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July 18th, 2006, 05:04 AM
http://koti.phnet.fi/elohim/arguments.html
The purpose of the following lines is to contemplate those obstacles, which one may encounter on the way leading to eternal life and why some people don't turn to God so easily. The purpose is to deliberate especially over those outlooks and thoughts, which lie in the minds of many people and make them negative toward spiritual matters and God's call; in other words reasons, why they turn their backs on God's salvation and grace.
So, when we start searching for reasons and obstacles, why these people don't turn to God and on what grounds, especially the following points are relevant. They appear again and again in the lives of many people and are a reason for why spiritual matters and God's call are neglected by them.
http://koti.phnet.fi/elohim/arguments.html
The purpose of the following lines is to contemplate those obstacles, which one may encounter on the way leading to eternal life and why some people don't turn to God so easily. The purpose is to deliberate especially over those outlooks and thoughts, which lie in the minds of many people and make them negative toward spiritual matters and God's call; in other words reasons, why they turn their backs on God's salvation and grace.
So, when we start searching for reasons and obstacles, why these people don't turn to God and on what grounds, especially the following points are relevant. They appear again and again in the lives of many people and are a reason for why spiritual matters and God's call are neglected by them.
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July 19th, 2006, 01:37 AM
Mystic nonsense. I've read all of your posts so far, Onebody, and all the stuff you've linked to, and I'm left wondering, is there actually something you want to discuss, or do you just come in here to preach at us? From the level of response you've got, it seems you're wasting your time. Has nobody ever explained to you that the Bible was written not by God, but by people with a political agenda? That it can't be taken literally? That the New Testament was proven by 19th century German theologians to have been modified by copyists to conform to Old Testament prophecies? That the apocalyptic writings in Daniel and Revelations demonstrably refer to events more or less contemporary with their authors, not our times?
That's not to denigrate the scriptures, but you have to understand them in their historical context. In particular, they're not a science book, they're not a history book, they don't predict the future, they're not literally true. They're fiction; brilliant and moving fiction, certainly, full of useful messages and lessons, written by people with a deep understanding of human nature, but still fiction. They're mythic tales containing definitions of culture and powerful stories about what is universally true in human nature, but that's all they are.
Mystic nonsense. I've read all of your posts so far, Onebody, and all the stuff you've linked to, and I'm left wondering, is there actually something you want to discuss, or do you just come in here to preach at us? From the level of response you've got, it seems you're wasting your time. Has nobody ever explained to you that the Bible was written not by God, but by people with a political agenda? That it can't be taken literally? That the New Testament was proven by 19th century German theologians to have been modified by copyists to conform to Old Testament prophecies? That the apocalyptic writings in Daniel and Revelations demonstrably refer to events more or less contemporary with their authors, not our times?
That's not to denigrate the scriptures, but you have to understand them in their historical context. In particular, they're not a science book, they're not a history book, they don't predict the future, they're not literally true. They're fiction; brilliant and moving fiction, certainly, full of useful messages and lessons, written by people with a deep understanding of human nature, but still fiction. They're mythic tales containing definitions of culture and powerful stories about what is universally true in human nature, but that's all they are.
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July 20th, 2006, 10:05 AM
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I had heard this, but have never seen documentation. Can you point me to a source for this, Dexter Sinister? Thanks.
That the New Testament was proven by 19th century German theologians to have been modified by copyists to conform to Old Testament prophecies?
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October 30th, 2006, 02:11 PM
"I am scientific"
“Firstly, the view of own scientificness and wisdom is a reason, why many”
The above quote is taken directly from the web page.
scientificness, is not a word. The jury is still out on the use of “Firstly”.
Scientific:
Science in the broadest sense refers to any system of knowledge attained by verifiable means.
That word verifiable always creeps in, doesn’t it!
NESS:
Ness (ネス, Nesu?) is the hero of EarthBound. He is an unassuming young boy, gifted with special powers. He comes from Onett, a small town in Eagleland, and lives next door to a boy named Pokey Minch, who becomes one of the main antagonists later in the game. Ness is a silent protagonist.
silent protagonist:
A silent protagonist is a central character who does not verbally interact with other characters within a story's narrative.
So by your very own definition you should stop posting. If the god does exist people will find him in their own way.
Maybe the people who stopped listening to Paul, just got tired of hearing it.
Maybe he did more harm than good.
You must remember the prophecy of, jesus the christ, was nothing new to these people. They have been hearing for decades how the messiah was coming. Much like our rapture and Tribulation talk has been going on since 33 A.D. / or 27 A.D., depending upon which text you read about his birth. Speaking of, his birth was on the 6th of Jan.
1/6/00
1x6=6
The sum extended 2 more times by the “00”= 666.
The above equation can be verified as much as eternal life and “The Flying Spaghetti Monster”.
As far as Pastfarian’s (love the name by the way) inquiry,
Check out the history on Constantine.
When the new testament was written.
Why and how rome became christian.
If someone can find me “The whole bible”. Not just what we have today.
I would love to read it.
Plus, even the versions of the bible we can get our hands on differ in syntax which, as I am sure you are aware, changes the meaning of the message.
"I am scientific"
“Firstly, the view of own scientificness and wisdom is a reason, why many”
The above quote is taken directly from the web page.
scientificness, is not a word. The jury is still out on the use of “Firstly”.
Scientific:
Science in the broadest sense refers to any system of knowledge attained by verifiable means.
That word verifiable always creeps in, doesn’t it!
NESS:
Ness (ネス, Nesu?) is the hero of EarthBound. He is an unassuming young boy, gifted with special powers. He comes from Onett, a small town in Eagleland, and lives next door to a boy named Pokey Minch, who becomes one of the main antagonists later in the game. Ness is a silent protagonist.
silent protagonist:
A silent protagonist is a central character who does not verbally interact with other characters within a story's narrative.
So by your very own definition you should stop posting. If the god does exist people will find him in their own way.
Maybe the people who stopped listening to Paul, just got tired of hearing it.
Maybe he did more harm than good.
You must remember the prophecy of, jesus the christ, was nothing new to these people. They have been hearing for decades how the messiah was coming. Much like our rapture and Tribulation talk has been going on since 33 A.D. / or 27 A.D., depending upon which text you read about his birth. Speaking of, his birth was on the 6th of Jan.
1/6/00
1x6=6
The sum extended 2 more times by the “00”= 666.
The above equation can be verified as much as eternal life and “The Flying Spaghetti Monster”.
As far as Pastfarian’s (love the name by the way) inquiry,
Check out the history on Constantine.
When the new testament was written.
Why and how rome became christian.
If someone can find me “The whole bible”. Not just what we have today.
I would love to read it.
Plus, even the versions of the bible we can get our hands on differ in syntax which, as I am sure you are aware, changes the meaning of the message.
