The Gospel of Jesusís Wife

tay
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King called the business-card-size papyrus ďThe Gospel of Jesusís Wife.Ē


But even without that provocative title, it would have shaken the world of biblical scholarship. Centuries of Christian tradition are bound up in whether the scrap is authentic or, as a growing group of scholars contends, an outrageous modern fake: Jesusís bachelorhood helps form the basis for priestly celibacy, and his all-male cast of apostles has long been cited to justify limits on womenís religious leadership. In the Roman Catholic Church in particular, the New Testament is seen as divine revelation handed down through a long line of menóJesus, the 12 apostles, the Church fathers, the popes, and finally the priests who bring Godís word to the parish pews today.


Did Jesus Have a Wife? - The Atlantic (external - login to view)
 
MHz
#2
Is the original version too hard to understand?
 
Ludlow
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Is the original version too hard to understand?

what is the original version?
 
MHz
#4
You having a hard time doing your own research? This is from the 1611KJV preface, a document I'm sure is foreign to you.

"If you aske what they had before them, truely it was the Hebrew text of the Olde Testament, the Greeke of the New."
 
Ludlow
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

You having a hard time doing your own research? This is from the 1611KJV preface, a document I'm sure is foreign to you.

"If you aske what they had before them, truely it was the Hebrew text of the Olde Testament, the Greeke of the New."

I studied the development of the English bible several years ago . You gave your answer. Thanks it's what I expected. Now take your pills I've already taken mine. .
 
Walter
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#6
So many Christophobes.
 
Ludlow
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

So many Christophobes.

Take your pills Walter you're making no sense.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by WalterView Post

So many Christophobes.

Do you mean compared to as*holes like you?

Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

I studied the development of the English bible several years ago . You gave your answer. Thanks it's what I expected. Now take your pills I've already taken mine. .

That's well and fine but what you should have been studying is what all the words actually mean.
 
Ludlow
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Do you mean compared to as*holes like you?


That's well and fine but what you should have been studying is what all the words actually mean.

You mean like Vines dictionary of New Testament words ? Yeah I read that too. What else should I have done great teacher of enlightenment? Sage of all wisdom and knowledge.
 
Motar
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Quote: Originally Posted by tayView Post

Did Jesus Have a Wife? - The Atlantic (external - login to view)

The marriage metaphor illustrating the relationship between God and His people spans the biblical record, tay.

"As a young man marries a young woman, so will your Builder marry you; as a bridegroom rejoices over his bride, so will your God rejoice over you." (Isaiah 62:5 NIV)

"Go and proclaim in the hearing of Jerusalem: “This is what the Lord says:‘I remember the devotion of your youth, how as a bride you loved me and followed me through the wilderness, through a land not sown." (Jeremiah 2:2 NIV)


All four of the gospel records continue the metaphor.

"At that time the kingdom of heaven will be like ten virgins who took their lamps and went out to meet the bridegroom." (Matthew 25:1 NIV)

"Jesus answered, 'How can the guests of the bridegroom fast while he is with them? They cannot, so long as they have him with them." (Mark 2:19 NIV)

"But the time will come when the bridegroom will be taken from them; in those days they will fast." (Luke 5:35 NIV)

"The bride belongs to the bridegroom. The friend who attends the bridegroom waits and listens for him, and is full of joy when he hears the bridegroom’s voice. That joy is mine, and it is now complete." (John 3:29 NIV)


The explanation of the metaphor is given in the Revelation.

"I saw the Holy City, the new Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God, prepared as a bride beautifully dressed for her husband." (Revelation 2:21 NIV)

"One of the seven angels who had the seven bowls full of the seven last plagues came and said to me, 'Come, I will show you the bride, the wife of the Lamb.' And he carried me away in the Spirit to a mountain great and high, and showed me the Holy City, Jerusalem, coming down out of heaven from God." (Revelation 21:9-10 NIV)
 
MHz
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'And he carried me away in the Spirit'

His wife is the person mentioned that will be standing beside Him as New Jerusalem descends to the new earth. The Beloved Disciple is the Scribe who wrote the Gospel of John (the Baptist) and Revelations so that is who Jesus's bride will be and the rest of mankind is invited to the wedding.

If you fools can't figure out a simple concept of who a 'wife' is how in the hell do you expect to be right about anything you conjure up in your deluded minds.

Joh:11:5:
Now Jesus loved Martha,
and her sister,
and Lazarus.

Joh:13:23:
Now there was leaning on Jesus' bosom one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.

Lu:10:40:
But Martha was cumbered about much serving,
and came to him,
and said,
Lord,
dost thou not care that my sister hath left me to serve alone?
bid her therefore that she help me.

Lu:10:41:
And Jesus answered and said unto her,
Martha,
Martha,
thou art careful and troubled about many things:
 
Ludlow
+1
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Y'all can't know shyt unless you were there. All you have is hearsay from people trying to create a religion. I like to think that if the man was real, he had that one someone to love. Mary Magdalen maybe?
 
selfsame
#13
The Zionists hate Jesus Christ and Prophet Mohammed; this is so obvious.

The grandfathers and the grandsons are alike in this hatred.
 
taxslave
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Sounds like Jeasus and all his buddies were gay.

Which would explain a lot.
 
selfsame
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Why is this? They should have assissted them in their mission of inviting people to God alone.

The outcome was the regression of the Zionists after the Christ and after Prophet Mohammed; the Zionists were discarded to the garbage.

Their next regression will be by the Mahdi, after whom they will not prevail once again till Doomsday.
Last edited by selfsame; Jun 19th, 2016 at 01:53 PM..
 
taxslave
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Quote: Originally Posted by selfsameView Post

Why is this? They should have assissted them in their mission of inviting people to God alone.

The outcome was the regression of the Zionists after the Christ and after Prophet Mohammed; the Zionists were discarded to the garbage.

Speaking of garbage look who just showed up.
 
selfsame
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The Christ certainly has his wives in Paradise (or heaven); Jesus was a true man, as was Prophet Mohammed and the rest of God's apostles.

The puzzling thing about Jesus Christ:
He did not marry here on earth: because he was created in the womb of Virgin Mary without father .. why is this?

His father is in heaven; his father it seems was a righteous man and he is in Paradise. JC had been on one of the previous planets: he was born ordinarily by a mother (other than Virgin Mary), and by a father, then JC had died and his father and mother had died, and were judged in the previous Judgment Day. So he was admitted to Paradise and was with the angels one of the high rank angels brought close to God.

Then God created the present solar system and the present earth, then God commanded JC to go down to the earth and to enter the body of the fetus created in the womb of Virgin Mary; so he entered and was the Christ, born miraculously without father.

So his title is the Word of God: because he was created without father by God's word: Be, and he was as God wanted.
And his title is the Rouh of God: because he was the servant of God, one of the angels of the kind of Rough, like Gabriel.

So he did not marry, because he should not have seed and offspring.
It may be this was the reason why his mission was quick and fast.
God is All-Knowing.
Last edited by selfsame; Jun 19th, 2016 at 01:50 PM..
 
Cliffy
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Jesus was married and his progeny was the Holy Grail, not a cup. The cup is symbolic of his wife's womb. By virtue of genetics, many thousands or millions of people would carry his genes (if he actually existed, of course). I really don't get why people still believe this patriarchal BS because Life comes from the feminine. The masculine principle cannot create Life. All the Abrahamic religions have got it all back asswards. If they knew anything about history, they would know that it was the patriarchy that destroyed the divine feminine principle for purely political reasons; the control of the masses. If you look back in history, you will see exactly when the masculine usurped the Feminine.

You can study the scriptures all you want, but unless you understand it in the context of history and the divine feminine, you are barking up the wrong tree. The male principle has been nothing but a sperm donor because the Creative Force has always been Feminine. The perfect metaphor can be found in the Preying Mantis; the female has to bite of the head of the male in order that he donate his sperm. Chew on that for a bit.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Sounds like Jeasus and all his buddies were gay.

Which would explain a lot.

You being gay would explain your comment as you don't seem to be able to view some men as being together and sex is not on the menu. Way to give up your secret desires fag.

Quote: Originally Posted by taxslaveView Post

Speaking of garbage look who just showed up.

. . . and an Islamophobic to boot. Is that because they are anti-gay as a rule. (unless they are radicalized like the ones in the UK and the US)
 
Ludlow
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

You being gay would explain your comment as you don't seem to be able to view some men as being together and sex is not on the menu. Way to give up your secret desires fag.


. . . and an Islamophobic to boot. Is that because they are anti-gay as a rule. (unless they are radicalized like the ones in the UK and the US)

You don't know megadummy

Quote: Originally Posted by selfsameView Post

Why is this? They should have assissted them in their mission of inviting people to God alone.

The outcome was the regression of the Zionists after the Christ and after Prophet Mohammed; the Zionists were discarded to the garbage.

Their next regression will be by the Mahdi, after whom they will not prevail once again till Doomsday.

What does the pervert mewhock,hock,hammed have to do with anything selfshlock.?
 
MHz
#21
Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

Y'all can't know shyt unless you were there. All you have is hearsay from people trying to create a religion. I like to think that if the man was real, he had that one someone to love. Mary Magdalen maybe?

Why not just use the book to figure it out? Mary M. was a converted sinner, Mary of Bethany was a disciple of John the Baptist when they met and she was a companion of His since John sent her to report on what Jesus was doing. That gives them 3 1/2 years as being together and her role at the time of the cross increased and Mary M. had a few bit parts. Try using information like that before you ask questions that have no real value or merit to begin with.

In John:11 it was Mary B. that made Jesus cry in public, you need a lot of pull to be able to do that. Care to hear long version that includes why she was really pissed off at Him?? It's all in the book so why is it being hidden from your eyes as God likes to clear up issues like that for people he likes. That doesn't seem to apply to most people at this site, including you as being almost at the front of the line. Why shouldn't a believer look forward to the day you become a believer. (being sent to the grave is the result of that day and that makes you humble and that is the first step in understanding who God is and what He can do (easily).

Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

You don't know megadummy

I do know you have sh*t for brains when it comes to reading comprehension of even the shortest verse, and then you act proud that it is that was so how can anybody beat that as being being the very definition of 'stupid beyond belief'.
The ones that fear gays the most are closet fags. Any idea why there were so many females at the gay bar in Florida or were they all lesbians?
 
Cliffy
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

In John:11 it was Mary B. that made Jesus cry in public, you need a lot of pull to be able to do that. Care to hear long version that includes why she was really pissed off at Him?? It's all in the book so why is it being hidden from your eyes as God likes to clear up issues like that for people he likes. That doesn't seem to apply to most people at this site, including you as being almost at the front of the line. Why shouldn't a believer look forward to the day you become a believer. (being sent to the grave is the result of that day and that makes you humble and that is the first step in understanding who God is and what He can do (easily).

Only an egotistical loon would say that he had any understanding of what god is. You cannot know what truth, reality or god is by reading a book about it any more than you can know a person by reading their autobiography. The world has 7 billion people and your perspective is just one. That you think you know anything more than anybody else is just plain narcissism. You have no idea what humility is.
 
Ludlow
+1
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Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Why not just use the book to figure it out? Mary M. was a converted sinner, Mary of Bethany was a disciple of John the Baptist when they met and she was a companion of His since John sent her to report on what Jesus was doing. That gives them 3 1/2 years as being together and her role at the time of the cross increased and Mary M. had a few bit parts. Try using information like that before you ask questions that have no real value or merit to begin with.
In John:11 it was Mary B. that made Jesus cry in public, you need a lot of pull to be able to do that. Care to hear long version that includes why she was really pissed off at Him?? It's all in the book so why is it being hidden from your eyes as God likes to clear up issues like that for people he likes. That doesn't seem to apply to most people at this site, including you as being almost at the front of the line. Why shouldn't a believer look forward to the day you become a believer. (being sent to the grave is the result of that day and that makes you humble and that is the first step in understanding who God is and what He can do (easily).
I do know you have sh*t for brains when it comes to reading comprehension of even the shortest verse, and then you act proud that it is that was so how can anybody beat that as being being the very definition of 'stupid beyond belief'.
The ones that fear gays the most are closet fags. Any idea why there were so many females at the gay bar in...

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Your books are hearsay Megaloon. Haven't I made that clear? Get the wax out ye ears and the shyt out ye skull.
 
MHz
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Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Only an egotistical loon would say that he had any understanding of what god is. You cannot know what truth, reality or god is by reading a book about it any more than you can know a person by reading their autobiography. The world has 7 billion people and your perspective is just one. That you think you know anything more than anybody else is just plain narcissism. You have no idea what humility is.

Just becaus I know more about God (through the Bible) than you and the collective here doesn't mean I'm not a humble person. It just means you guys, for all your self back patting know nothing at all. You think God is an as*hole (as does Dex) so when He comes and kills you by fire you have your version of God and you will probably bitch about it even then. Just no pleasing some people I guess.

You have only yourself to thank for being on the wrong side of the line.

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchveje4IrmSVJI



Quote: Originally Posted by LudlowView Post

Your books are hearsay Megaloon. Haven't I made that clear? Get the wax out ye ears and the shyt out ye skull.

Actually you only said you 'investigated' the English Bibles. For your information only 1 of them is accurate, that is the one you probably understand the least. (by God's own hand due to your despising Him rather than it being due to anything else)
 
Cliffy
#25
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Just becaus I know more about God (through the Bible) than you and the collective here doesn't mean I'm not a humble person. It just means you guys, for all your self back patting know nothing at all. You think God is an as*hole (as does Dex) so when He comes and kills you by fire you have your version of God and you will probably bitch about it even then. Just no pleasing some people I guess.

You have only yourself to thank for being on the wrong side of the line.

Yes it does. You wouldn't know humility if it bite you on the face. How many other holy books have yo read? How many people of other faiths have you talked to? How many other cultures have you participated with? If you only know the bible, then you have lived with tunnel vision all your life. There is a big wide world out there. You need to get out of your basement and experience it.



...or truth.
 
MHz
#26
Quote: Originally Posted by CliffyView Post

Yes it does. You wouldn't know humility if it bite you on the face. How many other holy books have yo read? How many people of other faiths have you talked to? How many other cultures have you participated with? If you only know the bible, then you have lived with tunnel vision all your life. There is a big wide world out there. You need to get out of your basement and experience it.
...or truth.

At least I can read a passage and tell you what it means in the overall context of the book and you can't so which one of us should be humble you fu*king retard.
 
Ludlow
#27
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

Just becaus I know more about God (through the Bible) than you and the collective here doesn't mean I'm not a humble person. It just means you guys, for all your self back patting know nothing at all. You think God is an as*hole (as does Dex) so when He comes and kills you by fire you have your version of God and you will probably bitch about it even then. Just no pleasing some people I guess.

You have only yourself to thank for being on the wrong side of the line.

httpwwwyoutubecomwatchveje4IrmSVJI




Actually you only said you 'investigated' the English Bibles. For your information only 1 of them is accurate, that is the one you probably understand the least. (by God's own hand due to your despising Him rather than it being due to anything else)

Let me take a wild guess, the pervert King James version of course. Figures.
 
MHz
#28
If you did your investigation why do you have to take a wild guess? If that shows the quality of your 'investigation' then what hope is there that any of your other investigations are any more valid or accurate.
 
Cliffy
#29
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

At least I can read a passage and tell you what it means in the overall context of the book and you can't so which one of us should be humble you fu*king retard.

So you can read a passage from an ancient text that has been mistranslated, misinterpreted and misunderstood for 2000 years and you think that makes you better than everybody else. And you don't see how that makes you an egotistical asshat? Interesting.
 
Ludlow
#30
Quote: Originally Posted by MHzView Post

If you did your investigation why do you have to take a wild guess? If that shows the quality of your 'investigation' then what hope is there that any of your other investigations are any more valid or accurate.

We can only hope that your medication is accurate. Take your pills group therapy at 7pm.
 

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