#1Jan 23rd, 2007
I would like to know why.
Why do you eat meat?
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#2
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
The taste, no tofu crap can replace the taste of a medium rare steak.
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#4
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Rawisbetter!
Ethically? No. Is it bad for you? Yes, if you are a swine and live on bacon and hamburgers.So you don't think it's wrong to eat meat?
#5
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
So it doesn't bother you that innocent animals are being killed for something we don't need to survive?
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#6
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Rawisbetter!
No, I don't lose any sleep over it.So it doesn't bother you that innocent animals are being killed for something we don't need to survive?
#7
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
Thats the nature of the world. We have to live off other organisms, and doing it without animal protein is complicated if you want to achieve the balance of amino acids a balanced diet provides. There are ethical choices one can make when picking out their foods if they are so inclined.
#8
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Rawisbetter!
So it doesn't bother you that innocent animals are being killed for something we don't need to survive?
I personally only eat steaks from convicted felon cattle.
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#9
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
meat is great. I eat it for health reasons, enjoyment, and variety. Eating animal protein, unless you have a medical condition, is the best way to keep your diet balanced. I do think however, that ethical treatment of food animals is something that bears addressing. Just because I'm going to eat it, doesn't mean it deserves to be treated cruelly.
#10
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by thomaska
I personally only eat steaks from convicted felon cattle.
LOLLLLL I gotta borrow that one!
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#11
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Rawisbetter!
I don't need carrots to survive but I eat them anyway. The question is, do we get any value from eating meat. As a species, there is mounting evidence that the answer is yes.So it doesn't bother you that innocent animals are being killed for something we don't need to survive?
http://www.berkeley.edu/news/media/r...-14-1999a.html
As individuals, the question is open for debate. What isn't really open for debate is whether ot not meat is unhealthy in proper quantities. It isn't.
As for being bothered that "innocent animals" are killed I, like the lion don't view it in moral terms. As long as I am not wasting resources I see nothing wrong. In fact, proper animal husbandry coupled with proper farming practises is the best course of actions. If you have some spriritual reasons for not wanting to eat meat then that is entirely your perogative but I don't view the animal's innocence as relevant.
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#12
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Rawisbetter!
What about the innocent vegetables that are slaughtered every year. Peeled , diced, boiled, the screaming parsnips haunt my sleep.So it doesn't bother you that innocent animals are being killed for something we don't need to survive?
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#13
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by darkbeaver
What about the innocent vegetables that are slaughtered every year. Peeled , diced, boiled, the screaming parsnips haunt my sleep.
Carrot Juice is Murder
Listen up brothers and sisters, come here my desperate tale
I speak of our friends of nature, trapped in the dirt like a jail
Vegtables live in oppression, served on out tables each night
This killing of veggies is madness, I say we take up the fight
Salads are only for murderers, cole slaw’s a fascist regime
Don’t think that they don’t have feelings, just cause a radish can’t scream
I’ve heard the screams of the vegetables, watching their skins being peeled
Grated and steamed with no mercy.. how do you think that feels?
Carrot juice constitutes murder.. greenhouses prisons for slaves
It’s time to stop all this gardening.. let’s call a spade a spade.
I saw a man eating celery, so I beat him black and blue
If he ever touches a sprout again, I’ll bite him clean in two
I’m a political prisoner, trapped in a windowless cage
’cause I stopped the slaughter of turnips, by killing five men in a rage
I told the judge when he sentenced me, this is my finest hour..
I’d kill those farmers again, just to save one more cauliflower
I’ve heard the screams of the vegetables, watching their skins being peeled
Grated and steamed with no mercy.. how do you think that feels?
Carrot juice constitutes murder.. greenhouses prisons for slaves
It’s time to stop all this gardening.. let’s call a spade a spade.
How low as people do we dare to stoop
Making our broccolis bleed in the soup
Untie your beans, uncage your tomatoes
Let potted plants free, don’t mash that potato!
I’ve heard the screams of the vegetables, watching their skins being peeled
Grated and steamed with no mercy.. how do you think that feels?
Carrot juice constitutes murder.. greenhouses prisons for slaves
It’s time to stop all this gardening.. let’s call a spade a spade.
Is a spade is a spade is a spade is a... spade
Listen up brothers and sisters, come here my desperate tale
I speak of our friends of nature, trapped in the dirt like a jail
Vegtables live in oppression, served on out tables each night
This killing of veggies is madness, I say we take up the fight
Salads are only for murderers, cole slaw’s a fascist regime
Don’t think that they don’t have feelings, just cause a radish can’t scream
I’ve heard the screams of the vegetables, watching their skins being peeled
Grated and steamed with no mercy.. how do you think that feels?
Carrot juice constitutes murder.. greenhouses prisons for slaves
It’s time to stop all this gardening.. let’s call a spade a spade.
I saw a man eating celery, so I beat him black and blue
If he ever touches a sprout again, I’ll bite him clean in two
I’m a political prisoner, trapped in a windowless cage
’cause I stopped the slaughter of turnips, by killing five men in a rage
I told the judge when he sentenced me, this is my finest hour..
I’d kill those farmers again, just to save one more cauliflower
I’ve heard the screams of the vegetables, watching their skins being peeled
Grated and steamed with no mercy.. how do you think that feels?
Carrot juice constitutes murder.. greenhouses prisons for slaves
It’s time to stop all this gardening.. let’s call a spade a spade.
How low as people do we dare to stoop
Making our broccolis bleed in the soup
Untie your beans, uncage your tomatoes
Let potted plants free, don’t mash that potato!
I’ve heard the screams of the vegetables, watching their skins being peeled
Grated and steamed with no mercy.. how do you think that feels?
Carrot juice constitutes murder.. greenhouses prisons for slaves
It’s time to stop all this gardening.. let’s call a spade a spade.
Is a spade is a spade is a spade is a... spade
If god didn't want people to eat animals, why did he make them out of meat?
#14
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Rawisbetter!
So it doesn't bother you that innocent animals are being killed for something we don't need to survive?
I didnt see this.....You are totally wrong.....some people cant metabolise vegtable proteins. I tried being Vegan for 6 months and got very anemic and very sick. My doc told me I couldnt pull it off and I wasnt to try anymore.
#15
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
Humans are omnivorous animals. While vegan diets are viable, they are very difficult to follow religiously. To be vegan for moral issues is close to being religious. I sure hope you do not own anything leather. Shoes? Belts? What about the rape and pillage of old growth forest to supply us with paper. Do you boycott all paper products? Are the ones you use certified to be NOT from old growth forests? Choices have to be made based on morals, health and costs (yes, money does influence choices).
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#16
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by RomSpaceKnight
I find it especially funny when people who DO eat meat think it's wrong to wear leather. What the heck do they think should be done with the skins of all the animals they eat? If animals are being slaughtered for meat, then all parts should be put to the best use possible. I'd be angrier if people DIDN'T wear leather.I sure hope you do not own anything leather. Shoes? Belts?
#18
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
Mmm, that looks good. I eat tofu from time to time, and I actually don't eat that much meat, probably less than I should be eating. I do tend to eat more dairy and whole wheats than they recommend. But that's not because of ethical choices.
#19
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
no thank you. Ive tried it like a good girlie should try everything once.
#20
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by karrie
I find it especially funny when people who DO eat meat think it's wrong to wear leather. What the heck do they think should be done with the skins of all the animals they eat? If animals are being slaughtered for meat, then all parts should be put to the best use possible. I'd be angrier if people DIDN'T wear leather.
My friend was a vegetarian for a bit and finall I got her to see how hyocritical it was for her to wear leather and carry a leather purse, plussssssssss, she had a rabbit coat!
#21
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
I eat no meat or fish-no animals life of any kind. Been eating this way for years now.
#22
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
A lot of wildlife is killed by clearing land for agriculture plus all the pestecides and chemicals used so even vegetarians are responsible for the death of animals and organic farming does not help because it requires two to three times more land to grow the same amount of food as regular farming so that means bigger fields and more wild habitat lost.
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#23
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Tonington
Mmm, that looks good. I eat tofu from time to time, and I actually don't eat that much meat, probably less than I should be eating. I do tend to eat more dairy and whole wheats than they recommend. But that's not because of ethical choices.
Having a husband with gout, we eat a lot of tofu. Most animal proteins, and many veggies, contain a compound that is bad for gout. So I use a lot of tofu to help supplement his protein. Red meat is a necessity for me though, as I get very anemic. So, it's a major balancing act, trying to keep him from having an attack, and me from being ill. It sometimes means I get to cook two different meals.
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#24
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by canadarocks
Well, not everyone quits for ethical reasons, but that is kind of funny. I know my sister quit because she honestly didn't like meat. But, she found out that she much prefers eating meat, to getting iron shots in the hip.My friend was a vegetarian for a bit and finall I got her to see how hyocritical it was for her to wear leather and carry a leather purse, plussssssssss, she had a rabbit coat!
#25
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
Meat...
1: As a society, we eat too much of it. There ARE alternative sources of protein and face it, most people could survive very well by eating meat occasionally. I rarely eat it myself and I feel fine. I know many hard core vegetarians who have 10 times the energy that I do. A great majority of meat eaters eat it because it is conveniant and it tastes good. They are just not ready to make the effort to change their lifestyle.
2: If all the energy and ressources put into feeding the animals that are to be eaten by us was put into producing alternative food sources we would end up with MORE food for MORE people.
3: Most meat that we eat comes from animals that were treated like ****. We tend to forget animals have the potential to suffer. A chicken deserves to live like a chicken. That means NOT into a ridiculously small cage with its beak cut off so it won't kill its neighbor.
So in summary, I think it's OK to eat meat as long as the animals are treated with dignity and as long as it is eaten with moderation.
How about once a week? How would YOU deal that?
1: As a society, we eat too much of it. There ARE alternative sources of protein and face it, most people could survive very well by eating meat occasionally. I rarely eat it myself and I feel fine. I know many hard core vegetarians who have 10 times the energy that I do. A great majority of meat eaters eat it because it is conveniant and it tastes good. They are just not ready to make the effort to change their lifestyle.
2: If all the energy and ressources put into feeding the animals that are to be eaten by us was put into producing alternative food sources we would end up with MORE food for MORE people.
3: Most meat that we eat comes from animals that were treated like ****. We tend to forget animals have the potential to suffer. A chicken deserves to live like a chicken. That means NOT into a ridiculously small cage with its beak cut off so it won't kill its neighbor.
So in summary, I think it's OK to eat meat as long as the animals are treated with dignity and as long as it is eaten with moderation.
How about once a week? How would YOU deal that?
#26
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
Do you know how much food it takes to raise one kg of fish? It's entirely dependant on the species, but some are as low as 1.1 kg, by far the most efficient animals at converting food to flesh.
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#27
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Rawisbetter!
I like it.I would like to know why.
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#28
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007
Different people eat meat for different reasons. My family, for example, didn't have the money to buy much food as I was growing up. Fortunately, my mother was a very well known taxidermist in the area and, as payment for her beautiful work, she had access to all the wild game we needed to feed our family for years.
Now that my sister and I are living on our own, going to school and working hard to pay the bills, we find we don't have enough money to buy meat at all. Every now and then, as a very special treat, we buy ourselves a nice big slab of steak (I'm talking like once a month here...). Most of the time we live off of various beans and potatoes... and rice, rice is cheap. I can say now that my diet is mostly vegetarian, and my health is taking a toll. I'm obviously not getting all of the nutrients I need, and because of it my immune system is very poor.
Personally I see nothing wrong with eating meat. Humans, like many other animals, are predators. I do not agree with the cruel treatment of our food, so when I do get the chance, I tend to eat free-range meat, or just call up my mom's hunter friends and buy some wild game off them ^.^
Now that my sister and I are living on our own, going to school and working hard to pay the bills, we find we don't have enough money to buy meat at all. Every now and then, as a very special treat, we buy ourselves a nice big slab of steak (I'm talking like once a month here...). Most of the time we live off of various beans and potatoes... and rice, rice is cheap. I can say now that my diet is mostly vegetarian, and my health is taking a toll. I'm obviously not getting all of the nutrients I need, and because of it my immune system is very poor.
Personally I see nothing wrong with eating meat. Humans, like many other animals, are predators. I do not agree with the cruel treatment of our food, so when I do get the chance, I tend to eat free-range meat, or just call up my mom's hunter friends and buy some wild game off them ^.^
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#29
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by Rawisbetter!
I have canines and incisors in my cakehole for a reason. It isn't wrong.So you don't think it's wrong to eat meat?
#30
Re: Why do you eat meat?
Jan 23rd, 2007Quote: Originally Posted by s_lone
Meat...
1: As a society, we eat too much of it. There ARE alternative sources of protein and face it, most people could survive very well by eating meat occasionally. I rarely eat it myself and I feel fine. I know many hard core vegetarians who have 10 times the energy that I do. A great majority of meat eaters eat it because it is conveniant and it tastes good. They are just not ready to make the effort to change their lifestyle.
2: If all the energy and ressources put into feeding the animals that are to be eaten by us was put into producing alternative food sources we would end up with MORE food for MORE people.
3: Most meat that we eat comes from animals that were treated like ****. We tend to forget animals have the potential to suffer. A chicken deserves to live like a chicken. That means NOT into a ridiculously small cage with its beak cut off so it won't kill its neighbor.
So in summary, I think it's OK to eat meat as long as the animals are treated with dignity and as long as it is eaten with moderation.
How about once a week? How would YOU deal that?
Your last statement I like. Except for one tiny problem . Are you aware of how much free range meat costs? I think your comments are quite valid but not plausable for the majority of poor.
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