The Ultimate Condemnation of Believers Who Continue to Sin

[JamesM]

2 Peter 2:1-22, TLB
“… there will be false teachers among you. They will cleverly tell their lies about God,
turning against even their Master who bought them; but theirs will be a swift and terrible end.
Many will follow their evil teaching that there is nothing wrong with sexual sin …
But God condemned them long ago and their destruction is on the way …
false teachers are fools—no better than animals. They do whatever they feel like …
and they will be destroyed along with all the demons and powers of hell. That is the
pay these teachers will have for their sin. For they live in evil pleasures day after day.
They are a disgrace and a stain among you, deceiving you by living in foul sin on the side
… They train themselves to be greedy; and are doomed and cursed. They have gone off the
road and become lost like Balaam … These men are as useless as dried-up springs of water
… They are doomed to the eternal pits of darkness … they lure back into sin those who
have just escaped from such wicked living. ‘You aren’t saved by being good’, they say,
‘so you might as well be bad. Do what you like; be free.’ But these very teachers
who offer this ‘freedom’ from law are themselves slaves to sin and destruction.
For a man is a slave to whatever controls him (A). And when a person has escaped from
the wicked ways of the world by learning about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and then
gets tangled up with sin and becomes its slave again, he is worse off than he was before (B).
It would be better if he had never known about Christ at all than to learn of him and then
afterwards turn his back on the holy commandments that were given to him. There is an old
saying that ‘A dog comes back to what he has vomited, and a pig is washed only to come back
and wallow in the mud again.’ That is the way it is with those who turn again to their sin.”

This passage condemns both false teachers and their followers to eternal hell.

Believers who choose to be slaves of sin again are the foolish rebellious believers:
(A) that Paul warns about in Romans 6
(B) that become worse off than unbelievers

 

[taxslave]

god is dead.

 

[JamesM]

god is dead.

Yeah, really?
How come when I have placed my hands on people and prayed
for them in Jesus' name, they were instantly healed?

Oh, I know ... the Devil made me do it, and the Devil did it!
To give a lot of glory to Jesus!
Yup, that must be it ... Thanks!

 

[TenPenny]

2 Peter 2:1-22, TLB
“… there will be false teachers among you. They will cleverly tell their lies about God,
turning against even their Master who bought them; but theirs will be a swift and terrible end.
Many will follow their evil teaching that there is nothing wrong with sexual sin …
But God condemned them long ago and their destruction is on the way …
false teachers are fools—no better than animals. They do whatever they feel like …
and they will be destroyed along with all the demons and powers of hell. That is the
pay these teachers will have for their sin. For they live in evil pleasures day after day.
They are a disgrace and a stain among you, deceiving you by living in foul sin on the side
… They train themselves to be greedy; and are doomed and cursed. They have gone off the
road and become lost like Balaam … These men are as useless as dried-up springs of water
… They are doomed to the eternal pits of darkness … they lure back into sin those who
have just escaped from such wicked living. ‘You aren’t saved by being good’, they say,
‘so you might as well be bad. Do what you like; be free.’ But these very teachers
who offer this ‘freedom’ from law are themselves slaves to sin and destruction.
For a man is a slave to whatever controls him (A). And when a person has escaped from
the wicked ways of the world by learning about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, and then
gets tangled up with sin and becomes its slave again, he is worse off than he was before (B).
It would be better if he had never known about Christ at all than to learn of him and then
afterwards turn his back on the holy commandments that were given to him. There is an old
saying that ‘A dog comes back to what he has vomited, and a pig is washed only to come back
and wallow in the mud again.’ That is the way it is with those who turn again to their sin.”

This passage condemns both false teachers and their followers to eternal hell.

Believers who choose to be slaves of sin again are the foolish rebellious believers:
(A) that Paul warns about in Romans 6
(B) that become worse off than unbelievers

Posting this crap shows that you're about a hair's-breadth away from being a fundamental Islamic terrorist.

 

[darkbeaver]

Fundamental Christian terrorists have never gone away. I don't think he would have to switch Gods.

 

[Jinentonix]

Yeah, really?
How come when I have placed my hands on people and prayed
for them in Jesus' name, they were instantly healed?

HAHAHAHAHAHA Yes, I'm sure they were healed. Healed of the extra weight carried in their wallets.

 

[darkbeaver]

He may be able to do remote healing.

 

[Cliffy]

Yeah, really?
How come when I have placed my hands on people and prayed
for them in Jesus' name, they were instantly healed?

Oh, I know ... the Devil made me do it, and the Devil did it!
To give a lot of glory to Jesus!
Yup, that must be it ... Thanks!

If you even had a basic understanding of metaphysics you would know that anybody can do that and you don't need to invoke the name of Jesus or Satan or Lord. Everything is energy, including us.

Spirituality is about humility and you sir, have none. You are coming from intellect and ego. That will get you into hell faster than shacking up with a hooker. Just ask all the TV evangelists who have gone down that road.

 

[MHz]

That's only one of a few ways that God makes sure the sinners outnumber believers by a full 1/3 on the day of reckoning.

Apparently if the 'congregation' allows a sinner to stay then the whole congregation receives the same punishment. First let put a log in every-bodies eye.

1Co:5:5-8:
To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh,
that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
Your glorying is not good.
Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
Purge out therefore the old leaven,
that ye may be a new lump,
as ye are unleavened.
For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven,
neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness;
but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.

For 10 points can anyone (in class) explain why God wants to save only 1/3 of the living??

For the fastest way to the 'exit door' you can;t beat this determination.

M'r:6:11:
And whosoever shall not receive you,
nor hear you,
when ye depart thence,
shake off the dust under your feet for a testimony against them.
Verily I say unto you,
It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment,
than for that city.

For 10 extra points can anybody explain why 'that city' could even be changed over to something like the group of people that gather here constantly??

 

[TenPenny]

Fundamental Christian terrorists have never gone away. I don't think he would have to switch Gods.

It's the same God, it's only the go-betweens that are different.

 

[Motar]

Believers who choose to be slaves of sin...

are not believers, James.

"My sheep recognize my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life and they shall never perish. No one shall snatch them away from me..." (John 10:27-28 TLB)

 

[Ludlow]

are not believers, James.

"My sheep recognize my voice, and I know them, and they follow me. I give them eternal life and they shall never perish. No one shall snatch them away from me..." (John 10:27-28 TLB)

Yes. The lost sheep of the House of Israel.

 

[MHz]

Yeah, really?
How come when I have placed my hands on people and prayed
for them in Jesus' name, they were instantly healed?

Really?? God gives you a 'gift' like that and you squander your time here where the laying of hands will usually make you see stars, . . . and a clinic to get a few stitches. One would think you should be doing hospital rounds and keep 5 beds a head of the Doctors. Looks like you might be due some punishment yourself.

M't:25:23-33:
His lord said unto him,
Well done,
good and faithful servant;
thou hast been faithful over a few things,
I will make thee ruler over many things:
enter thou into the joy of thy lord.
Then he which had received the one talent came and said,
Lord,
I knew thee that thou art an hard man,
reaping where thou hast not sown,
and gathering where thou hast not strawed:
And I was afraid,
and went and hid thy talent in the earth:
lo,
there thou hast that is thine.
His lord answered and said unto him,
Thou wicked and slothful servant,
thou knewest that I reap where I sowed not,
and gather where I have not strawed:
Thou oughtest therefore to have put my money to the exchangers,
and then at my coming I should have received mine own with usury.
Take therefore the talent from him,
and give it unto him which hath ten talents.
For unto every one that hath shall be given,
and he shall have abundance:
but from him that hath not shall be taken away even that which he hath.
And cast ye the unprofitable servant into outer darkness:
there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.
When the Son of man shall come in his glory,
and all the holy angels with him,
then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
And before him shall be gathered all nations:
and he shall separate them one from another,
as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
And he shall set the sheep on his right hand,
but the goats on the left.

Isa:56:9-12:
All ye beasts of the field,
come to devour,
yea,
all ye beasts in the forest.
His watchmen are blind: they are all ignorant,
they are all dumb dogs,
they cannot bark;
sleeping,
lying down,
loving to slumber.
Yea,
they are greedy dogs which can never have enough,
and they are shepherds that cannot understand:
they all look to their own way,
every one for his gain,
from his quarter.
Come ye,
say they,
I will fetch wine,
and we will fill ourselves with strong drink;
and to morrow shall be as this day,
and much more abundant.

Ac:27:25:
Wherefore,
sirs,
be of good cheer:
for I believe God,
that it shall be even as it was told me.

Yes. The lost sheep of the House of Israel.

Paul and the Beloved Disciple refer to Gentiles as 'their children, when Jew says that what do you conjure up what that actually means??

You may or may nor realize that the tower of Babble was a Gentile project of that the 600+ laws from the OT were temporary as are the 10 Commandments, they will be retired for the Law stated in Re:21 as that is the Law that is befitting a sinless and immortal group of people comprised of the 12 Tribes and the Church. Still with the program??

Joh:10:16:
And other sheep I have,
which are not of this fold:
them also I must bring,
and they shall hear my voice;
and there shall be one fold,
and one shepherd.

Ac:10:17-20:
Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean,
behold,
the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house,
and stood before the gate,
And called,
and asked whether Simon,
which was surnamed Peter,
were lodged there.
While Peter thought on the vision,
the Spirit said unto him,
Behold,
three men seek thee.
Arise therefore,
and get thee down,
and go with them,
doubting nothing:
for I have sent them.

 

[Ludlow]

Yeah, really?
How come when I have placed my hands on people and prayed
for them in Jesus' name, they were instantly healed?

Oh, I know ... the Devil made me do it, and the Devil did it!
To give a lot of glory to Jesus!
Yup, that must be it ... Thanks!

Um hmm. uh, yeah right. yeeeeewww betchee. BE HEALED!!!,,,,,inthe nayhayhayhayhaymmmm of Jaysus amen.

 

[MHz]

Jude:1:18:
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time,
who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

I guess that one can get a check-mark beside it. (along with Johnny. He has been mocked already in case you missed it. You appear to be applying to be his sermon writer.)

M'r:5:8:
For he said unto him,
Come out of the man,
thou unclean spirit.

Should it resist you, a 40 day fast will solve that 'problem', same as it did for Jesus.

 

[darkbeaver]

Yes. The lost sheep of the House of Israel.

They have been characterized as lost when in fact they have escaped.

 

[Ludlow]

They have been characterized as lost when in fact they have escaped.

Depends on your perspective DB

Jude:1:18:
How that they told you there should be mockers in the last time,
who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.

I guess that one can get a check-mark beside it. (along with Johnny. He has been mocked already in case you missed it. You appear to be applying to be his sermon writer.)

M'r:5:8:
For he said unto him,
Come out of the man,
thou unclean spirit.

Should it resist you, a 40 day fast will solve that 'problem', same as it did for Jesus.

take your pills

 

[MHz]

That new O3 one is, . . . . interesting. Vant some??

You shour have a cactus flower salad and go for a long walk, clear your mind.

 

[darkbeaver]

Every time I think about her I'm showered in Sin.

 

[Motar]

Yes. The lost sheep of the House of Israel.

"Fellow children of Abraham and you God-fearing Gentiles, it is to us that this message of salvation has been sent." (Acts 13:26 NIV)