to Judaism or Islam? I have some contacts if you're interested!
Don't worry, I'm either Agnostic, or United so you don't need to worry. Or more simply I just don't care much about religion right now. I just though it might be an interesting read.
Of course you are agnostic, hence the many posts purporting to represent a religious point of view.
Weather or not I believe in a deity or not I hardly see how this precludes me from arguing from a religious perspective. The western culture and philosophy is heavily routed in Christianity and thus I think it is important to understand and learn how to reason from that perspective.
Sanctus...I honestly mean no disrespect...I enjoy your posts and find you very intelligent and well-spoken, but I have an honest question.
You mentioned that the church doesn't have the money for expansion in Africa or Asia. I fully admit that I'm not very experienced or knowledgable in religion and catholicism...but I was under the impression that the Vatican was wealthy. Jewel-encrusted gold...whatnot. Am I a conplete retard here, or is the Vatican quite wealthy? I'm just curious, and I know that you're a priest. Like I said...meaning no disrespect to you at all, and I don't know if this question will offend or not.
What led you to use s243a as your call name?
It was my user name at the University of New Brunswick. I was a student a big part of my life and I liked the irony of picking a name that was just another number.
Did you study environmental subjects? How about religious studies?
I studied physics at Mount Allison University and Electrical Engineering at the University of New Brunswick. That gives me two undergraduate degrees and most of a masters. I would of liked to take some electives in theology. It might have been interesting. I did take one course (philosophy) at Mount Allison on Environmental Ethics. I was one of the few in the course that favored progress over environmentalism. It was probably 9 years ago or so when I took that course. What turned me off environmentalism then was the hatred of nuclear power by environmentalists.
Very impressive. Caring for the environment is a duty for the present but most important leaving it a better place for our kids.
Religious studies are a good time waster.
You get to learn rules that nobody follows and the kicker is that you can sin all you want and always be forgiven.
The Vatican collects wealth for God and more churches are built so they can collect more money.
Very little is given back to the people.
Every week you get to watch the priest drink the wine break the wafer and you get a piece of wafer only if you are good and you put enough money in the collection plate.
You are given a book to read about how good people are saved if they give money to the church and then you get to argue about the about different aspects of the book.
As long as you give money to the church and tell the priest of your sins then you can continue sinning because you will always be forgiven.
Some of the more fundamentalist are hung up on the "end times". With the world scheduled to end why bother with long term future plans. Use and abuse the planet cause God is going to wipe it out anyways.
Sanctus why the hositility? I was merely trying to provoke discussion of the relationship between the church and the environment?
And like the three mentioned, their entire basis for their beliefs rests on those two magic words that they seem to feel gives them authority. "I think", which is probably the most annoying way to begin any discussion as deeply layered as theology.>>>Sanctus
But do I think>>>Sanctus
Do I know everything? Good Lord no!>>>Sanctus
I liked your rant I guess you were agreeing with my post that organized religion is all smoke and mirrors or a dog and pony show.
Tell me Sanctus what do you think the main message of the bible is?
Can you sum it up in one sentence?
I know the answer because God told me a long time ago but did you figure it out yet or are you still walking the labyrinth of understanding.
Sigh, of course Look. He whispers in your ears, telling you about all the magic hidden meanings that men better educated in theology don't get. Silly them.
When you pray Sanctus, what do you expect to hear from God?
Or how do you hear from God?