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Motar
#31
Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

anti christ means against christ. And it sure was true in those times. And I'm not talking the obvious.

"As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. 'Tell us,' they said, 'when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?' Jesus answered: 'Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.

At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time."

(Matthew 24:3-4, 23-24 NIV)


Key words of note: "many", "Messiah", "deceive", "false" and "signs and wonders". As with all counterfeits, the means of identification begins and ends with knowing the Legitimate One.
 
Retired_Can_Soldier
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#32
The mark of the beast.
 
taxslave
#33
Quote: Originally Posted by MotarView Post

"As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. 'Tell us,' they said, 'when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?' Jesus answered: 'Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.

At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time."

(Matthew 24:3-4, 23-24 NIV)


Key words of note: "many", "Messiah", "deceive", "false" and "signs and wonders". As with all counterfeits, the means of identification begins and ends with knowing the Legitimate One.

You know of course yours is a false messiah? Don't you? Selfsame said so.
 
spaminator
+1
#34
Quote: Originally Posted by Retired_Can_SoldierView Post

The mark of the beast.

 
MHz
#35
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

I always thought the mark of the beast was our SIN number. Back in the 80s and 90s, most federal government phone numbers began with 666. Once I started pointing that out to people, the numbers started to change. Not sure if there is a connection though.

SIN is not a connection to the mark if you take these points as being part of the mark. The ability to buy and sell with 'ease' and the point of doing that is you make money, lots of it as that is the 'reward' that is offered. The list below seems to be items that would be above 'basic needs' so I take the mark to be the business permit that comes with signing on with one of the 10 men that will be the rules of kingdoms that has a fallen angel (as defined in the book of Jude) as it's highest authority.

Re:18:9-16:
And the kings of the earth,
who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her,
shall bewail her,
and lament for her,
when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
Standing afar off for the fear of her torment,
saying,
Alas,
alas,
that great city Babylon,
that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her;
for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
The merchandise of gold,
and silver,
and precious stones,
and of pearls,
and fine linen,
and purple,
and silk,
and scarlet,
and all thyine wood,
and all manner vessels of ivory,
and all manner vessels of most precious wood,
and of brass,
and iron,
and marble,
And cinnamon,
and odours,
and ointments,
and frankincense,
and wine,
and oil,
and fine flour,
and wheat,
and beasts,
and sheep,
and horses,
and chariots,
and slaves,
and souls of men.
And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee,
and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee,
and thou shalt find them no more at all.
The merchants of these things,
which were made rich by her,
shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment,
weeping and wailing,
And saying,
Alas,
alas,
that great city,
that was clothed in fine linen,
and purple,
and scarlet,
and decked with gold,
and precious stones,
and pearls!

Now that most of the readers are asleep the 10 kings would be political leaders as they are supposed to be the head of the Military. The Military is 'the sword' in Romans:13 and at that time the supreme leader was one person at a time. Military conquests are part of the end times and that is led by two fallen angels, Satan (the red dragon) and the Beast from the Pit.

Re:17:12:
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings,
which have received no kingdom as yet;
but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.

Da:7:7:
After this I saw in the night visions,
and behold a fourth beast,
dreadful and terrible,
and strong exceedingly;
and it had great iron teeth:
it devoured and brake in pieces,
and stamped the residue with the feet of it:
and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it;
and it had ten horns.
Da:7:8:
I considered the horns,
and,
behold,
there came up among them another little horn,
before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots:
and,
behold,
in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man,
and a mouth speaking great things.Da:7:16-22:
I came near unto one of them that stood by,
and asked him the truth of all this.
So he told me,
and made me know the interpretation of the things.
These great beasts,
which are four,
are four kings,
which shall arise out of the earth.
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom,
and possess the kingdom for ever,
even for ever and ever.
Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast,
which was diverse from all the others,
exceeding dreadful,
whose teeth were of iron,
and his nails of brass;
which devoured,
brake in pieces,
and stamped the residue with his feet;
And of the ten horns that were in his head,
and of the other which came up,
and before whom three fell;
even of that horn that had eyes,
and a mouth that spake very great things,
whose look was more stout than his fellows.
I beheld,
and the same horn made war with the saints,
and prevailed against them;
Until the Ancient of days came,
and judgment was given to the saints of the most High;
and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.

Re:16:14:
For they are the spirits of devils,
working miracles,
which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world,
to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.
 
DaSleeper
#36
FIFY

and scarlet,
and ointments,
Re:16:14:
that mighty city! for in one hour is thy judgment come.
and the time came that the saints possessed the kingdom.
shall bewail her,
and wine,
whose look was more stout than his fellows.
and judgment was given to the saints of the most High;
whose teeth were of iron,

and his nails of brass;
and all manner vessels of ivory,
And the fruits that thy soul lusted after are departed from thee,
and fine flour,
and odours,
and fine linen,
and souls of men.

which was diverse from all the others,
Standing afar off for the fear of her torment,
to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty
and prevailed against them;
there came up among them another little horn,
And the ten horns which thou sawest are ten kings,
and all things which were dainty and goodly are departed from thee,
and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it;
saying,
After this I saw in the night visions,
and purple,
and frankincense,
are four kings,
Alas,
and it had great iron teeth:
and,
behold,
exceeding dreadful,
and wheat,
and all manner vessels of most precious wood,
I beheld,
and behold a fourth beast,
and beasts,
working miracles,

Da:7:7:
and of the other which came up,

shall stand afar off for the fear of her torment,
for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:
and slaves,
and iron,
These great beasts,
before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots:
which have received no kingdom as yet;
and precious stones,
But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom,
and precious stones,
and possess the kingdom for ever,
I came near unto one of them that stood by,
and the same horn made war with the saints,
and scarlet,
angels, Satan (the red dragon) and the Beast from the Pit.
and of pearls,
and a mouth speaking great things.Da:7:16-22:
and pearls!
that great city,
and stamped the residue with his feet;
behold,
Re:17:12:
The merchandise of gold,
which devoured,
but receive power as kings one hour with the beast.
dreadful and terrible,
it devoured and brake in pieces,
The merchants of these things,
Da:7:8:
and,
and of brass,
who have committed fornication and lived deliciously with her,
which are four,
in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man,
and decked with gold,
For they are the spirits of devils,
and before whom three fell;
alas,
and asked him the truth of all this.
So he told me,
And saying,
and silver,
Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast,
and it had ten horns.
even of that horn that had eyes,
and silk,
and made me know the interpretation of the things.
Until the Ancient of days came,
and oil,
which shall arise out of the earth.
And the kings of the earth,
Alas,
and strong exceedingly;
And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her;
when they shall see the smoke of her burning,
alas,
which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world,

weeping and wailing,
And cinnamon,
and lament for her,
even for ever and ever.
and a mouth that spake very great things,
that great city Babylon,
that was clothed in fine linen,
and thou shalt find them no more at all.
and chariots,
and sheep,
which were made rich by her,
And of the ten horns that were in his head,
Re:18:9-16:
and marble,
brake in pieces,
I considered the horns,
and stamped the residue with the feet of it:
and horses,
and purple,
 
MHz
#37
Quote: Originally Posted by DaSleeperView Post

FIFY

You should have stopped there.
 
Motar
#38
Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

You know of course yours is a false messiah? Don't you? Selfsame said so.

Who is Selfsame?
 
selfsame
#39
Quote: Originally Posted by MotarView Post

Who is Selfsame?

He means I am the selfsame.
He is a liar; I didn't say Jesus is false Messieh; I believe in Jesus the Messieh, while the Ugly Zionist; it is they who denied and their ancestors now also deny Jesus as the Messieh; they think that the Messieh has not come yet.

The Ugly Zionists do not believe in Jesus Christ, and accuse his mother, Virgin Mary, with adultery.

quran-ayat.com/conflicts/engl...st_the_Christ_ (external - login to view)

Quran 4: 156-157, which mean:
{156. And because of: that they [moreover] disbelieved [in Jesus], and that they uttered against Mary [his mother] a grave calumny.

157. And [We cursed them because of] their saying [in a way of boasting]: "We slew the Christ, Jesus son of Mary, the apostle of God."}
 
Motar
#40
Quote: Originally Posted by selfsameView Post

He means I am the selfsame.
He is a liar; I didn't say Jesus is false Messieh; I believe in Jesus the Messieh, while the Ugly Zionist; it is they who denied and their ancestors now also deny Jesus as the Messieh; they think that the Messieh has not come yet.

The Ugly Zionists do not believe in Jesus Christ, and accuse his mother, Virgin Mary, with adultery.

quran-ayat.com/conflicts/engl...st_the_Christ_ (external - login to view)

Quran 4: 156-157, which mean:
{156. And because of: that they [moreover] disbelieved [in Jesus], and that they uttered against Mary [his mother] a grave calumny.

157. And [We cursed them because of] their saying [in a way of boasting]: "We slew the Christ, Jesus son of Mary, the apostle of God."}

A grave calumny, indeed, selfsame.

Shame, taxslave : (
 
Cliffy
+1
#41


Quote: Originally Posted by MotarView Post

Who is Selfsame?

Selfsame used to haunt this place under the handle "eanassir". He was kicked off the forum for threatening another member with death threats. Why the admins let him stay is beyond me.
 
Jinentonix
+1
#42
Quote: Originally Posted by MotarView Post

"As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives, the disciples came to him privately. 'Tell us,' they said, 'when will this happen, and what will be the sign of your coming and of the end of the age?' Jesus answered: 'Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Messiah,’ and will deceive many.

At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘There he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See, I have told you ahead of time."

(Matthew 24:3-4, 23-24 NIV)


Key words of note: "many", "Messiah", "deceive", "false" and "signs and wonders". As with all counterfeits, the means of identification begins and ends with knowing the Legitimate One.

Huh, So a single source account that was written at least 80-90 years after this event supposedly happened is your incontrovertible proof?
C'mon dude. Quoting the Bible as your source of proof would be like me quoting the Lord of the Rings as proof that the Lord of the Rings was factual. At least we know Tolkien actually existed.
 
tay
#43
Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

the secret is in chi and Rho
you might note they are on the front of the sailboat in the windows XP logo
chi and rho is x and p BTW - the p being the root of "PIN"
the divine chi code
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chi_Rho (external - login to view)
the pin number, in a cashless society, well you can't buy or sell without it


And the Devil Beast promoting a cashless society is this guy......


Bills and coins, he says leave no ineluctable trace as they change hands.


MasterCard is at war in Canada, and it’s not against who you’d expect (external - login to view)

 
MHz
#44
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post




Selfsame used to haunt this place under the handle "eanassir". He was kicked off the forum for threatening another member with death threats. Why the admins let him stay is beyond me.

You certainly are an old time member and you set the tone right for this place. If you don't think like you then you have to be a total as*hole. It is quite normal for many members take part in the condemnation of a specific member based on their view of something and in this case being a Muslim would be enough of a reason to troll them on any thread they were on.
I've watched the same thing happen on any Christian themed thread where many members take on a single one where none of the 'attacks' actually are on the thread title topic.

'Take your meds.' is one that is used against me the most often. It offers nothing to the thread but it does serve to unite the 'commonality' on what they should be posting, slam the messenger. In most civilized places that is considered to be anti-social behavior but here it gets you a pat on the back in the form of a 'greenie'. It isn't very hard to come up with a better insult than that so it does serve a purpose in that respect.

As far as your pic goes perhaps you could point out who God is feeding these days in order to establish that He is intentionally withholding food from infants. If the number getting manna from heaven is zero then the ones in charge of making sure there are no starving infants would be the ones that are having several meals per day rather than it being God's duty to be feeding anybody when the instructions are pretty clear that 'believers' are supposed to be going that for 'their Master.

Jas:2:15:
If a brother or sister be naked,
and destitute of daily food,
Jas:2:16:
And one of you say unto them,
Depart in peace,
be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them not those things which are needful to the body;
what doth it profit?
Jas:2:17:
Even so faith,
if it hath not works,
is dead,
being alone.

M't:25:41-45:
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand,
Depart from me,
ye cursed,
into everlasting fire,
prepared for the devil and his angels:
For I was an hungred,
and ye gave me no meat:
I was thirsty,
and ye gave me no drink:
I was a stranger,
and ye took me not in:
naked,
and ye clothed me not:
sick,
and in prison,
and ye visited me not.
Then shall they also answer him,
saying,
Lord,
when saw we thee an hungred,
or athirst,
or a stranger,
or naked,
or sick,
or in prison,
and did not minister unto thee?
Then shall he answer them,
saying,
Verily I say unto you,
Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these,
ye did it not to me.

I suppose you could always claim to have missed these instructions.
 
Motar
#45
Quote: Originally Posted by JinentonixView Post

Huh, So a single source account that was written at least 80-90 years after this event supposedly happened is your incontrovertible proof?
C'mon dude. Quoting the Bible as your source of proof would be like me quoting the Lord of the Rings as proof that the Lord of the Rings was factual. At least we know Tolkien actually existed.

Not a proof, JT, but a warning as the spirit of deception is gaining in prominence. Don't be deceived.

Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Selfsame used to haunt this place under the handle "eanassir". He was kicked off the forum for threatening another member with death threats. Why the admins let him stay is beyond me.

If what you report is true, Cliffy, then it would appear in his current discourse that eanassir/selfsame has made some progress in his conduct and the spirit of Christ has moved him in a desirable direction : )
Last edited by Motar; Jul 9th, 2016 at 11:30 AM..
 
Cliffy
#46
Quote: Originally Posted by MotarView Post

Not a proof, JT, but a warning as the spirit of deception is gaining in prominence. Don't be deceived.



If what you report is true, Cliffy, then it would appear in his current discourse that eanassir/selfsame has made some progress in his conduct and the spirit of Christ has moved him in a desirable direction : )

It took him a few years before he lost it last time.
 
Ludlow
#47
Quote: Originally Posted by MotarView Post

Not a proof, JT, but a warning as the spirit of deception is gaining in prominence. Don't be deceived.



If what you report is true, Cliffy, then it would appear in his current discourse that eanassir/selfsame has made some progress in his conduct and the spirit of Christ has moved him in a desirable direction : )

kinda remind me of Jan Crouch.
 
Cliffy
#48
 
petros
#49
5 27 is stand alone. 28 29 and 30 aren't related to 27 ya f-cking loser.
 
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