Who Killed Canada?

[Scott Free]

Interesting movie:

'WHO k i l l e d CANADA?'

 

[Nuggler]

Not quite dead yet, but soon.

A nation totally bamboozled.

A nation being dumbed down in schools.

Dumbed down in their social expectations.

Think about it. Not too many people you know support the neocon or neolib regimen, and yet it continues to roll over us.

 

[scratch]

Not quite dead yet, but soon.

A nation totally bamboozled.

A nation being dumbed down in schools.

Dumbed down in their social expectations.

Think about it. Not too many people you know support the neocon or neolib regimen, and yet it continues to roll over us.

......and we do not now how soon we can try to change that...

 

[Scott Free]

The video made me sick.

I'm definitely going to become proactive. I might not like government but I like full on tyranny even less.

 

[Unforgiven]

Yeah, So?

 

[Nuggler]

Welllllllllllllllll

Dunno about youse guys, but;

I'm retired, got time, and intend to become a card carrying NDP guy, and actually work for the party.

For whatever good it will do, as the Libs and Cons have almost got it in the minds of Canadians that NDP = commie.

Anyway, will be interesting.

If we don't stand up we may as well roll over.............8Othat make sense???

:-|

 

[missile]

I never thought of the NDP that way..just as a bunch of politically correct,idealists without thee true costs of their ideas.

 

[darkbeaver]

Canadian Action Party Mel Hurtigs books are very instructive about the nuts and bolts level of corporate fascism.

 

[darkbeaver]

I never thought of the NDP that way..just as a bunch of politically correct,idealists without thee true costs of their ideas.

It was exactly that evolution to soft fluffy compromize with capital and politically correct glamour that compelled me to quit them. They've long ago become canadian Democrats.

 

[Nuggler]

Canadian Action Party Mel Hurtigs books are very instructive about the nuts and bolts level of corporate fascism.

Pretty damn astute, ain't he, Beaver.!!

UNFORTUNATELY::: oh poo, oh poo, mel hurtig............raving lunatic.........fringe nutbar........or so says Con....ventional wisdom

Wish we had some more raving lunatics like him.

;-)

 

[darkbeaver]

Welllllllllllllllll

Dunno about youse guys, but;

I'm retired, got time, and intend to become a card carrying NDP guy, and actually work for the party.

For whatever good it will do, as the Libs and Cons have almost got it in the minds of Canadians that NDP = commie.

Anyway, will be interesting.

If we don't stand up we may as well roll over.............8Othat make sense???

:-|

Buy a pitchfork. If the NDP were real socialists we would have our own country by now instead of this rotting near dead body literally being eaten by the bacteria of capitalist bankers.
United we stand divided we fall. One for all and all for one. Yeah, it makes sense.8O

 

[darkbeaver]

Pretty damn astute, ain't he, Beaver.!!

UNFORTUNATELY::: oh poo, oh poo, mel hurtig............raving lunatic.........fringe nutbar........or so says Con....ventional wisdom

Wish we had some more raving lunatics like him.

;-)

Yeah, pretty much anyone who's as capable and as articulate as Hurtig gets pushed to the fringe or farther.

 

[Scott Free]

Canadian Action Party Mel Hurtigs books are very instructive about the nuts and bolts level of corporate fascism.

I made a donation to them before the election.

I don't particularly like the NDP. I don't see why social programs have to mean less freedom and fewer rights. They seem to think that if government hands you money then they have the right to order you around. So they view social programs as a weapon against liberty not for it - this is a view shared by all the major political parties. The reality is that any money the government has was stolen and pilfered. All government money is dirty money and it doesn't give them any privilege or moral ground. If government doesn't give up freely and unconditionally the money it steals then the government is a tyranny.

 

[darkbeaver]

I made a donation to them before the election.

I don't particularly like the NDP. I don't see why social programs have to mean less freedom and fewer rights. They seem to think that if government hands you money then they have the right to order you around. So they view social programs as a weapon against liberty not for it - this is a view shared by all the major political parties. The reality is that any money the government has was stolen and pilfered. All government money is dirty money and it doesn't give them any privilege or moral ground. If government doesn't give up freely and unconditionally the money it steals then the government is a tyranny.

I'm not an expert about particapatory democracies but I do know we no longer live in one and I can't say with any exactitude when we stopped that and began living in the wage slavery and perpetual debt both national and personal but I remember marching and protesting against free-trade back in the eighties with vaguly defined fears that this,the now, is where we would find ourselves. Here's the inescapable truth, that's our government, we are responsible, we fix it or we suffer. Humans cannot yet escape the necessity to self govern for the good of all citizens. I don't think even enlightened anarchy would work just yet. The tyranny of a corporate and government union is called fascism, isn't that what Mooseoleanee said?

 

[Said1]

It was exactly that evolution to soft fluffy compromize with capital and politically correct glamour that compelled me to quit them. They've long ago become canadian Democrats.

Jack Layton gets portrayed unfairly by the media. He's not really that petite. :lol:

 

[Scott Free]

I'm not an expert about particapatory democracies but I do know we no longer live in one and I can't say with any exactitude when we stopped that and began living in the wage slavery and perpetual debt both national and personal but I remember marching and protesting against free-trade back in the eighties with vaguly defined fears that this,the now, is where we would find ourselves. Here's the inescapable truth, that's our government, we are responsible, we fix it or we suffer. Humans cannot yet escape the necessity to self govern for the good of all citizens. I don't think even enlightened anarchy would work just yet. The tyranny of a corporate and government union is called fascism, isn't that what Mooseoleanee said?

Well said! And I agree.

I do not or have ever propose anarchism with any seriousness. I know people are mostly too stupid for it. Perhaps one day it will be viable.