It is time for the church to pay taxes.

[Liberalman]

More people are attending church in North America and they are paying billions of dollars to the church and the church pays nothing to the government and it is time they do.

A long time ago the church was an institution that was the centre point of the community and all donations went back to the community so they can have a better way of life.

Now not all the money is going back to the community.

If you look at the international churches like the Catholics and other religions a lot of the hard earned money is going out of the country.

Those churches own a lot of properties that is worth trillions of dollars and a lot of them do not give the same rights to their members that are guaranteed in the bill of rights.

We go to war in other countries and force the people to adopt Christian values and give more rights to women yet in a lot of the religions women have no rights for one example they cannot be priests and they are second class citizens.

It’s time for the churches to open up their books and let the government see how much is going out of the country and that portion should be taxed and if the churches cries the denying of religious freedoms then they should pay taxes on everything they take in.

It is time that churches pay their fair share of the tax burden.

 

[TekJansen]

I just read about a church group buying their former-execultive-of-Chysler-Clergyman a $4million home complete with massive acreage and private security. This is completely untaxable and majorly and morally corrupt.

I think that there should be more taxation of things of this nature, but that churches which do good and help those IN NEED should still have certain tax exemptions.

 

[sanctus]

Can we assume you will expect the same from all non-profit charitable organizations? Or is is just the
Church you are planning to persecute in this regard?

 

[karrie]

1st point. I pay taxes. Now you want to tax my money AGAIN if I give it to a church? But only a church? Not a soup kitchen (whic can own property too), or a women's shelter (again, property owners), but just if I give it to a church?

2nd point. If you don't like the policies of a particular church, don't attend, and don't give your money to them, it's pretty simple. The same applies with any charity or non-profit organization in both Canada and the US. Many have been shown to be mismanaging funds, so people don't support those ones. Instead, you support the ones that are getting the most 'bang for their buck'.

 

[I think not]

Churches, Synagogues, Mosques etc... all can obtain a tax exempt status with Revenue Canada and/or the IRS. If you want them to pay taxes, change the tax law.

 

[TekJansen]

Can we assume you will expect the same from all non-profit charitable organizations? Or is is just the
Church you are planning to persecute in this regard?

Are you adressing me or the O.P.?

I just think there should be a limit to corruption, church or not.

 

[TekJansen]

Or is is just the
Church you are planning to persecute in this regard?

I couldn't leave this 'gem' be.

Yes, the church is SO persecuted. Like saying "Happy Holidays"...because we all know there is only one holiday at that time of year.

 

[sanctus]

Are you adressing me or the O.P.?

I just think there should be a limit to corruption, church or not.

How is the Church corrupt financially? Where are your facts to support such an absurb claim. How do you expect the parishes to financially sustain themselves without contributions from the membership?
What organization can you belong to that does not require you to pay some sort of membership "fee", as it were? Note, financial affairs of the Church have nothing to do with sexual abuse cases, so leave that bit out of your expected rhetroic.

 

[sanctus]

I couldn't leave this 'gem' be.

Yes, the church is SO persecuted. Like saying "Happy Holidays"...because we all know there is only one holiday at that time of year.

Which has what to do with your OP?

 

[TekJansen]

Which has what to do with your OP?

Not entirely sure what you mean....I meant Original Post-er.

I have a hypersensitivity to the idea that the church is persecuted. Both of my girlfriend's parents are Methodist Ministers and they have no problem with 'happy holidays'. I attributed your immediate use of the term 'persecution' to someone who thinks the church is some sort of misunderstood, powerless underdog.

 

[Toro]

What a ridiculous post.

First, we are not in the Middle East to force "Christian" values on Muslims, unless you think democracy is a Christian value. How racist if you believe this.

Second, churches are non-profit enterprises. We don't tax non-profits. If we decide to do so, then all non-profits should be taxed. If we tax churches, we should tax other non-profits like Greenpeace.

 

[sanctus]

Not entirely sure what you mean....I meant Original Post-er.

I have a hypersensitivity to the idea that the church is persecuted. Both of my girlfriend's parents are Methodist Ministers and they have no problem with 'happy holidays'. I attributed your immediate use of the term 'persecution' to someone who thinks the church is some sort of misunderstood, powerless underdog.

You isolated the Church as your target for taxation, that is persecution based on personal bias.

 

[Toro]

Maybe we tax the Liberal Party of Canada.

Just the Liberal Party. None of the others.

 

[sanctus]

Maybe we tax the Liberal Party of Canada.

Just the Liberal Party. None of the others.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

 

[TekJansen]

Are you adressing me or the O.P.?

I just think there should be a limit to corruption, church or not.

I believe you are mistaken, Sanctus. I did NOT isolate the church. You and the OP did.

 

[L Gilbert]

Maybe we tax the Liberal Party of Canada.

Just the Liberal Party. None of the others.

Sounds fine by me.

Seriously, I think if churches must be taxed, then all charities should be, too. After all, don't churches act as charities?

 

[sanctus]

I believe you are mistaken, Sanctus. I did NOT isolate the church. You and the OP did.

My apologies. you are correct. I thought you were the author of the OP.

 

[TekJansen]

Not at all. Thanks for being mannerly.:smile:

 

[Dihead]

charities that spend 80% or more of their donations on administration and stuff like that should be taxed...for example United Way.

other charities that give away 95% of their donations to places or situations that matter shouldn't be taxed.

 

[stevek]

More people are attending church in North America and they are paying billions of dollars to the church and the church pays nothing to the government and it is time they do.

A long time ago the church was an institution that was the centre point of the community and all donations went back to the community so they can have a better way of life.

Now not all the money is going back to the community.

If you look at the international churches like the Catholics and other religions a lot of the hard earned money is going out of the country.

Those churches own a lot of properties that is worth trillions of dollars and a lot of them do not give the same rights to their members that are guaranteed in the bill of rights.

We go to war in other countries and force the people to adopt Christian values and give more rights to women yet in a lot of the religions women have no rights for one example they cannot be priests and they are second class citizens.

It’s time for the churches to open up their books and let the government see how much is going out of the country and that portion should be taxed and if the churches cries the denying of religious freedoms then they should pay taxes on everything they take in.

It is time that churches pay their fair share of the tax burden.

This post reminds me a lot of Ann Coulter's book, Godless: the Church of Liberalism.