Using the Lord's name in Vain

westmanguy

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Just a subject.

You been in a crowd and had a person say:

OMG
J.... C....!
OMLord
For C.... sakes
G... damnit

and other things insulting God and Jesus.

I always get personally offended when I hear this in public, and even tell my non-religious (not atheist, but not church-goers either), friends not to say it around me.

I always get dirty looks when I say in public not to use that language...

For the record I say: Oh My Gosh.

Also, my other thoughts are, why doesn't this happen to other religious figures.

How come you never hear:

Allah d.....
Buddah!
Mohammed!

and use the other religious figures in vein.

I hate it when people say it, OMG, I have become used to (when I shouldn't) hearing, but when someone says J.C. in vein, I always tell them off.

Thoughts? Why do we bash around a religious name in such an awful matter? Lets get down to the root of WHY?
 

Dexter Sinister

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Truth to tell westmanguy, I don't like to hear that kind of language either, and I'm an atheist. It's just so lame and pointless and unnecessary. If people are going to swear in public, and they are, regrettably, the least they could do is try to be a little more entertaining. Besides, you can't entirely escape your upbringing. I grew up in a deeply religious household, and it was drilled into me from an early age that one simply does not speak that way, it's a sign of an inadequate vocabulary, disrespect, poor self-control, and general intellectual weakness. Some part of me still believes that. I hear 12-year olds talking that way in the malls, and I wince. There's no point in trying to do anything about that, it'll just make it worse, but I don't allow anyone to talk to me that way and nobody's allowed to talk that way in my house. That's all you can do, really: keep your own corner clean.
 

tamarin

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There are few words I won't use when context and situation justify them. Whatever that means in this squirrely world I live in. But I can honestly say I have never at any point in my life exclaimed JC in vain. You have to have some scruples. That's a line I've never crossed. Although I've foolishly crossed lots of others.
 

westmanguy

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I have said OMG, before, but so far in my life, I have never said

JC!
G dam...

only really said OMG... I would have a heart attack if I said JC! To me that is SO offensive.

Besides if I said that growing up my mother would throw me out of the house.

So, DexterSinister, I have the same type of upbringing as you in that respect, only words my parents ever let me say were bi** sh** da**, but everything else was not tolerated for me to say.

Its just clean vocab.
 

Sparrow

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I live in a mining town and you should hear the language. They use every RC religious article they can. It acturally hurts my ears. When someone next to be, or someone I know does this, I usually say to them "Gee I am so sorry for you, such a lack of vocabulary must really be a handicap". If looks could kill! My husband says that someday I might eat some fist, but nobody had tries they just stop talking.
 

L Gilbert

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I swear periodically. Usually for emphasis. I've probably forgotten more words than any high school student has seen. Swearing has no effect from or on vocabulary. It does irritate me, too, though, when i hear people spouting the f-word three or four times a sentence.
 

gopher

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Contrary to Christian teaching, words such "oh my God" do not constitute profanations. Such an utterance is nothing more than an invocation for Divine protection against events that shock or hurt believers. Using God's name for nonworshipful purposes is what constitutes using the name in vain.

In the New Testament we are told: [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]"I say to you, do not swear at all: neither by heaven, for it is God's throne; nor by the earth, for it is His footstool; nor by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. Nor shall you swear by your head, because you cannot make one hair white or black. But let your 'Yes' be 'Yes,' and your 'No,' 'No.' For whatever is more than these is from the evil one" (Matthew 5:34-37)

In Deuteronomy 5:11 the word for vain is the Hebrew word "shav" which means emptiness, vanity, lies, or worthless conduct. It does not mean you cannot invoke God's protection in a crisis. In other worlds, do not profane God by lying or by using Him to justify yourself before human authorities. This is how the Bible illustrates taking the Divine name in vain.

For proof see,

http://www.blueletterbible.org/cgi-bin/words.pl?book=Deu&chapter=5&verse=11&strongs=07723&page=


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snfu73

disturber of the peace
You stop calling people sinners...or stop your brethren from calling people sinners, or heretics, or evil or othernames, and I will stop using the lord's name in vain....

It erks me when people use words like retard, faggot, gayrod, homo, indian (in reference to First Nations folks), etc....

But...I can't control people.
 

hermanntrude

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You stop calling people sinners...or stop your brethren from calling people sinners, or heretics, or evil or othernames, and I will stop using the lord's name in vain....

It erks me when people use words like retard, faggot, gayrod, homo, indian (in reference to First Nations folks), etc....

But...I can't control people.

my Cree friends refer to themselves as indians. They laughed at me for saying first nations.