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April 10th, 2008, 08:29 PM

I guess we can say Harper loves free speech.



Sarah Polley among artists calling for changes to controversial bill.


http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...de2dd5&k=29917

I guess Socrates the Greek doesn't like the Gestapo King Harper. What a joke.
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April 10th, 2008, 11:35 PM

Quoting Socrates the Greek
I guess we can say Harper loves free speech.



Sarah Polley among artists calling for changes to controversial bill.


http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...de2dd5&k=29917

I guess Socrates the Greek doesn't like the Gestapo King Harper. What a joke.
You are a joke. How can you compare Harper,who is committed to fighting radical islam,which wants to destroy Israel,to Hitler? You connect everything wrong in the world to the Conservatives and then liken them to the Nazis.Are you 60 or 6? This bill which will be passed by our ELECTED parliament is designed to keep the fringe groups from recieving our tax dollars to makemovies about lesbians masturbating and that drivel. Good for Harper and co.
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April 11th, 2008, 12:52 AM

Quoting Socrates the Greek
I guess we can say Harper loves free speech.



Sarah Polley among artists calling for changes to controversial bill.


http://www.canada.com/vancouversun/n...de2dd5&k=29917

I guess Socrates the Greek doesn't like the Gestapo King Harper. What a joke.
Idiotic.

Refusing to pay for garbage IS NOT censorship.

If you want to make a pornographic movie, fine, feel free, but don't expect me to pay for it.

That is all.
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April 12th, 2008, 04:18 PM

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You are a joke. How can you compare Harper,who is committed to fighting radical islam,which wants to destroy Israel,to Hitler? You connect everything wrong in the world to the Conservatives and then liken them to the Nazis.Are you 60 or 6? This bill which will be passed by our ELECTED parliament is designed to keep the fringe groups from recieving our tax dollars to makemovies about lesbians masturbating and that drivel. Good for Harper and co.

Foreign interests with ingenuous agendas should not qualify for Canadian grants. Local confirmed artists with educational agendas I find nothing wrong with. You obviously as an adult have a problem with subjects that deal below the belly button. And that my dear friend classifies you as a sex-phobic. I wander if you ever had the opportunity to play with your privet parts. I suppose you do that in the closet alone and make sure the lights are out in case any one may be watching. Freedom of expression in the arts is a legitimate indisputable right. Your intellectual impotence puts your blinders on while on a mission to defend idiotic and bipartisan politics. If have been watching the news closely Harper has denied funding to this artists cause because she has spoken publicly against the Tory dictator agenda to free speech. Harper and his pack are bible thumpers when it comes to sex amongst adults, they don’t talk about it. You obviously are confused with regards to your sexual orientation. :r oll::rol l:
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April 12th, 2008, 04:18 PM

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Idiotic.

Refusing to pay for garbage IS NOT censorship.

If you want to make a pornographic movie, fine, feel free, but don't expect me to pay for it.

That is all.

Foreign interests with ingenuous agendas should not qualify for Canadian grants. Local confirmed artists with educational agendas I find nothing wrong with. You obviously as an adult have a problem with subjects that deal below the belly button. And that my dear friend classifies you as a sex-phobic. I wander if you ever had the opportunity to play with your privet parts. I suppose you do that in the closet alone and make sure the lights are out in case any one may be watching. Freedom of expression in the arts is a legitimate indisputable right. Your intellectual impotence puts your blinders on while on a mission to defend idiotic one sided politics. If have been watching the news closely Harper has denied funding to this artists cause because she has spoken publicly against the Tory dictator agenda to free speech. Harper and his pack are bible thumpers when it comes to sex amongst adults, they don’t talk about it. You obviously are confused with regards to your sexual orientation. :r oll::rol l:
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April 12th, 2008, 04:31 PM

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You are a joke. How can you compare Harper,who is committed to fighting radical islam,which wants to destroy Israel,to Hitler? You connect everything wrong in the world to the Conservatives and then liken them to the Nazis.Are you 60 or 6? This bill which will be passed by our ELECTED parliament is designed to keep the fringe groups from recieving our tax dollars to makemovies about lesbians masturbating and that drivel. Good for Harper and co.
Wally you are up side down, what are you talking about Harper defending Canadians and Israel from Islam and Hitler. We are talking about freedom of speech and expression in the arts concerning legitimate Canadian artists here in Canada.. You are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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April 12th, 2008, 05:20 PM

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Wally you are up side down, what are you talking about Harper defending Canadians and Israel from Islam and Hitler. We are talking about freedom of speech and expression in the arts concerning legitimate Canadian artists here in Canada.. You are SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Socrates....TRY and comprehend this.

Nobody is saying you can't make a movie absolutely full of gratuitous violence and group sex. Feel free. Go right ahead. No censhorship.

BUT the elected representatives of the people are fully within their rights to decide which films will get the money that belongs to the people.

This is NOT censorship.

If I walk by a copy of Penthouse on the newstand and buy a copy of Macleans......am I guilty of censoring Penthouse?

NO!

Same thing.....once again, the elected representatives of the people deciding where the people's money should, and should NOT, be spent.

That is their JOB!

Personally, I'm not real happy about them spending my money on ANY of the Arts.....if I want it, I'll buy it, thank you very much.
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April 12th, 2008, 06:03 PM

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Personally, I'm not real happy about them spending my money on ANY of the Arts.....if I want it, I'll buy it, thank you very much.
Amen to that!
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April 12th, 2008, 08:03 PM

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Socrates....TRY and comprehend this.

Nobody is saying you can't make a movie absolutely full of gratuitous violence and group sex. Feel free. Go right ahead. No censhorship.

BUT the elected representatives of the people are fully within their rights to decide which films will get the money that belongs to the people.

This is NOT censorship.

If I walk by a copy of Penthouse on the newstand and buy a copy of Macleans......am I guilty of censoring Penthouse?

NO!

Same thing.....once again, the elected representatives of the people deciding where the people's money should, and should NOT, be spent.

That is their JOB!

Personally, I'm not real happy about them spending my money on ANY of the Arts.....if I want it, I'll buy it, thank you very much.

Hi Colpy, thank you for your participation on my post,
first off I am not looking for grants to produce movies absolutely full of gratuitous violence and group sex..

Secondly, I feel that the elected representatives have not asked any people in the film community which films should be funded and which ones should not. If you are of the opinion that the elected representatives should gage their opinion by asking other groups not associated with fine arts to tell artists what is art and what is not, then my good friend your are suggesting that groups not associated by the very industry of fine arts should decide for them, and that in the eyes of freedom is censorship.

Thirdly, comparing you buying a copy of a MacLean’s over a Penthouse is so out of context, it is like comparing butterflies to elephants.

Fourthly, the elected representatives deciding for the fine arts what is warranted of government support or not with out any dialog on the very subject we are entering the theater of dictatorship. Smile, that is not their Job, we are not in China, we are in North America were freedom of expression in the 21st century should prevail.

Fifthly, you may not be a supporter of fine arts but my dear friend once again fine arts is a heritage which no dictator has the right to mussel.
I hope this can bring some awareness that a country with out fine arts is very BORING AND DULL COUNTRY IN TH EYES OF FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION!!!!!!!!!!
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April 12th, 2008, 08:09 PM

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Amen to that!

:r oll::rol l: Amen to intellectual impotence. How can people be so narrow minded when in fact fine arts is about Canada's heritage!!!!!!!
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April 12th, 2008, 11:53 PM

I go to the theatre all the time. I pay taxes for roads and police and stuff, not to pay for some narcissist's one man play about nothing. If I wanna see a one man play about nothing, I'll buy a ticket ot throw a toonie in the hat myself.

Aren't good artists supposed to be starving anyway.
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April 13th, 2008, 03:09 AM

Quoting Just the Facts
I go to the theatre all the time. I pay taxes for roads and police and stuff, not to pay for some narcissist's one man play about nothing. If I wanna see a one man play about nothing, I'll buy a ticket ot throw a toonie in the hat myself.

Aren't good artists supposed to be starving anyway.
Hypocrisy is the ORA around you my friend, only you can earn doe on the backs of others, artists are people like you, they have families too. I guess the movie you are watching is called intellectual impotence, and you are only the extra drooling and hoping for attention which with mentality like yours you aren't about to get to second base. Sorry example of human intellect.
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April 13th, 2008, 06:07 AM

Not another thread about BullShyte?

Geezus, when does your balloon land S?
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April 13th, 2008, 02:32 PM

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Not another thread about BullShyte?

Geezus, when does your balloon land S?
Hey Bear, first off Fine Arts is not "BullShyte" second this life is not about one topic, this life is about chewing the fat on issues that concern Canadians when it comes to minority Governments who operate as if they were elected as a majority.

You obviously are not paying attention to the bone of contention with regards to the reason why fine arts is last on Harpers agenda. Here let me explain it to you one more time. Harpers partisan politics will not allow him to respect equality for minorities, particularly when it comes to a woman in fine arts simply because she had the intellectual fortitude to criticize Harper the closet bigot about controversial issues such as gays and lesbians. If you and some others on this thread feel that gays and lesbians have no say in Canadian politics, man you and some people here you got serious social anxieties which cause you to look as if you would rather see your selfs as gods gift to humanity than get along with humanity.
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April 13th, 2008, 03:01 PM

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Hey Bear, first off Fine Arts is not "BullShyte" second this life is not about one topic, this life is about chewing the fat on issues that concern Canadians when it comes to minority Governments who operate as if they were elected as a majority.
If it's fine art, I shouldn't have to support it.

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You obviously are not paying attention to the bone of contention with regards to the reason why fine arts is last on Harpers agenda. Here let me explain it to you one more time. Harpers partisan politics will not allow him to respect equality for minorities, particularly when it comes to a woman in fine arts simply because she had the intellectual fortitude to criticize Harper the closet bigot about controversial issues such as gays and lesbians. If you and some others on this thread feel that gays and lesbians have no say in Canadian politics, man you and some people here you got serious social anxieties which cause you to look as if you would rather see your selfs as gods gift to humanity than get along with humanity.
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