Do the prime minister and cabinet have too much power

mikel542

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So just in general DOES THE PRIME MINISTER AND CABINET, BACKED BY A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS HAVE TOO MUCH POWER IN THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT?
 

Cliffy

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Yes and no. Yes because he/she can run roughshod over everyone and no because they still have to bow to the wishes of their puppet masters.
 

damngrumpy

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The Prime Ministers office has gathered more power over the last few decades.
Sometimes there are emergencies like the FLQ crisis which saw the beginning
of the consolidation. Every Prime Minister since has misused that power ever
since. I still think there should be a strong PMO though. If we have the right PM
it is a good bully pulpit, the only problem is we are confronted with a series of
misfits, but then we have always had misfits in the PM's office.
McKenzie King for example used to get messages from his dead mother and his
dog. There are other strange cases as well, but that is part of the Canadian
way.
 

Dexter Sinister

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So just in general DOES THE PRIME MINISTER AND CABINET, BACKED BY A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS HAVE TOO MUCH POWER IN THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT?
Yes, but it doesn't need a majority in the House, it just needs a fragmented, frightened, and ineffective opposition.
 

jjaycee98

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So just in general DOES THE PRIME MINISTER AND CABINET, BACKED BY A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS HAVE TOO MUCH POWER IN THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT?

Certainly not like the USA President does-with the "VETO" If they were to get a real change in the numbers in the November vote, then they could conceiveably have a stone walled Government-one where nothing would be passed by the House or Senate and the President could just Veto anything that was proposed and passed the vote.
 

Bar Sinister

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It all depends on the sort of majority a Prime Minister possesses. The way that the Canadian government has evolved the party that finds itself with an absolute majority has a virtual four to five year dictatorship if it wants to use its power the the nth degree. However, Canada's history shows that governments that tend to run roughshod over the opposition parties tend to be punished at the polls in the next election. Nothing frightens a government with an absolute majority more than the fear of losing that majority.

If the majority is one where the government is a coalition of several parties then there is an automatic check on the government's power. This is certainly the case in many European nations where coalition governments are the norm.
 

Cliffy

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Would you rather have someone like Taliban Jack in there with the power to destroy the economy?
I would rather see Jack than Harpo. At least the money would be spent on social programs instead of wars. Harpo has already blown the wad on bailouts. The economy is in the toilet but the Harpo government and the media keep the myth that everything is AOK to keep the suckers blowing their cash on crap they don't need.
 

damngrumpy

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There is no way in hell I would like to see Harper and that strange crowd
from Alberta with a majority. They are reform wolves in sheep's clothing.
There are other PM's that shouldn't have had a majority either. Lyin'
Brian is a prime case as to why they should not have a majority.
There is a big difference between the role of having a majority and having
to much power in the Prime Ministers office though. Since the sixties the
power of the office grows, and sometimes it is good and other times it
is far to secretive. Over all I don't think there is to much power there,
I think the Prime Ministers sometimes get to spend too much time there,
ten years is enough.
 

Omicron

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Ever listen to the latest statements of the PM's ministers?

Lord God help me while I sit down and listen to this tune while I thing about it (click on it if you can't figure that out for yourself... it's just a copy of the tune I'm listening to while I write) http://tunes.digitalock.com/Will.I.Am-AlexOnTheSpot.mp3

First we push for Harper to let his ministers speak more...

First we tell him we will not vote for him more unless we know what his fascist-acting government is going to do other than behave like he's been bought out.

So he lets his minsters talk.

One of them says, "We only need one person to ask government to do something for it to happen" (Long form census issue)

Great... I can prove with scientific analysis that you're a bunch of brats who only dreamed about power until you got into Canada, Now you're running it like a candy shop for your bully bum-**** buddies, and you haven't made any jobs.
 

Nuggler

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DOES THE PRIME MINISTER AND CABINET, BACKED BY A MAJORITY IN THE HOUSE OF COMMONS HAVE TOO MUCH POWER IN THE CANADIAN GOVERNMENT?"""

8OGiven that situation, they ARE the Canadian Government.

:canada:
 

YukonJack

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The Prime Minister heading a MAJORITY party does have too much power, for the simple reason that he/she can order all his fellow party members to show the middle digit to their constituents, forget about representing them, piss in their eyes, be a slave, toe the Party line and at the threat of expulsion and ruining their political life, force them vote as he/she sees fit.

Democracy at its very best!
 

karrie

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lol.... 'piss in their eyes'... LOL.... oh boy... I haven't heard that expression in ages.