House Member
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August 27th, 2006, 11:55 PM
I think they wouldn't really need our help, hell they probably don't even care about health care, they probably just want NAFTA.
It would be infinately easier to manage them than the arctic..but no one would suggest making Nunuvut an indepdant nation so we don't have to deal with them.
Carribean nations wanting to join Canada should be encouraged, we can create a stronger common market and a stronger nation in general. Hell, I'd even let Haiti join Canada if it wanted..just not nearly as quickly, it would need a helluva lot of work to keep that one from being a horrible disaster, but it still could be done after 10-15 years of improvement.
I think they wouldn't really need our help, hell they probably don't even care about health care, they probably just want NAFTA.
It would be infinately easier to manage them than the arctic..but no one would suggest making Nunuvut an indepdant nation so we don't have to deal with them.
Carribean nations wanting to join Canada should be encouraged, we can create a stronger common market and a stronger nation in general. Hell, I'd even let Haiti join Canada if it wanted..just not nearly as quickly, it would need a helluva lot of work to keep that one from being a horrible disaster, but it still could be done after 10-15 years of improvement.
Genius
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August 28th, 2006, 12:02 AM
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Just out of curiosity, how do you feel about defending the north in Canada? We spend a lot of money there too, and there's probably a similar number of people living there. Does the average joe sixpack benefit from the north any more than from the caribbean?
We can't go to the Caribbean now? Why would we want to pay for their health, education and so on? We'd just be setting ourselves up for future political issues. Canada already has too much diversity and multi this and multi that as it is.
question: Do you think the average Joe sixpack would benefit from this sun and surf?
question: Do you think the average Joe sixpack would benefit from this sun and surf?
Clever Clogs
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August 28th, 2006, 07:53 AM
I think it is sad that some would suggest that Canada couldn't administer it. Aren't we big, rich Canada? I would support it, but do they want it?
How hard would it be? I haven't heard of them in the news at all. No famine, no war, no horrifying poverty. Sounds good, let's do it.
I think it is sad that some would suggest that Canada couldn't administer it. Aren't we big, rich Canada? I would support it, but do they want it?
How hard would it be? I haven't heard of them in the news at all. No famine, no war, no horrifying poverty. Sounds good, let's do it.
Bright Spark
Posts: 313
August 28th, 2006, 09:34 AM
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Probably billions. But I've been to Hawaii a couple times and am not going to go to the T & Cs instead. Canadians travel to Europe even though there is European heritage in Canada. It's also no less expensive for someone in Edmonton to vacation in Nova Scotia because it's 'Canadian' than it is to fly to California or elsewhere outside the country.
Out of curiosity,
how much do Canadians spend in Hawaii, The Grand Caymans, Jamaica, and other tropical resorts. With modern hotels and facilities how much would Americans spend in the "New" Turks and Calcos? Wouldn't it be a better thing for Canadians to spend their money "in Canada" so to speak? Like I said before, it's not going to happen anyway.
how much do Canadians spend in Hawaii, The Grand Caymans, Jamaica, and other tropical resorts. With modern hotels and facilities how much would Americans spend in the "New" Turks and Calcos? Wouldn't it be a better thing for Canadians to spend their money "in Canada" so to speak? Like I said before, it's not going to happen anyway.
House Member
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August 28th, 2006, 09:38 AM
Canada's federal system with strong provincial powers is enticing to small nations who have trouble defending their national interests from the big fish in the sea in the same way the EU is. They give up their foriegn policy (which isn't much for some nations) and gain stability and and representation on the world stage.
Canada's federal system with strong provincial powers is enticing to small nations who have trouble defending their national interests from the big fish in the sea in the same way the EU is. They give up their foriegn policy (which isn't much for some nations) and gain stability and and representation on the world stage.
Executive Member
Posts: 9,137
August 28th, 2006, 10:25 AM
Athabaska wrote:
Athabaska wrote:
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I've been to Hawaii as well and as far as I'm concerned, I prefer Cacun or the other Mexican beach resorts. From Vancouver or Edmonton, or most major Canadian cities Cancun is a single, non-stop, direct flight. The Turks and Calcos would be no different. Hawaii is a direct flight from Vancouver. I don't know about Edmonton and points east.
Probably billions. But I've been to Hawaii a couple times and am not going to go to the T & Cs instead. Canadians travel to Europe even though there is European heritage in Canada. It's also no less expensive for someone in Edmonton to vacation in Nova Scotia because it's 'Canadian' than it is to fly to California or elsewhere outside the country.
Bright Spark
Posts: 313
August 28th, 2006, 10:37 AM
The T and C's are a dot in the ocean. They aren't in the league of Hawaii or Mexican resorts. There is no room for any scale of development that would make a dent in Canadians going south. I've also been to the Yucatan and I go more for the surrounding hiking, history and more than for laying on a beach (which I never do). The T and C's are probably already an environmental disaster and don't need multiples more development to accomodate wealthy Canadians needing a tropical condo or villa.
The T and C's are a dot in the ocean. They aren't in the league of Hawaii or Mexican resorts. There is no room for any scale of development that would make a dent in Canadians going south. I've also been to the Yucatan and I go more for the surrounding hiking, history and more than for laying on a beach (which I never do). The T and C's are probably already an environmental disaster and don't need multiples more development to accomodate wealthy Canadians needing a tropical condo or villa.
Bright Spark
Posts: 277
August 28th, 2006, 12:06 PM
Google is a great tool. There's references to these islands and Camnada. "There are 8 islands which combined are twice the size of Denman Island". I looked up Denman Island and it's a small island near Vancouver. It's hard to find but look near a town called Comox. For those out east think of an area 1/14th the size of PEI with 3 times the population density.
Google is a great tool. There's references to these islands and Camnada. "There are 8 islands which combined are twice the size of Denman Island". I looked up Denman Island and it's a small island near Vancouver. It's hard to find but look near a town called Comox. For those out east think of an area 1/14th the size of PEI with 3 times the population density.
Bright Spark
Posts: 313
August 28th, 2006, 02:53 PM
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Jaun, despite occassional disagreements I know you are an intelligent fellow from your postings but you did zeros incorrrectly. Jamaica isn't 2.5 times the size of these islands but 25 times the size.
On the other hand, Jamaica is two and a half times the 430 sq. km. of the T & C and has 2.7 million people compared with about 25,000 on the T & C. This is all a futile exercise because it won't happen anyway.
Knows No Bounds
Posts: 3,154
August 28th, 2006, 06:16 PM
If those islands are allowed to join Canada then the whole deal should be opened up again. Eastern Ontario deserves independence as much as any other area of the country. And a lot of us want it. The islands would become a major entry point for illegals and frankly we're tired of the dilution and diminution of Canadian citizenship in these parts.
If those islands are allowed to join Canada then the whole deal should be opened up again. Eastern Ontario deserves independence as much as any other area of the country. And a lot of us want it. The islands would become a major entry point for illegals and frankly we're tired of the dilution and diminution of Canadian citizenship in these parts.
