Member
Posts: 77 
Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada
Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada
February 29th, 2008, 06:36 PM
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/harper_cadman_offer
OK, so there's a CKNW audio tape with Cadman himself confirming he was offered financial considerations by the Conservative party. Cadman's son-in-law, his daughter, and his wife have all come forward saying it was a 1 million dollar life insurance policy being offered to him by the Conservative party as an inducement to switch parties ahead of a crucial confidence vote 2 years ago.
We have audio tape of Harper confirming the Conservative party had offered financial considerations to Cadman.
Owned?
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/harper_cadman_offer
OK, so there's a CKNW audio tape with Cadman himself confirming he was offered financial considerations by the Conservative party. Cadman's son-in-law, his daughter, and his wife have all come forward saying it was a 1 million dollar life insurance policy being offered to him by the Conservative party as an inducement to switch parties ahead of a crucial confidence vote 2 years ago.
We have audio tape of Harper confirming the Conservative party had offered financial considerations to Cadman.
Owned?
Senate Member
Posts: 5,574 
Location: Saint John, N.B.
Location: Saint John, N.B.
February 29th, 2008, 06:58 PM
Yeah.
I'm a Conservative Party member......
Whoever pulled off this brain-dead venture should be hung out to dry, tarred and feathered, run out of town on a rail. IDIOTS!
And no, Harper didn't do it. If you listen to the tape, he told these morons they were wasting their time.
Harper is WAY too smart to get caught up in that.
I do wonder who the hell had the great idea of denying it all now, however.
That is SOOOOO stupid. Admit it happened, drag those responsible to the RCMP, put it behind you.
Cadman was one of the most honourable men to serve in Parliament.......
BTW, has it occured to anyone it would be IMPOSSIBLE to get a $1,000,000 life insurance policy on a man garaunteed not to live out the year?
Yeah.
I'm a Conservative Party member......
Whoever pulled off this brain-dead venture should be hung out to dry, tarred and feathered, run out of town on a rail. IDIOTS!
And no, Harper didn't do it. If you listen to the tape, he told these morons they were wasting their time.
Harper is WAY too smart to get caught up in that.
I do wonder who the hell had the great idea of denying it all now, however.
That is SOOOOO stupid. Admit it happened, drag those responsible to the RCMP, put it behind you.
Cadman was one of the most honourable men to serve in Parliament.......
BTW, has it occured to anyone it would be IMPOSSIBLE to get a $1,000,000 life insurance policy on a man garaunteed not to live out the year?
Steven Hawking's Tutor
Posts: 4,612
February 29th, 2008, 10:08 PM
It's really a question of principle....
While the theiving Liberals paid off advertising companies for no work and funnelled millions back into the party coffers...well that's clean and clearly identifiable....
When it comes to principle however, we can say...Oh GOSH why wouldn't they just admit it was a lunatic move...find a scapegoat and let's move on....
Nice and easy and the implication is that "See we're transparent and above the unscrupulous caliber of those lying Liberals...."
Hogwash!
If the Liberals weren't so patently stupid and managed to get away with this fraud..(and you can bet the farm that Chretien and Martin and the Liberals got away with things we'll never know about... OR the Conservatives weren't so patently stupid and managed to get away with these lies and manipulations (and you can bet the farm that the Conservatives have gotten away with things we'll never know about.....
Big difference this "party system" offers dumb-ass Canadians who think there's any difference between a red liar and blue liar....
Canadians would hate to have to come to terms with the truth.... our politicians are simply taking advantage of the apathy and disconnectedness of the electorate...like they always have and like they always will until there's jail time and prison sentences....
It's really a question of principle....
While the theiving Liberals paid off advertising companies for no work and funnelled millions back into the party coffers...well that's clean and clearly identifiable....
When it comes to principle however, we can say...Oh GOSH why wouldn't they just admit it was a lunatic move...find a scapegoat and let's move on....
Nice and easy and the implication is that "See we're transparent and above the unscrupulous caliber of those lying Liberals...."
Hogwash!
If the Liberals weren't so patently stupid and managed to get away with this fraud..(and you can bet the farm that Chretien and Martin and the Liberals got away with things we'll never know about... OR the Conservatives weren't so patently stupid and managed to get away with these lies and manipulations (and you can bet the farm that the Conservatives have gotten away with things we'll never know about.....
Big difference this "party system" offers dumb-ass Canadians who think there's any difference between a red liar and blue liar....
Canadians would hate to have to come to terms with the truth.... our politicians are simply taking advantage of the apathy and disconnectedness of the electorate...like they always have and like they always will until there's jail time and prison sentences....
Grossly Underrated
Posts: 6,172
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
Location: In the bush somewhere near Sudbury
February 29th, 2008, 10:35 PM
Woof!
Quoting Kreskin
I don't know if I do either ... but we know how politicians believe they're exempt from laws - and by the time they're caught there's a bigger scam to hide it anyhow.
Not sure I'm buying it Wolf.
Woof!
February 29th, 2008, 10:43 PM
Quoting lone wolf
Great fodder for messageboards, nevertheless.
I don't know if I do either ... but we know how politicians believe they're exempt from laws - and by the time they're caught there's a bigger scam to hide it anyhow.
Woof!
Woof!
Member
Posts: 77
Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada
Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada
March 1st, 2008, 08:06 AM
it might seem odd to bribe a guy by offering to give him "life insurance", but he was going to die so really that's the only thing you could bribe him with. he didn't need the money himself, so it was all about setting up his family.
Quoting TenPenny
my guess is that the conservatives were offering it out of their own pockets, ie. basically just giving him a million dollars.
I would not doubt that he was offered 'financial considerations', but there's one glaring item to me:How could you get a $1million life insurance policy on a guy with a terminal illness?
it might seem odd to bribe a guy by offering to give him "life insurance", but he was going to die so really that's the only thing you could bribe him with. he didn't need the money himself, so it was all about setting up his family.
Member
Posts: 77
Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada
Location: Vancouver B.C., Canada
March 1st, 2008, 08:14 AM
it was definitely in his interests to avoid an election, so i don't really know what's all that principled about it. sure the conservatives were apparently offering a significantly heftier "life insurance" bribe, i guess he deserves credit for opting for the guaranteed $500K policy over the dirty $1mil bribe...
Quoting Walter
honestly, is it really that principled? the only reason cadman supported the liberals in that confidence motion was because he was worried about not having the funds to campaign, and if he couldn't win re-election then he would lose the $500,000 life insurance policy that all members of parliament receive. Good for Cadman to keep his principles; if only Belinda had.
it was definitely in his interests to avoid an election, so i don't really know what's all that principled about it. sure the conservatives were apparently offering a significantly heftier "life insurance" bribe, i guess he deserves credit for opting for the guaranteed $500K policy over the dirty $1mil bribe...
Time Out
Posts: 165
Location: International
Location: International
March 1st, 2008, 09:32 AM
Quoting Colpy
right again, and if there is one, I want the name, I have a couple of people I would like to insure. LOL! Must be one hell of a generous insurance company, or they have more money than brains.
Yeah.
I'm a Conservative Party member......
Whoever pulled off this brain-dead venture should be hung out to dry, tarred and feathered, run out of town on a rail. IDIOTS!
And no, Harper didn't do it. If you listen to the tape, he told these morons they were wasting their time.
Harper is WAY too smart to get caught up in that.
I do wonder who the hell had the great idea of denying it all now, however.
I agree. And isn't it just like the losers (liberals) to always be looking for dirt on others in order to take the onus off of them. The liberals are still smarting over getting ousted and this is the result. They have sunk so low to dig up dirt, they have even dug up a dead man, who cannot tell anything or defend himself, it is disgusting. I would say Canadian politics is getting really dirty. Trash talking does not show any intelligence at all. And we vote for these 'people'.
That is SOOOOO stupid. Admit it happened, drag those responsible to the RCMP, put it behind you.
Cadman was one of the most honourable men to serve in Parliament.......
BTW, has it occured to anyone it would be IMPOSSIBLE to get a $1,000,000 life insurance policy on a man garaunteed not to live out the year?
I'm a Conservative Party member......
Whoever pulled off this brain-dead venture should be hung out to dry, tarred and feathered, run out of town on a rail. IDIOTS!
And no, Harper didn't do it. If you listen to the tape, he told these morons they were wasting their time.
Harper is WAY too smart to get caught up in that.
I do wonder who the hell had the great idea of denying it all now, however.
I agree. And isn't it just like the losers (liberals) to always be looking for dirt on others in order to take the onus off of them. The liberals are still smarting over getting ousted and this is the result. They have sunk so low to dig up dirt, they have even dug up a dead man, who cannot tell anything or defend himself, it is disgusting. I would say Canadian politics is getting really dirty. Trash talking does not show any intelligence at all. And we vote for these 'people'.
That is SOOOOO stupid. Admit it happened, drag those responsible to the RCMP, put it behind you.
Cadman was one of the most honourable men to serve in Parliament.......
BTW, has it occured to anyone it would be IMPOSSIBLE to get a $1,000,000 life insurance policy on a man garaunteed not to live out the year?
Electoral Member
Posts: 701
Location: Canada
Location: Canada
March 1st, 2008, 10:18 AM
What does it take Colpy before you see Harper for what he really is? Harper said he didn't know in Parliament and now the tape contradicts that he did know. The tape also shows he knew a financial incentive was being offered for Cadman's vote, which is illegal and he is heard saying not to pressure the guy too hard which also confirms his allowance of the action. This under his leadership. HE IS RESPONSIBLE.
Quoting Colpy
Yeah.
I'm a Conservative Party member......
Whoever pulled off this brain-dead venture should be hung out to dry, tarred and feathered, run out of town on a rail. IDIOTS!
And no, Harper didn't do it. If you listen to the tape, he told these morons they were wasting their time.
Harper is WAY too smart to get caught up in that.
I do wonder who the hell had the great idea of denying it all now, however.
That is SOOOOO stupid. Admit it happened, drag those responsible to the RCMP, put it behind you.
Cadman was one of the most honourable men to serve in Parliament.......
BTW, has it occured to anyone it would be IMPOSSIBLE to get a $1,000,000 life insurance policy on a man garaunteed not to live out the year?
I'm a Conservative Party member......
Whoever pulled off this brain-dead venture should be hung out to dry, tarred and feathered, run out of town on a rail. IDIOTS!
And no, Harper didn't do it. If you listen to the tape, he told these morons they were wasting their time.
Harper is WAY too smart to get caught up in that.
I do wonder who the hell had the great idea of denying it all now, however.
That is SOOOOO stupid. Admit it happened, drag those responsible to the RCMP, put it behind you.
Cadman was one of the most honourable men to serve in Parliament.......
BTW, has it occured to anyone it would be IMPOSSIBLE to get a $1,000,000 life insurance policy on a man garaunteed not to live out the year?
What does it take Colpy before you see Harper for what he really is? Harper said he didn't know in Parliament and now the tape contradicts that he did know. The tape also shows he knew a financial incentive was being offered for Cadman's vote, which is illegal and he is heard saying not to pressure the guy too hard which also confirms his allowance of the action. This under his leadership. HE IS RESPONSIBLE.
Time Out
Posts: 165
Location: International
Location: International
March 1st, 2008, 10:30 AM
LIberals were far worse for all there scandals and rip offs. Lest we forget. When will people see the Fiberals for what they are. Pathetic grave diggers. I call this grasping for straws in a desperate attempt to regain some face, after losing it all and being ousted out of power. LOL. Now that has got to be a kick in the nuts. Oh well Liberals should have known that you can't play crooked forever, and they were bound to get caught eventually.
LIberals were far worse for all there scandals and rip offs. Lest we forget. When will people see the Fiberals for what they are. Pathetic grave diggers. I call this grasping for straws in a desperate attempt to regain some face, after losing it all and being ousted out of power. LOL. Now that has got to be a kick in the nuts. Oh well Liberals should have known that you can't play crooked forever, and they were bound to get caught eventually.
Electoral Member
Posts: 701
Location: Canada
Location: Canada
March 1st, 2008, 10:31 AM
Who knows what backroom deal this lot could have pulled to make it happen. Offering any sort of financial incentive for such a vote is not only incredibly unethical but also illegal. It's not like they are playing by the rules to begin with, and maybe 'life insurance' is a front for a bribe.
Quoting TenPenny
I would not doubt that he was offered 'financial considerations', but there's one glaring item to me:How could you get a $1million life insurance policy on a guy with a terminal illness?
Who knows what backroom deal this lot could have pulled to make it happen. Offering any sort of financial incentive for such a vote is not only incredibly unethical but also illegal. It's not like they are playing by the rules to begin with, and maybe 'life insurance' is a front for a bribe.
Time Out
Posts: 165
Location: International
Location: International
March 1st, 2008, 10:32 AM
Just as the liberals were and are for all there scandals and rip offs. When will people see the Fiberals for what they are. Pathetic grave diggers. I call this grasping for straws in a desperate attempt to regain some face, after losing it all and being ousted out of power. LOL. Now that has got to be a kick in the nuts. Oh well Liberals should have known that you can't play crooked forever, and they were bound to get caught eventually.
I think Harper has done
Just as the liberals were and are for all there scandals and rip offs. When will people see the Fiberals for what they are. Pathetic grave diggers. I call this grasping for straws in a desperate attempt to regain some face, after losing it all and being ousted out of power. LOL. Now that has got to be a kick in the nuts. Oh well Liberals should have known that you can't play crooked forever, and they were bound to get caught eventually.
I think Harper has done
