Since you believe you live in a democracy...

[MikeyDB]

Canadians have witnessed billions of dollars stolen wasted and mismanaged by successive Canadian governments. We’ve watched the Conservatives “ram down our throats” (Brian Mulroney) commenting on the GST…

We’ve watched Jean Chretién symbolically tear up a piece of paper while while saying… “Da GHestTEE…gone!” Sure….bullshyte.

HRDC an arguable amount but in the neighbourhood of a billion…gone.

Millons (55 million if memory serves) lost and wasted on computers for the DND.

Millions to Chretién’s buddies in Quebec…ADSCAM.

Millons on helicopter purchasing contract defaulted on by the government with hundreds of millions in penalties paid by Canadian taxpayers.

Millions on submarines that sink, catch fire…require upgrades (using technology that’s fifteen years old…)

Billions on a gun registry of absolutely no value of any kind.

The list is lengthy…and virtually nothing done and no jail time worth mentioning handed to our “leaders” who avow responsibility to the electorate…

I have a solution and surely in a “democracy” the voice of the people would be heard and measures taken…right????

Let’s turn the tables on the thieves in Ottawa and Toronto…they (provincial governments and federal governments employ a “claw-back” on disability and other social benefits when there’s an over-lap…

On the basis of an independent audit, the amount of money squandered by politicians would be deducted from the pension pool these scoundrels live off for years after they’ve screwed everyone….

No matter if Lieberal Konservative or the Marijuana Party….the sitting government wastes loses squanders, mismanages etc. some few millions or billions…that same amount is deducted from MPP and MP’s pension plans…

Think that any slimey Canadian politician would care to be held accountable and actually support this kind of measure?

Sure and pigs can fly…

 

[I think not]

Nice rant MikeyDB.

Let’s turn the tables on the thieves in Ottawa and Toronto…

What do you suggest?

 

[MikeyDB]

Nice rant MikeyDB.



What do you suggest?

Thanx ITN...

Civil disobedience. Oka, Ipperwash, Caledonia,FLQ, it's a combination of elements that produce or act as agents of change in a society. It is the government who determines the character of communications between the people and the administration.

NOT violent civil disobedience....

 

[ottawabill]

funny how so much of that rant is about Liberal politics....I digress

You are right...and the part that gets me most is "nothing happens" no one is forced to pay back..no one goes to jail...hell not even a SORRY...

The U.S is not beyond taking a politian to court..what is our problem??

 

[I think not]

Thanx ITN...

Civil disobedience. Oka, Ipperwash, Caledonia,FLQ, it's a combination of elements that produce or act as agents of change in a society. It is the government who determines the character of communications between the people and the administration.

NOT violent civil disobedience....

Love it! A little revolution now and then is a healthy thing.

 

[MikeyDB]

I prefer to believe it's Eschelon at work and not really apathy...

 

[MikeyDB]

Apply the law.


Consider: Stockwell Day and Guliano Zachardelli and Anne McClellan were the people responsible for managing CSIS and the RCMP; if the standard of law that applies to negligence of a private citizen where this negligence resulted in brining harm to another citizen… should just as equally apply.

All the “executives” involved in mismanaging the security of an individual Canadian, who was subsequently incarcerated in a foreign prison where he was tortured, both American and Canadian should be held as accountable as any reasonable man would consider in the case of any private citizen.

If not why not?

 

[MikeyDB]

From the avalance of participation, the conclusion seems obvious...

Who cares?

No one.

Typically Canadian...Hypocrisy in a touque

yeah I care but I don't care enough to talk about it never mind doing something...

 

[BitWhys]

So you hold your little revolution and oust the elected officials and replace them with what? Elected officials?

sounds kind of pointless.

 

[L Gilbert]

Canadians are apathetic. Canadian politicians have no accountability. We need a better system of election. We need a better system of gov't. We need better polticians. We need ..........
Not asking for much are you?
Ontario and BC are at least looking at better system of elections. BC started out years ago looking at Single Transferable votes and had a committee of average people take 3 years to hash out a plan. I don't know how long Ontario's been thinking about it. The rest of Canada?
Also, between BC and Alberta, there are a lot of people thoroughly disgusted with Ottawa and I bet it wouldn't take to much for them to tell Ottawa to foff. Canada couldn't handle that as Alberta, Ontario, and BC are the bread winners of Canada and on top of that Ontario thinks it may be on the verge of being a have-not province.

 

[hermanntrude]

if u guys think canadians are apathetic u should see the UK

 

[L Gilbert]

Yeah. Football plays a much bigger role in UK than politics. Must be a matter of prioritites. lol

 

[hermanntrude]

men in shorts vs men in suits.

 

[MikeyDB]

Oh it's all OK .....

You can vote and everything will be just swell....

 

[AndyF]

Canadians have witnessed billions of dollars stolen wasted and mismanaged by successive Canadian governments. We’ve watched the Conservatives “ram down our throats” (Brian Mulroney) commenting on the GST…

We’ve watched Jean Chretién symbolically tear up a piece of paper while while saying… “Da GHestTEE…gone!” Sure….bullshyte.

HRDC an arguable amount but in the neighbourhood of a billion…gone.

Millons (55 million if memory serves) lost and wasted on computers for the DND.

Millions to Chretién’s buddies in Quebec…ADSCAM.

Millons on helicopter purchasing contract defaulted on by the government with hundreds of millions in penalties paid by Canadian taxpayers.

Millions on submarines that sink, catch fire…require upgrades (using technology that’s fifteen years old…)

Billions on a gun registry of absolutely no value of any kind.

The list is lengthy…and virtually nothing done and no jail time worth mentioning handed to our “leaders” who avow responsibility to the electorate…

I have a solution and surely in a “democracy” the voice of the people would be heard and measures taken…right????

Let’s turn the tables on the thieves in Ottawa and Toronto…they (provincial governments and federal governments employ a “claw-back” on disability and other social benefits when there’s an over-lap…

On the basis of an independent audit, the amount of money squandered by politicians would be deducted from the pension pool these scoundrels live off for years after they’ve screwed everyone….

No matter if Lieberal Konservative or the Marijuana Party….the sitting government wastes loses squanders, mismanages etc. some few millions or billions…that same amount is deducted from MPP and MP’s pension plans…

Think that any slimey Canadian politician would care to be held accountable and actually support this kind of measure?

Sure and pigs can fly…

Maybe it ain't a democracy, but maybe a......errrrr, Monarchy?

In a monarchy a democracy is a placebo given out by permission to the monarch's people who are exposed to the advantages of democracy, and to emulate what they can achieve without permission if they had the courage to do it.

AndyF

 

[MikeyDB]

So Andy are you agreeing that Canadians don't have the temperament to participate in a democratic system...that they need to be led by a monarch or a president or a dictator....no thinking allowed!!?

 

[L Gilbert]

Canada's a monarchy in name only. It's a mix of plutocracy and oligarchy.

 

[MikeyDB]

Does the option of which form of getting screwed over appear on the ballot when Canadians vote?

 

[L Gilbert]

Yup, but it's pointless.

 

[MikeyDB]

Then the vote is pointless and dialogue identifying strategies to address this nonesense is pointless as well...