The “sin lists” in the NT condemn all habitual sinners!


JamesM
#1
Throughout the Bible, God views sin as indicative of rebellion, disobedience, and unbelief.
Those born-again have been given a new nature by which they are no longer slaves of sin!
And they have been given the Holy Spirit, who has come to help them overcome their sins!
Compared to the OT, God’s born-again people have NO excuse for failure to be overcomers!

1 Corinthians 6:8-10, TLB
“But, instead, you yourselves are the ones who do wrong, cheating others, even your own brothers. Don’t you know that those doing such things have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who live immoral lives, who are idol worshipers, adulterers or homosexuals — will have no share in his Kingdom. Neither will thieves or greedy people, drunkards, slanderers, or robbers.”
• No habitual sinner will have any part in the Kingdom of God.

Galatians 5:18-24, TLB
“When you are guided by the Holy Spirit, you need no longer force yourself to obey Jewish laws. But when you follow your own wrong inclinations, your lives will produce these evil results: impure thoughts, eagerness for lustful pleasure, idolatry, spiritism, hatred and fighting, jealousy and anger, constant effort to get the best for yourself … and there will be wrong doctrine, envy, murder, drunkenness, wild parties, and all that sort of thing. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God. … Those who belong to Christ have nailed their natural evil desires to his cross and crucified them there.”
• No one who lives/walks in the flesh will inherit the Kingdom of God.

Ephesians 5:3-7, TLB
“Let there be no sex sin, impurity or greed among you. Let no one be able to accuse you of any such things. Dirty stories, foul talk, and coarse jokes — these are not for you. Instead, remind each other of God’s goodness, and be thankful. You can be sure of this: the Kingdom of Christ and of God will never belong to anyone who is impure or greedy, for a greedy person is really an idol worshiper — he loves and worships the good things of this life more than God. Don’t be fooled by those who try to excuse these sins, for the terrible wrath of God is upon all those who do them. Don’t even associate with such people.”
• No Kingdom of God for them, and are those receiving God’s wrath going to heaven?

Colossians 3:5-8, TLB
“Away then with sinful, earthly things; deaden the evil desires lurking within you; have nothing to do with sexual sin, impurity, lust, and shameful desires; don’t worship the good things of life, for that is idolatry. God’s terrible anger is upon those who do such things. You used to do them when your life was still part of this world; but now is the time to cast off and throw away all these rotten garments of anger, hatred, cursing, and dirty language.”
3:6, NKJV – “Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience”
• Will anyone who receives God’s terrible anger and wrath be going to heaven?

Revelation 21:7-8, TLB
“Everyone who conquers (is victorious, overcomes) will inherit all these blessings, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But cowards who turn back from following me, and those who are unfaithful to me, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those conversing with demons, and idol worshipers and all liars — their doom is in the Lake that burns with fire and sulphur. This is the Second Death.”
• 8 examples of habitual sinners who will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

Revelation 22:14-15, TLB
“Blessed forever are all who are washing their robes, to have the right to enter in through the gates of the city (the New Jerusalem) and to eat the fruit from the Tree of Life. Outside the city are those who have strayed away from God, and the sorcerers and the immoral and murderers and idolaters, and all who love to lie, and do so.”
22:14-15, NKJV – “Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and
practices a lie.”
• 6 examples of habitual sinners who will not be allowed to enter the city of the New Jerusalem.
 
taxslave
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Oh look another gawd botherer to straighten out. Or did one of our other believers change names?

The simple solution to all this nonsense is to not believe in myths and then you don't have to worry about eternal damnation or pick a cult like Catholics where you can sin all you want as long as you blow a preacher before you croak and all is forgiven.
 
Dexter Sinister
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#3
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

Throughout the Bible, God views sin as indicative of rebellion, disobedience, and unbelief.
Those born-again have been given a new nature by which they are no longer slaves of sin!
And they have been given the Holy Spirit, who has come to help them overcome their sins!
Compared to the OT, God’s born-again people have NO excuse for failure to be overcomers!

Why didn't god just create us the way he wanted us to be in the first place? You must believe that he knowingly created us flawed, knowing exactly what the consequences would be (omniscient and omnipotent, remember?), yet somehow it's our fault. I'm not buying it, that looks like a setup to me.
 
eh1eh
#4
Sin is a state of mind.
 
JamesM
#5
It's just a simple matter of believing the Scriptures, or not believing them!
 
eh1eh
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#6
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

It's just a simple matter of believing the Scriptures, or not believing them!

Exactly. Although they're not really 'believable' now are they?
You know, with all that science we've been doing since the dark ages.
 
MHz
#7
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

Throughout the Bible, God views sin as indicative of rebellion, disobedience, and unbelief.
Those born-again have been given a new nature by which they are no longer slaves of sin!
And they have been given the Holy Spirit, who has come to help them overcome their sins!
Compared to the OT, God’s born-again people have NO excuse for failure to be overcomers!

There are no people alive today or for about the last 1900 years who have had the baptism of the Holy Spirit like the Disciples or the people in Acts:2. It's a catch phrase that has no actual foundation or spiritual basis. People since 100AD have been readers, nothing less and nothing more. I doubt many Christians today even know what a sin is.

M't:5:28:
But I say unto you,
That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.

Jas:2:10:
For whosoever shall keep the whole law,
and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
Jas:2:11:
For he that said,
Do not commit adultery,
said also,
Do not kill.
Now if thou commit no adultery,
yet if thou kill,
thou art become a transgressor of the law.

Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

1 Corinthians 6:8-10, TLB
“But, instead, you yourselves are the ones who do wrong, cheating others, even your own brothers. Don’t you know that those doing such things have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who live immoral lives, who are idol worshipers, adulterers or homosexuals — will have no share in his Kingdom. Neither will thieves or greedy people, drunkards, slanderers, or robbers.”
• No habitual sinner will have any part in the Kingdom of God.

The Kingdom of God doesn't start until the day the 7th trump sounds and that brings on the 7 vials which causes all sinners to die and right after that is the resurrection of the ones in Re:20:4 as well as the repented Gentiles who enter the Kingdom of God without dying first.

Re:11:15:
And the seventh angel sounded;
and there were great voices in heaven,
saying,
The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord,
and of his Christ;
and he shall reign for ever and ever.

Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

Galatians 5:18-24, TLB
“When you are guided by the Holy Spirit, you need no longer force yourself to obey Jewish laws. But when you follow your own wrong inclinations, your lives will produce these evil results: impure thoughts, eagerness for lustful pleasure, idolatry, spiritism, hatred and fighting, jealousy and anger, constant effort to get the best for yourself … and there will be wrong doctrine, envy, murder, drunkenness, wild parties, and all that sort of thing. Let me tell you again, as I have before, that anyone living that sort of life will not inherit the Kingdom of God. … Those who belong to Christ have nailed their natural evil desires to his cross and crucified them there.”
• No one who lives/walks in the flesh will inherit the Kingdom of God.

The 1000 year reign is the start of the Kingdom of God on earth and all the people alive on the first day are glorified and that means they are of the 2nd birth and that means they are immortal and sinless according to the new law that is given in Re:21. The 10 Commandments is the law for sinners, when there are no sinners anymore(forever) the law for forgiveness of sins is put aside.

Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

Ephesians 5:3-7, TLB
“Let there be no sex sin, impurity or greed among you. Let no one be able to accuse you of any such things. Dirty stories, foul talk, and coarse jokes — these are not for you. Instead, remind each other of God’s goodness, and be thankful. You can be sure of this: the Kingdom of Christ and of God will never belong to anyone who is impure or greedy, for a greedy person is really an idol worshiper — he loves and worships the good things of this life more than God. Don’t be fooled by those who try to excuse these sins, for the terrible wrath of God is upon all those who do them. Don’t even associate with such people.”
• No Kingdom of God for them, and are those receiving God’s wrath going to heaven?

The verse below puts all sinners in the grave while still 'awake' so they are in hell. They mock Satan during that time and when Satan and the other fallen angels are released in order to be sent to the fiery lake the people in hell stay there and they are resurrected at the Great White Throne event. Hebrews:12 is an expansion on that event and it is a time of chastisement and forgiveness as going to the grave is how many people have their many sins forgiven. Isaiah:65 is also about that same group that is called 'the rest' in Re:20.

Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

Colossians 3:5-8, TLB
“Away then with sinful, earthly things; deaden the evil desires lurking within you; have nothing to do with sexual sin, impurity, lust, and shameful desires; don’t worship the good things of life, for that is idolatry. God’s terrible anger is upon those who do such things. You used to do them when your life was still part of this world; but now is the time to cast off and throw away all these rotten garments of anger, hatred, cursing, and dirty language.”
3:6, NKJV – “Because of these things the wrath of God is coming upon the sons of disobedience”
• Will anyone who receives God’s terrible anger and wrath be going to heaven?

Not right away bit they are there for the Great White Throne so they do make an appearance and they are the ones given water by God in Re:21 and they are then able to enter New Jerusalem before Re:22 has the city leaving the 3rd Heaven to land on the new earth. All of Adam and Eve's children are there as well as the ones that dies in the flood as they are the ones that the sea gives up at that event.

Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

Revelation 21:7-8, TLB
“Everyone who conquers (is victorious, overcomes) will inherit all these blessings, and I will be his God and he will be my son. But cowards who turn back from following me, and those who are unfaithful to me, and the corrupt, and murderers, and the immoral, and those conversing with demons, and idol worshipers and all liars — their doom is in the Lake that burns with fire and sulphur. This is the Second Death.”
• 8 examples of habitual sinners who will be thrown into the Lake of Fire.

No people ever make it to the lake of fire as that event is over before the GWT event and Isaiah:65 has them building houses in the new earth. The Fiery lake id for immortals like fallen angels, men do not become immortal until the 1,000 year reign and Christ is taking care of them so none fall into sin. If they did they would not be taken to Mount Sion (the 3rd heaven).

Isa:51:6:
Lift up your eyes to the heavens,
and look upon the earth beneath:
for the heavens shall vanish away like smoke,
and the earth shall wax old like a garment,
and they that dwell therein shall die in like manner:
but my salvation shall be for ever,
and my righteousness shall not be abolished.

Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

Revelation 22:14-15, TLB
“Blessed forever are all who are washing their robes, to have the right to enter in through the gates of the city (the New Jerusalem) and to eat the fruit from the Tree of Life. Outside the city are those who have strayed away from God, and the sorcerers and the immoral and murderers and idolaters, and all who love to lie, and do so.”
22:14-15, NKJV – “Blessed are those who do His commandments, that they may have the right to the tree of life, and may enter through the gates into the city. But outside are dogs and sorcerers and sexually immoral and murderers and idolaters, and whoever loves and
practices a lie.”
• 6 examples of habitual sinners who will not be allowed to enter the city of the New Jerusalem.

New Jerusalem will become 'home' for all the people who are alive on earth during the 1,000 year reign once it lands on the new earth. These people enter new Jerusalem without going through the GWT but the ones who enter it from the GWT leave the City when it lands on the new earth and they are the ones building house outside of the City in the new earth. The reference to Jerusalem in Isa:65 is a reference to NJ rather than the one we have on earth.

Another group that won't be part of the 1,000 year reign are those who spread a false doctrine and saying that some men end up in the fiery lake is as flawed as it gets.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Oh look another gawd botherer to straighten out. Or did one of our other believers change names?

The simple solution to all this nonsense is to not believe in myths and then you don't have to worry about eternal damnation or pick a cult like Catholics where you can sin all you want as long as you blow a preacher before you croak and all is forgiven.

You can't even straighten yourself out. lol
Are you a saved Catholic?

Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter SinisterView Post

Why didn't god just create us the way he wanted us to be in the first place? You must believe that he knowingly created us flawed, knowing exactly what the consequences would be (omniscient and omnipotent, remember?), yet somehow it's our fault. I'm not buying it, that looks like a setup to me.

How would you make a perfected earth (and heaven) if it was created perfect right at the start? This earth is a seed bank for the start of the new earth and it is for all flesh rather than just man. People arrive in NJ and the other flesh of birds, fish, and animals are resurrected as the living waters exit NJ. The 2/3 of the Holy Angels also enter their new heaven and they remain there.

2Co:12:2:
I knew a man in Christ above fourteen years ago,
(whether in the body,
I cannot tell;
or whether out of the body,
I cannot tell: God knoweth
such an one caught up to the third heaven.

Heb:12:22:
But ye are come unto mount Sion,
and unto the city of the living God,
the heavenly Jerusalem,
and to an innumerable company of angels,

Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

It's just a simple matter of believing the Scriptures, or not believing them!

With this crowd being able to understand what they have read is a hurdle none of them have been able to get over. That is why their replies are as stupid as it gets.

Quote: Originally Posted by eh1ehView Post

Exactly. Although they're not really 'believable' now are they?
You know, with all that science we've been doing since the dark ages.

Like global warming?
 
Ludlow
#8
Well he does present megaloon another excuse to post a volumn of nonsense again.

Here's a verse you may. I'm sure you remember, "you cross land and sea to make one convert, and you make them twofold more a child of hell than you are yourself"
 
MHz
#9
A 'volume' eh? Like I said, a verse or two is enough to throw this place into chaos, and then you show up to confirm it. It is the stupid people that can't read the words, that would be you in case you find that confusing. You have no idea what you would be agreeing to or rejecting. You should understand that nobody envies you but even that is too much for your intellect.
 
Cliffy
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Ludlow
#11
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

A 'volume' eh? Like I said, a verse or two is enough to throw this place into chaos, and then you show up to confirm it. It is the stupid people that can't read the words, that would be you in case you find that confusing. You have no idea what you would be agreeing to or rejecting. You should understand that nobody envies you but even that is too much for your intellect.

aw blow it out yer ayce Willard. Try and make sense now and then with your fables.
 
Tecumsehsbones
#12
Quote: Originally Posted by eh1ehView Post

Sin is a state of mind.

An habitual one for me.
 
Ludlow
#13
Quote: Originally Posted by TecumsehsbonesView Post

An habitual one for me.

you a heathern
 
Tecumsehsbones
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#14
Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

you a heathern

Well, yeah. Comes with the paint and feathers.
 
darkbeaver
#15
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter SinisterView Post

Why didn't god just create us the way he wanted us to be in the first place? You must believe that he knowingly created us flawed, knowing exactly what the consequences would be (omniscient and omnipotent, remember?), yet somehow it's our fault. I'm not buying it, that looks like a setup to me.

That's an astute observation Dr Sinister. These legions of god freaks fail to understand or even doubt that God has created us exactly as we appear and no less nor any more. It is God hisself what has made what we see. These doubters do not know the meaning of omnipotence. They believe we are not formed perfected in our assignments in his service and do not serve to his rule.
 
Cliffy
+1
#16
Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

you a heathern

I prefer Born Again Pagan myself.
 
Ludlow
+1
#17
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

That's an astute observation Dr Sinister. These legions of god freaks fail to understand or even doubt that God has created us exactly as we appear and no less nor any more. It is God hisself what has made what we see. These doubters do not know the meaning of omnipotence. They believe we are not formed perfected in our assignments in his service and do not serve to his rule.

Aheyheymayan glowry hallelurya brutha bungchute.
 
darkbeaver
+1
#18
Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

Aheyheymayan glowry hallelurya brutha bungchute.

Bless you Ludlow, the meek shall inherit, expect good things going forward in your trip through the valley of the shadow of death. I expect you will make it, cuz yer too stoopid to know where you is.
 
Ludlow
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#19
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

bless you ludlow, the meek shall inherit, expect good things going forward in your trip through the valley of the shadow of death. I expect you will make it, cuz yer too stoopid to know where you is.

lol.....
 
Cliffy
#20
Is this like a love/hate thing you two have going on?
 
darkbeaver
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

lol.....

Is it warm where you live? Is it dry and warm and is thier sand cactus oaisis long warm pass out any where climate and terrain? Get up with the sun perfect boiled eggg days kinda state? My lifes work is the conquest of Arizone or New Mexico I'll stop with those two, if I have to, but ultimately the whole warm thing close to the beaches is mine. Deserts, I just got to visit one.
 
EagleSmack
#22
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Meet Ireland’s Witches- The Secrets Behind Witchcraft in Ireland



The Witch in the middle looks like Hillary Clinton. Go figure.
 
MHz
#23
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

That's an astute observation Dr Sinister. These legions of god freaks fail to understand or even doubt that God has created us exactly as we appear and no less nor any more. It is God hisself what has made what we see. These doubters do not know the meaning of omnipotence. They believe we are not formed perfected in our assignments in his service and do not serve to his rule.

If God created everybody perfect how could mankind be divided into some having a bit of an advantage by being alive for the 1,000 years while the much larger group has to wait until that time period is over before they receive the same rewards? That marks the difference between those that are called 'great' and those that are called the 'least' while being in the same Kingdom of God.

M't:5:19:
Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments,
and shall teach men so,
he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven:
but whosoever shall do and teach them,
the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
 
Ludlow
#24
Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaverView Post

Is it warm where you live? Is it dry and warm and is thier sand cactus oaisis long warm pass out any where climate and terrain? Get up with the sun perfect boiled eggg days kinda state? My lifes work is the conquest of Arizone or New Mexico I'll stop with those two, if I have to, but ultimately the whole warm thing close to the beaches is mine. Deserts, I just got to visit one.

I'm in Nevada DB. High desert.
 
darkbeaver
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by EagleSmackView Post

The Witch in the middle looks like Hillary Clinton. Go figure.

Yer not kidding, that thing travels on the broom, Satans little sister, can you appreciate what the progression of her offspring might entails, you,ve read all those books man, they were talkin about her. Not of this world she is we hoped, but there it is. fear and loathing, hide in woods, shivers up the backbone, shakin all over.
 
MHz
#26
Probably has a room at Mabel's Wh*re House
 
Ludlow
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#27
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Probably has a room at Mabel's Wh*re House

Does Mabel give you the mental case discount?

...
 
Dexter Sinister
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#28
Quote: Originally Posted by JamesMView Post

It's just a simple matter of believing the Scriptures, or not believing them!

I don't, and neither do you, really, you're just cherry picking things that suit what you want to believe. If you doubt that claim, try living your life according to the 613 prescriptions for correct behaviour given in the first five books of the Old Testament. You'll need a good lawyer, you're likely to be arrested within a few days, unless some other fundie loon kills you first for wearing a shirt made of a cotton-polyester blend, or for working on a Sunday, or some other equally imaginary offense the OT prescribes death for.
 
Ludlow
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#29
Quote: Originally Posted by Dexter SinisterView Post

I don't, and neither do you, really, you're just cherry picking things that suit what you want to believe. If you doubt that claim, try living your life according to the 613 prescriptions for correct behaviour given in the first five books of the Old Testament. You'll need a good lawyer, you're likely to be arrested within a few days, unless some other fundie loon kills you first for wearing a shirt made of a cotton-polyester blend, or for working on a Sunday, or some other equally imaginary offense the OT prescribes death for.

It is a fairly accurate statement that most Christians have not read their bibles from cover to cover. If they were familiar with all 613 laws or "mitzvahs" of the Torah they may develop a fresh perspective. But most , like this one probably prefers to just listen to his pastor and leave the studying to others. Amen, Hallelurya.
 
Dexter Sinister
#30
I'm sure you're right, and there are passages in the New Testament that can be read as meaning the OT laws are still in force, and that they've been superceded by the new covenant Jesus brought. Take your pick, there's biblical support for both positions.
 

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