Why would Harper even want to call an election?

CDN87

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Really, whoever calls an election with just 32% support has to be the biggest idiot politician I have ever known. I don't know why some people say that Harper will call an election, but if he does it'll be the last thing he'll do as PM. I would only feel safe calling an election ONLY if my party is above 40%. Anything below it is completely beyond me. I don't see much left in Harper really. He has no life in Ontario and Quebec.

I say he's toast before this summer. Do you agree?
 

sanctus

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Really, whoever calls an election with just 32% support has to be the biggest idiot politician I have ever known. I don't know why some people say that Harper will call an election, but if he does it'll be the last thing he'll do as PM. I would only feel safe calling an election ONLY if my party is above 40%. Anything below it is completely beyond me. I don't see much left in Harper really. He has no life in Ontario and Quebec.

I say he's toast before this summer. Do you agree?


I agree, and I don't think the choice will be his. I suspect the other parties will bring the government down by summer.
 

westmanguy

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I like Harper.

I think he will get another minority.

I hate minorities though.. they are so counter-productive.

Our SO OLD system needs to be reformed.. and get rid of these minorities, and lets get some stable 2-4 year reins of gov.

My.. its pathetic having 4 minorities in 5 years.
 

wallyj

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Harper has continually said that he has no intention of calling an election. Why is he not believed? Probably because we have become so cynical about the things our politicians say. Remember when the sponsorship scandal exploded in the news? Paul martin declared that he would not call an election until all the facts were uncovered. Three weeks later he called one because he knew if the facts were out he would not have even achieved his minority. I would be disheartened if Harper pulled a liberal trick and called an election just because his party is ahead in the polls .
 

snfu73

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I agree with the idea that I don't believe calling an election will be harper's idea...it will just come to him. I like minority governments, I think they are far more productive than majority governments, and I can only hope that harper is out come the next election. I do not like that man. That isn't saying he hasn't done some good things...but, overall, he is not someone I can support.
 

blugoo

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I don't mind minority governments. I think it keeps everybody more or less accountable, and there isn't 4 years of autocratic rule from the PMO.

People supposedly always say they don't want elections so often. I say, why not? What's wrong with having the people make their voice heard more often instead of less?

That said, I don't think Harper wants an election now. He wants to wait until he has a chance of a majority. But it won't be up to him.
 

mapleleafgirl

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I don't mind minority governments. I think it keeps everybody more or less accountable, and there isn't 4 years of autocratic rule from the PMO.

People supposedly always say they don't want elections so often. I say, why not? What's wrong with having the people make their voice heard more often instead of less?

That said, I don't think Harper wants an election now. He wants to wait until he has a chance of a majority. But it won't be up to him.


i cant vote yet, but it seems to me having lots of elections costs the taxpayers allot of money, which seems a waste of money to me
 

eh1eh

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I don't know if this is any indication but CBC Toronto just recieved a months supply of video tape yesterday. I can't say how I know but I saw it go there. :|
 

temperance

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How does 1 month of video equal election I missed something pls info enlighten up lift me --lol EhEh
 

eh1eh

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How does 1 month of video equal election I missed something pls info enlighten up lift me --lol EhEh

I'm not aware of any event going on that they would need that much tape for. The last election same thing happened. Simalarly with the olympics. Just is out of the ordinary for them as I see all the video tape they order.
 

Avro

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Feb 12, 2007
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Harper could force an election by tabling a budget the oppostion can't vote for.

If Harper is serious when he says he has no desire for an election why spend money on attack ads?

He's lying.
 

Vicious

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Harper could force an election by tabling a budget the oppostion can't vote for.

If Harper is serious when he says he has no desire for an election why spend money on attack ads?

He's lying.

No he's learned his lesson from the previous elections. If your opponent can't be bother to define himself, define him the way you want him to be. The conservatives have done a wonderful job at the Liberal game. If I say Dion you say - environmental failure, unfocused, barely speaks english, has difficulty making decisions. You may wish it were otherwise but that's what the Canadian television viewer is learning.

A good example of how well this works is the recent poll that showed that Canadians still believe Harper has a hidden agenda (45% of those polled, down from 65% a year or two ago), that is the result of years of Liberals hammering home that message everytime they could. The Cons have just turned the game on Dion that's all.
 

RUEZ

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Harper could force an election by tabling a budget the oppostion can't vote for.

If Harper is serious when he says he has no desire for an election why spend money on attack ads?

He's lying.
That's rediculous, Dion has given him every indication that he will not support the budget regardless of what it holds.
 

ottawabill

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Harper could force an election by tabling a budget the oppostion can't vote for.

If Harper is serious when he says he has no desire for an election why spend money on attack ads?

He's lying.

He has no intention of running another campaign to have another minority is what he is really saying...

I noticed a statement in the first threat saying he's be an idiot for going to the polls with 30% canadian elections are alway in the 30-35% range I'm not sure there has ever been a 40+ popular vote..

btw a poll out yesterday and anoth today puts the conservative way out in front, and popular support for Dion sliding
 

Avro

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That's rediculous, Dion has given him every indication that he will not support the budget regardless of what it holds.

The Libs can't take out this government alone.

Again, if they don't want an election why spend money on attack ads before one is even called?

Harper knows what he is doing and so do I.
 

Avro

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No he's learned his lesson from the previous elections. If your opponent can't be bother to define himself, define him the way you want him to be. The conservatives have done a wonderful job at the Liberal game. If I say Dion you say - environmental failure, unfocused, barely speaks english, has difficulty making decisions. You may wish it were otherwise but that's what the Canadian television viewer is learning.

A good example of how well this works is the recent poll that showed that Canadians still believe Harper has a hidden agenda (45% of those polled, down from 65% a year or two ago), that is the result of years of Liberals hammering home that message everytime they could. The Cons have just turned the game on Dion that's all.

No, he is bending the truth, just like the Libs did in the last election.......and it turned out to be a big mistake for them. Canadians rejected the american style attack ads, they could do it again if Dion takes the high road....but I'm not holding my breath.

I don't want an election but I'll spend money on attack ads for no reason, but let me be clear I don't want an election.....is the bus warmed up yet?

It couldn't be anymore transparent.
 

blugoo

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i cant vote yet, but it seems to me having lots of elections costs the taxpayers allot of money, which seems a waste of money to me

Well first, it depends on what you call lots. Having one every 3 months for example, is excessive and a waste, for sure. Having one every 2 years or so, on the other hand, keeps politicians more on their toes.

As far as waste goes, how many billions have been wasted because of arrogant governments who don't feel they have to account to the people for another handful of years, and can maybe sweep it under the rug by then?

A few million for an election seems awful cheap by comparison.
 

karra

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He has no intention of running another campaign to have another minority is what he is really saying...

I noticed a statement in the first threat saying he's be an idiot for going to the polls with 30% canadian elections are alway in the 30-35% range...
Quite and correct too - no way will he call one - what's the point of winning another minority - but, if Celine forces one over the budget, that's different, the public will punish the Liberals with a timeout akin to the Conservatives under Mulroney - meanwhile, the Tory attack ads have helped Charest in Qweebek as you will see by the third week of March - in the meantime, all Harper need do is simply carry on doing exactly what he's doing - for the nutters, foilers, Lieberal and Dipper sycophants out there - that would be called LEADERSHIP - a concept most if not all the aforementioned have difficulty envisioning, let alone understanding. . . .
 

Vicious

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No, he is bending the truth, just like the Libs did in the last election.......and it turned out to be a big mistake for them. Canadians rejected the american style attack ads, they could do it again if Dion takes the high road....but I'm not holding my breath.

I don't want an election but I'll spend money on attack ads for no reason, but let me be clear I don't want an election.....is the bus warmed up yet?

It couldn't be anymore transparent.

You're confusing reality with perception. Of course he's bending the truth and the 1% of canadians who pay attention to this (like us) will be able to see it for what it is. However for the bulk of the Canadian voters - those same people who support Kyoto but have no idea what it may mean - they will be easily lead. The problem with this kind of attack ad is that it works, so this is the kind of thing political parties do.

Now regarding spending on this ad without an election in sight. Well if there were an election on the go then all of this spending would be monitored (I think - I'm a bit fuzzy on the election spending rules). Since there is no election at the moment the spending is just political spending. And since the Conservatives have a bunch of cash it's a good investment in keeping the popularity of the opponent on the decline.
 
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