I love guys like your Praxius. You are just so...all-knowing. Typical NDP granola cruncher lookin' out through the picture window and judging how the neighbor cuts his lawn.
And I love troll boys like you who can't bother to put anything forth except do the exact hypocritical thing you're claiming I am doing and sit there and point your damn finger like your sh*t don't stink.
At least I'm putting out options, what do you got?
Not a damn thing..... get a clue.
And I don't give two licks of a dogs crap how you cut your damn lawn.... let it grow like a field for all I care. That just goes to show just how clueless you really are on where my positions stand.
And I ain't even that supportive of the NDP.... they're just the lesser of all the other morons out there.
Don't like it? Too bad, suck it up princess, cuz I don't give a sh*t.
First, like most Canadians, you define yourself by what you are not. You're not American. Good for you. The same can be said for the Swiss. Next....
And where are you from? I am guessing the US since I must have struck a nerve with what I said in regards to the US..... or maybe you're just one of those typical US Arse lickers who hopes that all his sucking up will get him some place in his miserable life cuz he doesn't know how to do it for himself.
Am I getting warmer? No? Like I care.
I don't define myself by what I am not.... but that doesn't mean I can't be glad I'm not living in the US with the US's way of life in which I don't agree with.
If I wanted to live there, I would have moved there a long time ago.
If you want to take something more out of that, you go right ahead princess.
Second, as not even a middle power anymore, but rather a Lloyd Axworthy, 'soft power' that doesn't have skin in the game Canadians can yap about Gitmo or Vietnam or Iraq or whatever ya want cuz your country is so irrelevant, and so far under the radar--it has no impact at all. Not even a moral impact, because well, there is that no skin in the game concept.
Exactly wtf are you talking about? Or better yet, what are you smoking? What makes you think I care if we're a super power or middle power or a power energy bar for that matter? I yap about Git because we have a Canadian citizen being held there illegally by US Tyrants who just want to make examples out of (if anything) child soldiers..... and he hasn't even been proven to have killed anybody, let alone being a child soldier.
I'll bitch about Vietnam, because it's the same mentality being used today to justify the same actions they have yet to learn from.
We have no impact? Ok then.... we'll just take our troops home and you can fill in the gap with all your well trained boot squad SS troops from Iraq and see how well you can do in the frontlines in Afghanistan where we have been placed since we practically got there...... a place where most of the other NATO forces don't want to go.
Have fun.... enjoy your little war by yourself. I sure as hell never agreed with us going in the first place.
Ignorant.
I just think about all those great Canadians in their beautful blue berets watching bodies float down the river in Rwanda. Quite a sight. Or that wonderful move of giving both Pakistan and India the tools to build nuclear weapons. Genius.
Maybe they might just use them on you sometime, here's hoping.
And if you want to even fathom an attempt on splitting hairs on which country is the most screwed up, ignorant and back stabbing nation that loves to get their grubby fingers into everybody's business..... you best just stop right now and get back onto topic newboy, cuz you clearly don't have a lick of a clue what you're about to get into..... and if you really want to get into it, take it to the Steel Cage.
Oddly, Canadians like you are more interested in looking out the window than in the mirror. You might want to take a look at yerselves from time to time. Pretty ugly picture.
You sure think you know a lot about me don't you? Canadians like me? Well wtf are you?
No wait, let me guess.... you're one of them southern boy'ez frem dem white communities who get'n aller pissn'off when someone doesn't agree wit ya and so ye gather'n up thar whole communitay to get a good ol lynch mob going..... and when someone doesn't liken' thar way you want every other slack jawed youlkle to live, ye get'n all pissy and angry to the point you feel you're all smart and heroic by acting like a little newb troll boy....
or perhaps one of those loser kids in elementary who thinks he's cool because he tags around with the real cool kids and he does what they say, all the while they really think you're a loser and they just really make fun of you behind your back.... .so now you gotta come on the internet and try and act smart to people in another country because everybody else in your own country hates you.
Am I getting warm?
Don't start sh*t you can't finish buddy.
Which gets me back to the US. You mention Gitmo. We're getting rid of it. That's what grown-ups who have skin in the game do when you make a mistake. You fix it.
Ha ha ha..... yeah ok buddy.... you're getting rid of it after how many years of the rest of the world telling you what you're doing is illegal? After how many people you have detained in there were actually innocent victims of your racial profiling?
Oh yeah, you're closing it, so that makes it all better.... we'll just forget about your little detention centre off of US soil to avoid US laws..... we'll just forget about all your other secret detention centres accross the globe that you use for torturing your victims until they confess to whatever you want.... just so you can turn around and say
"See! The System Works.... they confessed."
:roll:
What a crock.
No Skin in the game? Wtf do you think life is, a dumbass football game?
We've all heard the whole skin in the game line, right along with the "Stay the Course" line plenty in regards to you guys trying to round up support for Afghanistan..... our idiot leaders decided to follow suit and join up..... we picked the one spot everybody else didn't want to take and we've been there ever since.
And you want to talk about having skin in the game? We got plenty, right up there with the UK, the US and the Dutch (Hats off to them)..... so I have plenty of right to bitch and moan all I please based on your logic.
Get over it.
Canadians like you love freedom. You're more than willing to watch Amerians die for it all day long.
You fk'ers didn't fight or die for my country's freedom, how friggin narcissistic can a person get? You're fighting wars you created for yourselves against people who didn't have anything to do with your WTC towers being attacked, get over yourself.
I have been in the forces, my brother has been in the forces, my father has been in the forces and my cousin is over in Afghanistan right at this very moment..... so don't fk'n sit there with your ignorant views and think you're all king sh*t and the heroes of the world, cuz you're sure as hell not.
I'm willing to watch you americans die all day long until you guys learn from your own dumbass mistakes..... which clearly you haven't yet..... keep it up then.... keep thinking you're doing yourselves and the world good. :roll:
Did you serve in your own military at any paticular time or are you just trying to puff your chest out like a big shot by listing off other people's actions?
Yeah I thought so.... way to be there troll.
You folks just sit back and let us do the fighting while your government wracks up surpluses. You're kinda like whiny teenagers in a way.
And you're so isolated in your own country's propaganda, you've become so ignorant on what's really going on.... the more you open your mouth the more foolish you end up sounding.
Oh but I guess that is to be expected once you hear that someone isn't all that appreciative of the offer to have your military come and "Liberate" us.
You guys already tried that back in the 1800's and we pushed you all the way back to washington, burned down your white house, burned down a bunch of other things I couldn't really care about.... and then we left. At that time you guys thought we'd welcome you as saviros and liborators back then too..... Guess you guessed wrong on that one..... my how the times don't seem to change.
Try it again..... do it.... I'd love to see you guys try it again. You'd end up losing a lot more in the end then we would.
Hell, you guys can't even handle some insurgents in the desert..... you expect me to think you can handle a military force with better training and equal technology right on your border?
Right. :roll:
And don't take that the wrong way, I don't believe we'd defeat your nation, nor would we really care to..... but I do know that you'd be stuck in yet another dumb ass move based on emotional propaganda and no justification except to make yourselves feel justified in your omnipotence.
The sad thing is that you're country is also on the verge of going down the drain.... and yet the attitude that has created it still exists.
Oh well.... have fun.
Canadians ignore their mistakes and fix nothing.
Do you remember saying something about a mirror? :roll: You seriously need to get an education and learn a bit about the world outside of your borders..... this is just getting sad.
You always fall back and say, "Well at least we're not like the Americans!" Ya got that right.
Thanks.... I figured you'd agree with something smart eventually.
And then you mention the guy we sent off to Syria to get tortured. That was wrong.
Yeah? How come he is still waiting to hear an actual apology from your government who sent him there? How come he's still on your terror watch list?
Well?
You sure have a lot to talk about, but very little substance to back any of it up.... typical. If you guys accept that what you are doing is wrong, then how about you finally take some damn action and correct them?
Oh and he's not the only one who's been sent off and tortured at the hands of the US.
Hey by the way, what have you PERSONALLY done or said lately to your government about the third-world conditions native people live in up there?
How about you get off your lazy ass and go look for it?
As if your country is one to talk in regards to the treatment of the natives..... friggin hypocritical to the core you sure are.... cripes.
Let's see...about half a million people who supposedly get DIRECT subsidies of $6 billion a year...and yet they live in third world poverty and ignorance. Hmmmm....that's a scandal doncha think?
Yup, and I have attempted to address this countless times in the past, I talk about it on a number of occasions here in these forums as well. I voice myself any chance I get.
Oh and newsflash.... I have native herritage in my family and my blood you dip sh*t, so yes, I am completely aware of the problems facing natives and other issues in this country. I accept our issues and our problems and I do what I can to help fix or bring awareness to them. I don't need some fool from accross the border who doesn't have a clue on what's really going on or who I am to tell me right and wrong.
Once again, shows what you know.
Ignorant.
The Patriot Act?
I love it. Compare it to the War Measures Act invoked to catch half a dozen wankers in Quebec I suppose.
Same Sex Marriages being Restricted? Good thing too. You want to give blessings to perversion that kills, that's your business.
wow.... now that had to be the dumbest statement I've read in a long time. Once again.... if I don't relate or agree with your country's mentality, then why the hell would I want to join it?
Come on.... put two and two together to make four and what do you get?
One extra finger pointing straight up and in your general direction.
"Invasion of two sovrign nations that were unprovoked?"
You mean Afghanistan and Iraq. Uhh...911 ring a bell?
Yup, and that topic has already been talked to death in here... you want to get on a debate on how Osama wasn't even in Afghanistan and the Taliban never sanctioned the attack and all that other crap.... join one of those threads.
It's suprising that you guys would elect Obama and reject the same old government with the same old lies..... and yet still believe many of the lies.
Sad.... so sad.
By the way there were over forty Canadians who died in the towers that day, but well....to admit that might hurt the feelings of your growing Muslim community up there.
Oh, I never knew some Canadians died as well.... wow, that's really news to me :roll:
I have no issue wanting to find the people who created that attack, but I'm not an idiot to just jump when and wherever you guys point as the next distraction without any solid and factual evidence linking.
But then again, it's easy to get you guys all riled up and ready to blow stuff up without thinking.... just look at how you've responded so far in this thread.
Oh.... and from your above statement, I take it you expect me to have a hate on for Muslims because a group of them got sick and tired of your country's meddling in their lives where it was not wanted?
Sounds like the norm for you guys.
But that's ok..... if you want to blame all the muslims for your poor suffering, then I guess it's only fair to blame all Americans for the BS we've all been living in around the world for the last 8 or so years.
But then I don't expect you to catch on to the connection there, so we'll move on.
Afghanistan was and is definitely were the action is in getting those 6th Century morons removed from the face of the earth. Unless of course as a good NDP'er you're now going to argue that whipping women who show some ankle or go out into the markets at the wrong time is maybe ok? And doncha just love those honor killings?
You're examples are lame, coming from a guy in a country that still executes.
You want to know the real kicker? It's not your damn place to go around and dictate to everyone how to live.
Maybe when you guys fix your own sh*t, remove all your ghettos, gangstas, crazy religious nut cults, racism, poverity and all that other crap..... maybe then I and everybody else will take you guys seriously.
Until then, you're no better then anybody else in this world, so get off your almighty high horse and take a look around reality, because very few people give a sh*t about your country anymore..... and it's because of attitudes like yours that they don't.
Deal with it.
As for Iraq...we were lied to. But because we're grown-ups we're getting out. But if you think old Saddam was a great guy, then hey good on ya bud. That'll teach us!
Oh yeah, you're getting out..... just as soon as you guys can secure that oil you came for and rape the country of all of it's surplus resources..... oh and to make sure things look sorta stable, so once again, you can tell the world
"See, this is why we did it.... we didn't know wtf we did it originally, but this is the reason why we displaced millions, killed hundreds of thousands, destabilized an entire sovrign and passive nation and planted weapons and tools on civilians to cover our asses."
Yeah, you guys sure are making a difference and really learning from your mistakes. :roll: Jeez....
I suppose you never even bothered to look up or ask any Iraqi's what they think of everything over there? Most of them claim they prayed for the days when Saddam was still in power.... at least then they could walk down the streets, goto work and be with their families without having to worry about getting blown up or shot by forigners.
Do I think it's better that Saddam is gone?
My opinion is irrelevent because he was not my leader or my country..... go ask those whom it truly matters to..... oh, but that's such a wild concept.... ask people what they need, don't tell them what they need.... now why didn't you think of that earlier?
I wonder.
"Having a Super Christian Nut Job as a President for 8 years and screwed everything up all based on his ignorant values?"
I'm no big fan of GW. And I don't feel any need to defend him just because he is my President. We're encouraged to think for ourselves here and have different opinions.
Fair enough, as I have my own differing opinions. Harper is my Prime Minister, even though I never voted for him.... but I can still call him a two-faced douche bag lying arse pucker if I like..... to each their own.
But you comment does get to the intolerance of the tolerant showing itself. Secular atheists like you insist on 'tolerance', yet you have none for people of other view-points.
See, there you go with your ignorance again, thinking I'm an athiest because I used the term Super Christian. *tisk tisk*
People like you will insist Christians have no right to 'force their views on others'. Instead we should just sit quietly while people sin and happily destroy their lives, the lives of others, and then march off to hell.
Exactly... if you have two clues about what Christianity was originally all about, you would have known that Jesus's teachings explicitly explained that you don't force your views and ways onto others, you let them come to you when they are ready. Indeed.... you sit on your ass and be quiet.
Oh but that doesn't work for your christian conquest.
But since you're going completely away from your actual teachings and think it's your duty to force and oppress the world into doing what you think they should, who's the ones who are really going to hell?
I don't need lunatics like you trying to save me from hell.... if I'm going to hell based on my lifestyle and my actions I take, then so be it..... I don't need you coming around and trying to tell me how to live.... I already have people do that in my lives and they're called my parents....
You're not my dad and you're not my mom..... try and force your ways onto me and see how far you get.
If I have to spend the rest of my life up in the clouds with a bunch of oppressive crazies, I'll choose hell thanks.
You know...they said the same thing to William Wilberforce, who ended slavery, child labor and even cruelty to animals. But I guess you would say those things were okay. Certainly he had no right using his religion to end evil.
Religion doesn't remove evil, people remove evil. Religion is not the basis of morality and it never was.
Don't forget that your wonderful religion is just a pass off of the Greek Religion (Mythology) with such things as Halos, Angels, Gods living in the coulds and bad guys living in a firey pit of flames underground......
Now if Christianity was a leech off of something that is considered a Mythology these days, then what does that tell you about Christianity?
Your religion is not anymore right then any other religion out there and everybody who lives in a "FREE SOCIETY" should have the right to choose their religion and how they wish to live.
"If you want to be a part of the US, then move down there yourself and enjoy it."
Actually, I did. I decided I could wait for Quebec to separate, or separate myself. Quebecers are narrow-minded fascists. I love America. I love Americans.
Good for you, enjoy it. Who am I to argue. So long as you keep that life down there, I don't care what you do.
I love the freedom to think and say what I want.
And what have I been doing this whole post?
I love great healthcare (in Canada I waited three years for gallstone surgery)
Yeah and I've heard plenty about the healthcare in the US, and how the life expectancy of Americans is a lot lower then our own. I may have to wait for a while for certain operations, but at least I'm going to get the operation.... if you don't have the money or you got a hack of a private health coverage plan down in the US (That calls things they don't like Experimental) then you're screwed arn't you?
Either that or you're in debt for the rest of your short life.
that includes among other things the use of clotbusters for strokes over the past twenty years. Still 'experimental' up there.
And very common operations/procedures that are acceptable everywhere else in the world that cost too much are called experimental down there in the US..... and many end up suffering because their medical coverage won't cover the costs.
Great example.
By the way, if your DOG needs an MRI, he can get one this afternoon if you'd like down here.
Like any of my animals ever really needed an MRI. Oh and there are a few clinics around here in Canada which do that.... seen it not too long ago on the news, go figure.
"The moment this country merges into the US is either the day I pickup a weapon or I leave this screwed up place and never return."
So you have a knife and fork then? That'll show us! Hey maybe you could go way north to one of those native reserves to starve like the rest of the folks up there. Or you could consider Switzerland. Nice place. Low taxes. Decentralized government. Multi-lingual even. Great military. Mind you...you'd have to keep a machine gun loaded in your house at all times and serve in the military.
So no more different then the US where every house has their own weapons cache in the basement.... cuz you never know when the King of England will come around to take over again :roll:
Got anything else trollish to say?
"I spit at the concept of becoming a citizen of the United States. It might be for some people, but it's sure as hell not for me."
Great, so when are you gonna grow-up then and be a real citizen of Canada?
:-? Someone who runs away from Canada to go live in the US is going to sit there and ask me when I'm going to be a real citizen of my country?
You're one screwed up puppy you know that?
"Screw that!"
Yup, you are a genius alright. No doubt about it.
More of a genius then some it would seem.... now that you had your little piss stint and you got a response, how about you get back on topic.
I will not be entertaining this level of trolling in this thread after this post..... Get back on topic and contribute something relating to it or simply leave the thread/topic if you have nothing worthwhile to say.