Will Canada sabotage climate talks?

[strange]

"The Harper government recognized last year that its plan to tackle greenhouse gas emissions was extremely weak compared to other developed countries. As such, government documents show it devised a strategy that included trying to split European Union members and tying assistance to developing countries to binding emission reduction targets as part of a bid to influence international talks. The environment minister denies he or Canada’s climate change ambassador have ever seen the documents, which were prepared by the Department of Foreign Affairs last year for Foreign Affairs Minister Lawrence Cannon, Prime Minister Stephen Harper and others and obtained by the David Suzuki Foundation through Access to Information requests. However, opposition critics and environmental activists say the government’s position over the past year shows the controversial strategy was largely adopted, even if it has been ultimately unsuccessful."

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[YukonJack]

Will Canada sabotage climate talks?


You mean: will Canada be honest and stop this nonsense?

 

[AnnaG]

And this gov't also cut back on scientific funding. Whether Harpy & Co. is a saboteur or not is debatable, but the government actions so far seem to point that way either deliberately or accidentally.

Good thing for private concerns that fund science, or else Canada would be a 3rd world country concerning science and development.

 

[strange]

We are the only developed nation that still relies on our raw natural materials to generate the majority of our wealth. So when Alberta boys hold the cards climate change goes on the back burner.

 

[petros]

Will Canada sabotage climate talks?

Quiet possibly if Harper stays in the room to fart instead of disappearing.

 

[pegger]

Will Canada sabotage climate talks?


You mean: will Canada be honest and stop this nonsense?

If Harper believes this - he should grow a pair - stand up - and say that at the meeting - that he doesn't believe in the science - instead of these back-door antics. However, he has shown he has no principles that are worth standing up for. He will continue to act like the coward (and bully) he is.

 

[SirJosephPorter]

Will Harper sabotage climate talks? He will if he can. He is fiercely anti-environment, he takes his marching orders from the oil lobby in Alberta. There is also the religious right lobby that he has to satisfy. Since he could not give them gay marriage, he will try to give them this. So yes, he will do everything in his power to see to it that nothing gets done to improve the environment.

The problem is, he may not be able to do much. Canada is only a bit player on international scene, it does not carry much clout. Europe and USA will decide what happens. If they sign some kind of treaty and Canada does not fall in line, there will be sanctions imposed on Canada.

But yes, Harper has a visceral reaction when somebody talks of doing anything to improve the environment.

 

[ironsides]

If you let one province dictate to you, and I quote "developed nation" Are you really a nation. Who is Alberta to decide the climate change issue for Canada. I know I don't understand. Well I understand this much that you are a developing country politically speaking, get past this confederation thing, it is a relic from the past. Stop blaming Harper or any individual, it is not their fault your in this position. You have to learn to speak as one nation.

 

[Ron in Regina]

Maybe we should just send Stephane Dion over there to sell his Green Shift.
I understand he has some time on his hands. He can take the Sham-Wow Guy.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/87083-dions-green-shift-masturbation.html

Just saying, glass 1/2 full & silver lining sort'a thing...things could be worse.

 

[Kakato]

Maybe we should just send Stephane Dion over there to sell his Green Shift.
I understand he has some time on his hands. He can take the Sham-Wow Guy.

http://forums.canadiancontent.net/canadian-politics/87083-dions-green-shift-masturbation.html

Just saying, glass 1/2 full & silver lining sort'a thing...things could be worse.

Heh Heh
A guy could have some fun with this.

You cant "beat" Dions green shift,he has things in the "can"

 

[taxslave]

Will Canada sabotage climate talks?


You mean: will Canada be honest and stop this nonsense?

As in stopping trading in carbon credits? Which is just going to end up being another commodities market AKA casino for the rich to manipulate.
There are lots of things we can do to improve the environment without squandering billions of dollars and they can all be done in Canada, not planting a tree in a foreign country to assuage some city slickers Suzuki induced guilt.

 

[petros]

They can talk about the weather all they want but.....

 

[coldstream]

China has already 'sabatoged' the talks by indicating it won't be taken in by the Anthropocentric Global Warming hysteria and fraud. The U.S., which has and will in the NAFTA era define Canada's policy, seems ready not to submit to the mindless, economically catastrophic proposals of cap and trade, largely because there is so much opposition to it Congress.

Hopefully the thing will fall apart, and finally be shelved into the dustbin of history. But the amount of credulity and now financial support for this hoax, by people who stand to make billions trading 'carbon credits', means it won't go down without a fight, and, it fights with lies and dirt.

 

[L Gilbert]

:roll:

China has already 'sabatoged' the talks by indicating it won't be taken in by the Anthropocentric Global Warming hysteria and fraud........

roflmao
What would you expect from a country that is spewing as much crap as China is into the atmosphere and wherever else?

Hopefully the thing will fall apart, and finally be shelved into the dustbin of history. But the amount of credulity and now financial support for this hoax, by people who stand to make billions trading 'carbon credits', means it won't go down without a fight, and, it fights with lies and dirt.

Yeah. Anything that the greenies come up with should be ditched. Finish filling up the oceans with plastics and other crap, keep spewing chemical soups into the air, and keep messing with the fresh water. Never mind that clean businesses will grow to replace the dirty ones. You probably pi$$ in your drinking water and sh|t where you sleep, by the sounds of it.
Lies and dirt? They learned well from those that have been around longer then.

 

[Tonington]

Well, the Canadian government decided long ago that it wasn't going to even try to meet the obligations it signed onto with Kyoto Phase I, so I'm sure they will do their best to scrap certain aspects of Phase II, (probably that the developed nations only need to volunteer pledges, not commit to them, meanwhile calling for the growing economies to make actual commitments, can you say hypocrite!) so that we are not breaking international law.

It's going to be something else to watch the squirming and spinning. What has been going on behind closed doors will be open for all to see in the next few weeks.

The Government under Harper loved to point out that greenhouse gases rose under the Liberal government. Environment Canada only has data to 2007, but it shows quite the uptick following the changing of guard in 2006. Apparently they weren't much better. We can see that after the first year in power, the emissions drove up significantly! I'm sure they probably continued that trend until the last 9 months or so.

The Ministry of truth will be working overtime, doing their best to dutifully increase government spending, another trend that hasn't slowed since 2006...:angry3:

 

[L Gilbert]

Jean Chretien said that signing Kyoto was a "moral obligation" but he further said that Kyoto "means nothing".

 

[Tonington]

Jean Chretien said that signing Kyoto was a "moral obligation" but he further said that Kyoto "means nothing".

Yep. Martin and now Harper have continued with that same attitude. It's funny, in North America federal politicians are so inept, while state/provincial politicians do so much more.

I think that would be seen as a problem worth addressing. Most economies run better without patchworks of regulations. Apparently not? Hmm...

 

[ironsides]

:roll:roflmao
What would you expect from a country that is spewing as much crap as China is into the atmosphere and wherever else?

Yeah. Anything that the greenies come up with should be ditched. Finish filling up the oceans with plastics and other crap, keep spewing chemical soups into the air, and keep messing with the fresh water. Never mind that clean businesses will grow to replace the dirty ones. You probably pi$$ in your drinking water and sh|t where you sleep, by the sounds of it.
Lies and dirt? They learned well from those that have been around longer then.

Not much anybody can do without China's participation. The rest of the world could go totally green, and China alone could mess it up.

 

[Niflmir]

Jean Chretien said that signing Kyoto was a "moral obligation" but he further said that Kyoto "means nothing".

Making the right decision only seems to matter to politicians when the camera is pointed at them, after all. When one is looking back at failed commitments, its a matter of the past.

 

[pgs]

Will Harper sabotage climate talks? He will if he can. He is fiercely anti-environment, he takes his marching orders from the oil lobby in Alberta. There is also the religious right lobby that he has to satisfy. Since he could not give them gay marriage, he will try to give them this. So yes, he will do everything in his power to see to it that nothing gets done to improve the environment.

The problem is, he may not be able to do much. Canada is only a bit player on international scene, it does not carry much clout. Europe and USA will decide what happens. If they sign some kind of treaty and Canada does not fall in line, there will be sanctions imposed on Canada.

But yes, Harper has a visceral reaction when somebody talks of doing anything to improve the environment.

I totally agree with you here .
Those nasty conservatives and their leader Harper are out to cleanse the enviroment of all those trees and they want coal fired plants to kill the air.and hey whats with all that clean water,i am sure they want to posion it all.
WE MUST BAN CONSERVATIVES.