Beware the ploys of the left

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Beware the ploys of the left


Columnists / Peter Worthington


Back in the days before CSIS when the RCMP was our main intelligence and counter-espionage agency, a nagging concern was the distinction between legitimate dissent and illegal subversion.
RCMP Security (in which I had more faith than many media did), was acutely aware of this distinction, even though it was often blurred.
With the demise of the Soviet Union and emergence of nationalistic Russia, the dissent/subversion issue has faded, to be replaced by the need to distinguish the difference between "liberal" and "left" -- too often treated synonymously, often by commentators such as Rush Limbaugh who sees them as equal and interchangeable blights to be opposed.
One who does understand the distinction is Jamie Glazov, a Russian-born Canadian and PhD in history who has written a powerful book that says it all: United in Hate; The Left's Romance with Tyranny and Terror.
While "liberals" are usually leftists, the hard "left" is never liberal. The left is dogmatic, while liberals tend towards open mindedness (in theory, anyway). Classical liberals tend to be today's conservatives.
A quintessential "liberal" was George Orwell, a socialist who understood totalitarianism and used his two great books, 1984 and Animal Farm to warn the world of dangers of the left totalitarianism.
Soviet background
Perhaps his Soviet background made Glazov unusually perceptive -- as are many of East European heritage with personal experience of freedoms being stolen. Glazov notes that after the Berlin wall came down and the U.S.S.R. imploded, a sense of dejection settled on leftist ideologues who "bitterly lamented that the alternative to capitalism was now gone."
After 9/11, Glazov says "almost overnight these individuals underwent a miraculous transformation. A bright spark could once again be detected in their eyes ... ready for another attempt at creating a glorious and revolutionary future. Sept. 11 represented a personal vindication for them."
The likes of Prof. Ward Churchill in the U.S. called 9/11 "chickens coming home to roost," and Americans who died deserved it. The left cabal, that despises things American, includes the likes of Naomi Klein, Noam Chomsky, British MP George Galloway, "Peace Mom" Cindy Sheehan, Tom Hayden, billionaire George Soros, and even former U.S. president Jimmy Carter, who thinks Hamas is "an organization ready for peace."
Glazov thinks the American left "succeeded in making United States vulnerable to 9/11."
When he was president, Bill Clinton neglected numerous chances to capture or kill Osama bin Laden. His tepid reaction to the embassy bombings in Kenya and Tanzania, and the attack on the USS Cole in Aden, encouraged America's enemies. U.S. intelligence agencies neither shared information nor co-operated.
Things such as women at anti-war rallies veiling themselves like Muslims or dressing as terrorists, are ploys of left ideology.
Glazov recalls Mary McCarthy refusing to believe the North Vietnamese massacre at Hue, and writing "I prefer to think it was Americans."
Names and idiocies
This book is useful in recalling the names and idiocies of the left that we've since forgotten -- hatred of their country, paranoia, accusations of "right wing conspiracies," admiration for revolutionary icons.
Such people are not liberal. They are true believers and reflect what Malcolm Muggeridge once called "the Great Liberal Death Wish" and bemoaned it was a disease more than a conspiracy which could be fought. A death wish cannot be fought, but it can be understood.
It's hardly reassuring, but if the hard left ever realize the goal of their Islamofascist idols achieving power, they will be the first victims. Josef Stalin, Mao Zedong, Fidel Castro and their heirs today waste no time in eliminating Liberals and leftists whom they had used to secure their ends.
Ain't that the truth. Sounds like several of the a$$hat fringe folk haunting these hallowed forums...;-)
 

Kreskin

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This sounds like an extension of one of the vast right wing conspiracies.
 

#juan

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This sounds like an extension of one of the vast right wing conspiracies.

This crap is just about all Peter Worthington can write these days. He longs for another Mulroney and another Reagan.
 

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"Classical liberals tend to be today's conservatives."

That's an interesting observation in the OP. 8O :lol::lol::lol:
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Well if you look at how a lot of us rated on that little quiz we did last week, there was a lot more life around the center line than anything else, perhaps lending a little weight to that. It can be argued that some of the questions seemed a little slanted (which is true of most surveys) but I think it provided an interesting glimpse at where we really are. For all some claim that the CPC is right wing, when you look at the combination of its doctrine and governance, its closer to the center than the Liberals (although Ignatieff does seem to be more centrist than Dion was).
 

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Beware the ploys of the left


Columnists / Peter Worthington


Ain't that the truth. Sounds like several of the a$$hat fringe folk haunting these hallowed forums...;-)
 
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Worthington is entitled to his opinion. But, like many Canadians on this forum, he displays his ignorance while adamantly defending his warped views.

He condemns Sovietism like I have done in the past on this forum. But he fails to note that it was Republican Hoover whose handouts financed the Red Army campaign in 1922 [op cit] which entrenched Stalin and led to the Cold war. He does not mention Prescott Bush's role in helping to arm Nazi Germany. He ignores the Republican 9/11 Commission Report which clearly stated that Clinton was never given the opportunity to arrest OBL. And as for Islamofascism, everyody knows it was Reagan whose financial handouts led to the Taliban's usurpation in Afghanistan.

I post on other web forums but this is the only one where deluded right wingers continue to defend Republican failed policies which ultimately created the USA's and the world's enemies. In every other forum that I post on the far right loonies have all given up on defending the Republican failings. Interestingly, the RealCities network which used to be the biggest defender of Republican far right ideology has closed down its forums because so many Republicans gave up on defending those failings. By contrast, it was Democrat Harry Truman whose Truman Doctrine stop the spread of communism. This without a word of praise from the far right.

If you far right delusionals continue to insist on condemning the Democrats while praising Republicans, why don't you do yourselves a favor by posting your views on democraticunderground.com? Here is a leftist web forum where if you are so smart and so brave, you can tell them how stupid you think they are.

Of course, they will tell you to f^ck off. If you are so smart and so tough, that would not present a problem for any of you.
 

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I'll avoid international socialism but the NDP version of government is definitely a bad thing as previous experience has shown us. With the BC election now only a month away it is important to make sure that the Dippers do not grab custody of the taxpayers chequebook and force us back into debt and have not status.
 

wulfie68

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And as for Islamofascism, everyody knows it was Reagan whose financial handouts led to the Taliban's usurpation in Afghanistan.

And lets be honest, what was the reason Reagan was supporting the Taliban again? Oh yeah, the Soviet invasion and attempted occupation of Afghanistan. I'm not absolving Reagan of any blame but trying to point out that he and the rest of the NATO countries were onside with supporting the various mujahadeen groups. Collectively where we (NATO) failed was to help our erstwhile allies rebuild after they were victorious in our little proxy war, thus giving the Taliban a chance to seize power, and that blame can be spread across national and party lines. That doesn't detract from the fact that it was an extremist regime of the far left (the totalitarians of the Soviet Union) that created the whole mess in the first place.

The extreme left is just as dogmatic, violent and repressive as the extreme right and anyone who doesn't believe that needs only brush up on 20th century history to see it. Lenin, Stalin, Mao and others showed us that but its something dogmatists are too willing to forget.
 

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I'll avoid international socialism but the NDP version of government is definitely a bad thing as previous experience has shown us. With the BC election now only a month away it is important to make sure that the Dippers do not grab custody of the taxpayers chequebook and force us back into debt and have not status.

Good luck on that taxslave. Unfortunately, the NDP have made their career by appeasing the fringe/lobby groups that are looking for hand-outs and the unions... It very well may be a big uphill battle for you.
 

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I decided to look up Peter Worthington (before reading he article, I always look up the source, that tells me of the bias of the author). This is what Wikipedia says:

A conservative, Worthington led the brash new tabloid (Toronto Sun) throughout the 1970s as it campaigned against the government of Pierre Trudeau. At one point he was jailed after being accused of violating the Official Secrets Act.

Following the 1981 police raid of gay bathouses in Toronto, Worthington, in an editorial and again in an interview with CBC Radio's Sunday Morning threatened to publish the name of future found-ins.[1]

What this means is that he threatened to out the gays, back in 1981, when there was so much prejudice against gays, that their lives could have been in danger. But something like that wouldn’t bother gay basher like Worthington. So a few gays die, so what is lost, where is the harm?

He ran as a conservative party candidate.

He succeeded in becoming the official Progressive Conservative candidate for the riding in the 1984 general election, but was again defeated by McDonald.

Worthington was criticized when it was revealed that he had informed to the American Federal Bureau of Investigation about the suspected political sympathies of a number of his friends including June Callwood.[2][3]

A back stabber, no less.

And this is the worthy, the luminary whose word we are supposed to take as the Gospel truth? If one is a conservative, perhaps. I wouldn’t take his word if he tells me that 2 plus 2 make four, I would want an independent opinion by a mathematician.

The column is a pure hatchet job on the left, nothing more. Joe McCarthy himself would be proud.
 

SirJosephPorter

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Wulfie, so Reagan was not at fault in supporting Taliban? How about when he and Bush supported Saddam Hussein, whose fault was that (there is the famous photograph of Rumsfeld shaking hands with Saddam Hussein).

How about the support by American regimes, both democratic and Republican for the Wahabi extreme Islamic regime in Saudi Arabia? That also wasn’t Reagan’s and Bush’s fault I suppose, only the fault of Carter and Clinton.

When it comes to Islamofascism, nobody’s hands are clean. Conservatives like to pretend that their hands are clean (but then, aren’t there hands always clean?). Their hands are as dirty as those of the left. The right supports Islamofascists when it suits their purpose, whether it is Taliban in Afghanistan, Saddam Hussein in Iraq or the murderous thugs of Saudi Arabia.

Even outside Islamofascism, the right is well known for supporting murderous thugs all over the world, whether it was Pinochet in Chile, Suharto in Indonesia, or the right wing Contras in Nicaragua.
 

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Jee-Zuz! Does this one have to turn into another anti-Republican septic tank too? If you're all so obsessed with it ... why don't you all live together and kill each other properly?
 

SirJosephPorter

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They are true believers and reflect what Malcolm Muggeridge once called "the Great Liberal Death Wish"

Yes, I remember Malcolm Muggeridge, from when I lived in Britain. He was considered to be way out on the lunatic extreme right fringe of the Tory Party. There were a few Tory MPs who were so extreme that they would form almost a continuum with the National Front, the Fascist organization in Britain (I don’t think Muggeridge ever was an MP, but his philosophy reflected very accurately the philosophy of the right wing of the Tory party).

I remember once he referred to the third world countries as ‘those miserable places’. That succinctly summarized the contempt Muggeridge felt for the non white people. He thought that Church of England had lost its way, had sold its soul to the Devil. He converted to Catholicism at the age of 75.

I can see how Muggeridge would be a perfect fit for Worthington.