White women and multiculturalism....

[janbebe42]

I am white, and 16th generation with a mixed european background. I was influuenced mainly from these cultures growing up and christianity. I was always so proud to be a true canadian since my family came to canada in 1630 and started quebec but we ended up on NB later on. I of course come from an educated family, dad being a lawyer.

I am now 45 and there STILL is no work in my province. I had to leave many times alone to f ind work. I am college educated. What I find is when I enter cities like toronto, vancouver and ottawa, there is NO support at all for white women like myself. In fact this past year I tried many places and everywhere only help immigrants. I also personally know al ot of my female friends are either on paxil or anti-depressants because of the way they are treated by immigrant MEN mainly (i ended up on them in vancouver when I lived there). Where do we draw the line with this ethnic stuff- we are the d ominant culture and we want to preserve our culture. We should not have to give up our rights so that minorities can each have their own culture and ours is pushed aside. I am rather sickened by it. What do you all think???

 

[AnnaG]

I'm part paleface and part native . I think people should treat people as if they are people. Dissing someone because they are white, green, or brown is not very different from dissing someone because of their hairstyle.

 

[Praxius]

The work available in the Maritimes is piddly and pay is crumbs.... which is also why I'm moving to Australia in a few months... more jobs, double my pay for half the work I'm doing.... why wouldn't I? I spent about a decade around here since I graduated college trying to find a decent and steady job with reasonable pay and I still haven't found what I would consider a stable job that's not a dead end.... I already hit the dead end in this job after two years. Can't say I didn't try.

I went through a stint with Anti-Depressants myself, which was mostly due to being stuck for around two years without a steady job and no money to do anything about it, because I didn't have a steady job.

I'm a college graduate as well, and what my diploma taught me was that nobody gives a damn if you graduated from college or university. You can put down all the great things you did in school, but very rarely does anybody really care to actually check if any of it is true, or if you fudged your resume. So long as you can do the work they need, that's all that matters.

And the other thing I learned from my diploma(s) is that every single thing I learned in College, I could have learned online for free on various forums, web sites, free trials, plugins, etc.

The only thing you pay for in college is the actual time during the day to sit in front of a computer and learn..... which is quite the expensive lesson to learn, since it's the exact same thing someone can do at home with a computer.

I can't say I have had many issues with looking for a job around here due to race or over-abundance of immigrants gunning for the same positions..... I simply picked a career that has few jobs here in the Maritimes and pays less then most jobs out there people can get without a secondary education.

And for the record, we're not that dominant of a culture here in Canada, and do keep in mind that it wasn't just us white folk who helped create this country.... as I bet many of the minorities who worked on the railroads, farms, did all the dirty work most white folk didn't want to do, would have something to say about that.

The other thing I learned from college is that just because your a college graduate, that doesn't mean jobs will simply be handed out to you.

 

[karrie]

Yep... you sound Quebecois alright. Fully half of my Quebecois friends have a regular rant on their books which explain who is to blame for their problems in life. With two of the Quebecois men I know, the cuplrit is women. With three of the men I know the culprit is the rest of Canada. The women seem to focus on immigrants and natives.

 

[CDNBear]

The women seem to focus on immigrants and natives.

As a red blooded Native man, I love it when women focus on me...

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

I'm part paleface and part native . I think people should treat people as if they are people. Dissing someone because they are white, green, or brown is not very different from dissing someone because of their hairstyle.

The thing you're missing is that there is the ISS in Vancouver, the Immigrant Services Society. They are desinged to help immigants get jobs. The govt has created whole bureaucracies for immigrants. Job hunting in Canda has largely become privatized as far as I can tell, but not for immigrants. This occurs because business wants immigrants and gets the govt to start these programs.

Canadian capitalism has gone global so they no longer feel much obligation to Canadians or anyone else, it's a kind of YOYOMF kind of deal these days. It works for most, but not everyone.

 

[AnnaG]

The thing you're missing is that there is the ISS in Vancouver, the Immigrant Services Society. They are desinged to help immigants get jobs. The govt has created whole bureaucracies for immigrants. Job hunting in Canda has largely become privatized as far as I can tell, but not for immigrants. This occurs because business wants immigrants and gets the govt to start these programs.

Canadian capitalism has gone global so they no longer feel much obligation to Canadians or anyone else, it's a kind of YOYOMF kind of deal these days. It works for most, but not everyone.

I'm not missing anything. People are people and politicians and big business heads are something else.

 

[karrie]

I don't begrudge the government immigrant aid. They spend money on the whole immigration process, they want an established tax payer at the end of it. WE want established tax payers at the end of it. Immigrants are typically at a large disadvantage due to language barriers and a host of other reasons. I'd suggest that for someone who has the freedom to move around looking for jobs, moving to large immigration centres is a bizarre choice if you're competing for jobs.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

I'm not missing anything. People are people and politicians and big business heads are something else.

Sure, people are people, but when their interests are involved they change a bit. They get agendas and pursue them for their own interests. You sound a bit naive here.

 

[AnnaG]

I don't begrudge the government immigrant aid. They spend money on the whole immigration process, they want an established tax payer at the end of it. WE want established tax payers at the end of it. Immigrants are typically at a large disadvantage due to language barriers and a host of other reasons. I'd suggest that for someone who has the freedom to move around looking for jobs, moving to large immigration centres is a bizarre choice if you're competing for jobs.

Good point. Saskatchewan seems to be doing ok these days. I think it is predominantly paleface.

 

[karrie]

Good point. Saskatchewan seems to be doing ok these days. I think it is predominantly paleface.

Yes and no.... there are more and more immigrants, but, established and no longer needing 'assistance' to find their jobs.

 

[dumpthemonarchy]

I don't begrudge the government immigrant aid. They spend money on the whole immigration process, they want an established tax payer at the end of it. WE want established tax payers at the end of it. Immigrants are typically at a large disadvantage due to language barriers and a host of other reasons. I'd suggest that for someone who has the freedom to move around looking for jobs, moving to large immigration centres is a bizarre choice if you're competing for jobs.

Sure, immigrants need assistance, but immigration has become some kind of quasi-religious movement along with mulitculturalism. And multiculuturalism really means multiracialism-"The new face of Canada." I didn't get to vote for this.

Everyone moves to the cities because that's where the jobs are. Not to move where the jobs are is bizarre.

 

[Praxius]

As a red blooded Native man, I love it when women focus on me...

Only my great great grandmother from Maine was native in my family, so I'll just take a fraction of that if you don't mind

 

[AnnaG]

Everyone moves to the cities because that's where the jobs are. Not to move where the jobs are is bizarre.

Actually, moving to a spot where living expenses don't allow any room for anything else whether there's a job there or not is bizarre. Cities have jobs, but are horrid for living in. Extremely high accomodation costs, smog, crappy food, etc. There are jobs in the rural areas, too, you know.

 

[Praxius]

Actually, moving to a spot where living expenses don't allow any room for anything else whether there's a job there or not is bizarre. Cities have jobs, but are horrid for living in. Extremely high accomodation costs, smog, crappy food, etc. There are jobs in the rural areas, too, you know.

Coming from someone who lives in a city now and grew up in a small town, public transportation is limited in smaller towns unless you have your own car, which is one of the main reasons why I never went back home.

Of course everywhere is different, but when you're out of work and looking for some, you have more available to you in a city then a town, as if you move to a town that ends up either having no jobs for what you do, or the jobs available are crap or don't pay enough.... you put yourself in a bit of a hole that's hard to get out of and most I knew, ended up dropping their profession to work in one of the few labour jobs available..... thus not doing what you hoped or trained for.

I liked the food back home, I liked the space, the atmosphere for the most part, some of the people.... but none of it matters to me if I'm not doing a job I enjoy, or not getting paid enough to have a decent life.

 

[karrie]

Perhaps it's naive of me, but, it doesn't make sense to me to move ANYwhere without first securing a job.

 

[AnnaG]

Coming from someone who lives in a city now and grew up in a small town, public transportation is limited in smaller towns unless you have your own car, which is one of the main reasons why I never went back home.

We have a bus that stops at a spot across the river from here. takes about 10 minutes to get to it by bike. The closest towns around here are about 9 or 10,000 people each and they each have buses. Lots of people commute together around here.

Of course everywhere is different, but when you're out of work and looking for some, you have more available to you in a city then a town, as if you move to a town that ends up either having no jobs for what you do, or the jobs available are crap or don't pay enough.... you put yourself in a bit of a hole that's hard to get out of and most I knew, ended up dropping their profession to work in one of the few labour jobs available..... thus not doing what you hoped or trained for.

I know. I had visions of being the next Margaret Mead. I ended up opening a retail business in one of the towns here. Perhaps one day I may wander around the planet studying cultures. In the meantime, I'm happy growing fruit and raising chickens.

I liked the food back home, I liked the space, the atmosphere for the most part, some of the people.... but none of it matters to me if I'm not doing a job I enjoy, or not getting paid enough to have a decent life.

Yup. One does what one can to make things better.

 

[AnnaG]

Perhaps it's naive of me, but, it doesn't make sense to me to move ANYwhere without first securing a job.

You conservative, you. lol
Lots of people simply move in the hopes they'll get a job. I did when I was young. Fortunately back then, one could live on 1 minimum wage job where I was if that's the only job one could get. I worked my way up to a better job.
I think lot of people go to college/uni and expect to get a good job right away just because they have a degree. lol

 

[darkbeaver]

We have a bus that stops at a spot across the river from here. takes about 10 minutes to get to it by bike. The closest towns around here are about 9 or 10,000 people each and they each have buses. Lots of people commute together around here.

I know. I had visions of being the next Margaret Mead. I ended up opening a retail business in one of the towns here. Perhaps one day I may wander around the planet studying cultures. In the meantime, I'm happy growing fruit and raising chickens.

Yup. One does what one can to make things better.

Would you be interested in buying a used nine month old prize winning meat king (rooster)? I am moving and cannot take the chicken with me. It is in very good condition except for the limp, he is also a little bit overweight, a nice spot in the BC wilderness would be just what he needs.

 

[AnnaG]

Would you be interested in buying a used nine month old prize winning meat king (rooster)? I am moving and cannot take the chicken with me. It is in very good condition except for the limp, he is also a little bit overweight, a nice spot in the BC wilderness would be just what he needs.

lol One rooster is enough, thanks. We ate the second for Easter dinner.