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August 9th, 2006, 04:35 PM
Colpy as usual I agree with what you say.
I want to know why the left is so intent on making anything Harper says evil.
You know the next leader of the liberal party will probably be one who has the same stance on the middle east as harper has.
I swear the left on this board and in this country are all about propaganda. EVERYTHING is twisted.
Colpy as usual I agree with what you say.
I want to know why the left is so intent on making anything Harper says evil.
You know the next leader of the liberal party will probably be one who has the same stance on the middle east as harper has.
I swear the left on this board and in this country are all about propaganda. EVERYTHING is twisted.
Newbie
Posts: 19
August 9th, 2006, 04:39 PM
Are you guys really trying to say that Harper was talking about the future of the confilict when he said he is sure Israel has made a "measured response"???
and I am also hard pressed to see how his position CHANGED, he simply said that now it is very hard to say what the appropriate action is. Granted that is a diplomatic thing to say. But as YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW we as Canada don't really have a say in what Israel should or shouldn't do, we dont' have all the details, we aren't the ones being attacked by terrorists, I have said it before and I will say it again.. (granted this time a shorter version)
Who are WE to demand anything in this crisis.
Are you guys really trying to say that Harper was talking about the future of the confilict when he said he is sure Israel has made a "measured response"???
and I am also hard pressed to see how his position CHANGED, he simply said that now it is very hard to say what the appropriate action is. Granted that is a diplomatic thing to say. But as YOU ALL SHOULD KNOW we as Canada don't really have a say in what Israel should or shouldn't do, we dont' have all the details, we aren't the ones being attacked by terrorists, I have said it before and I will say it again.. (granted this time a shorter version)
Who are WE to demand anything in this crisis.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,202
August 9th, 2006, 07:31 PM
Sigh
Here comes the rhetoric again
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Leftie is a word
They both can spell
Nathaniel, lefties don't disagree with Harper's statements just because he is conservative. They disagree with his stance. And yes, if a Liberal takes the same stance to ally themselves (and therefore by proxy, me) with Bush in the American Imperialization of the world, then I certainly will disagree with their views. Politicians arent really representing ANY party these days- ergo what does it matter really when they cross the floor- they dont care about what party they represent!
Who are WE to demand a say in critical world issues???????
Well Nathaniel, I would say that Canada is a major country in the world that professes to be a peace loving peace promoting nation, that cares about issues that may lead to a more extensive war that requires more of our troops to be sent to slaughter and to be slaughtered. I would say that we are a nation of many cultures with many citizens from homelands in the area of the Middle East who are directly affected by this war right now. I would say we are a powerful wealthy nation who has the potential to truely assist in a peace process, as long as we arent just sucked in to follow the US stance.
But, there I go getting my leftist emotions all heated up. I should just go and watch some nice pacifying mind numbing Cultural American TV like Survivor or Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire!!!!!!
Sigh
Here comes the rhetoric again
From the boards ITN
Joined by Nathaniel
Leftie is a word
They both can spell
Nathaniel, lefties don't disagree with Harper's statements just because he is conservative. They disagree with his stance. And yes, if a Liberal takes the same stance to ally themselves (and therefore by proxy, me) with Bush in the American Imperialization of the world, then I certainly will disagree with their views. Politicians arent really representing ANY party these days- ergo what does it matter really when they cross the floor- they dont care about what party they represent!
Who are WE to demand a say in critical world issues???????
Well Nathaniel, I would say that Canada is a major country in the world that professes to be a peace loving peace promoting nation, that cares about issues that may lead to a more extensive war that requires more of our troops to be sent to slaughter and to be slaughtered. I would say that we are a nation of many cultures with many citizens from homelands in the area of the Middle East who are directly affected by this war right now. I would say we are a powerful wealthy nation who has the potential to truely assist in a peace process, as long as we arent just sucked in to follow the US stance.
But, there I go getting my leftist emotions all heated up. I should just go and watch some nice pacifying mind numbing Cultural American TV like Survivor or Who Wants to Marry a Millionaire!!!!!!
Clever Clogs
Posts: 647
August 9th, 2006, 08:48 PM
Shannon I don't think this article at all supports the view about Lebanese Canadians that you have been espousing. If this is the level of article you typically read it clarifies why you post what you do.
As a counter here is an article by Pat Buchannan who is a conservative explaining the liabllity of an overly broad definition of terrorism. I'll include another article by Bob Novak another conservative.
http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/R...ng_with_israel
http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/P...ew_middle_east
Shannon I don't think this article at all supports the view about Lebanese Canadians that you have been espousing. If this is the level of article you typically read it clarifies why you post what you do.
As a counter here is an article by Pat Buchannan who is a conservative explaining the liabllity of an overly broad definition of terrorism. I'll include another article by Bob Novak another conservative.
http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/R...ng_with_israel
http://www.townhall.com/Columnists/P...ew_middle_east
Clever Clogs
Posts: 647
August 9th, 2006, 09:07 PM
Harper is really in trouble on the Middle East because he has not inspired any confidence in any other way. It does seem like he is in a hurry to make extreme position statements on the Middle East and other places without really thinking through what he is doing. The feeling I get is that Bush has not been that receptive to him and so Harper's tail wagging has become more pronounced.
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Harper only became PM because of the corruption of the liberals. He promised to change government and make it more accountable. Harper decided he would rather use the corrupt administrative system and existing group patronage to seek a majority.
Colpy as usual I agree with what you say.
I want to know why the left is so intent on making anything Harper says evil.
You know the next leader of the liberal party will probably be one who has the same stance on the middle east as harper has.
I swear the left on this board and in this country are all about propaganda. EVERYTHING is twisted.
I want to know why the left is so intent on making anything Harper says evil.
You know the next leader of the liberal party will probably be one who has the same stance on the middle east as harper has.
I swear the left on this board and in this country are all about propaganda. EVERYTHING is twisted.
Harper is really in trouble on the Middle East because he has not inspired any confidence in any other way. It does seem like he is in a hurry to make extreme position statements on the Middle East and other places without really thinking through what he is doing. The feeling I get is that Bush has not been that receptive to him and so Harper's tail wagging has become more pronounced.
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Posts: 97
Location: Montreal, Canada
Location: Montreal, Canada
August 10th, 2006, 09:35 AM
Hezbollah happens to be one of those terrorist groups. I have nothing against my fellow Citizens of Lebanese origin, provided they don't belong to Hezbollah. I'm quite sure that the great majority of those Lebanese Canadians or Americans who are here in North America do not belong to Hezbollah as they were screened prior to settling here.
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Sanch, I don't distinguish between one terrorist group and another. To me, a terrorist is a terrorist and any group that we've tagged as terrorist is on our list in our ongoing war against terror. That includes homegrown terrorism as well (ie the FLQ).
Shannon I don't think this article at all supports the view about Lebanese Canadians that you have been espousing. If this is the level of article you typically read it clarifies why you post what you do.
Hezbollah happens to be one of those terrorist groups. I have nothing against my fellow Citizens of Lebanese origin, provided they don't belong to Hezbollah. I'm quite sure that the great majority of those Lebanese Canadians or Americans who are here in North America do not belong to Hezbollah as they were screened prior to settling here.
Clever Clogs
Posts: 647
August 10th, 2006, 10:04 AM
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Hezbollah happens to be one of those terrorist groups. I have nothing against my fellow Citizens of Lebanese origin, provided they don't belong to Hezbollah. I'm quite sure that the great majority of those Lebanese Canadians or Americans who are here in North America do not belong to Hezbollah as they were screened prior to settling here.
This does sound more agreeable and workable in a multiethnic society.
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Sanch, I don't distinguish between one terrorist group and another. To me, a terrorist is a terrorist and any group that we've tagged as terrorist is on our list in our ongoing war against terror. That includes homegrown terrorism as well (ie the FLQ).
Shannon I don't think this article at all supports the view about Lebanese Canadians that you have been espousing. If this is the level of article you typically read it clarifies why you post what you do.
Hezbollah happens to be one of those terrorist groups. I have nothing against my fellow Citizens of Lebanese origin, provided they don't belong to Hezbollah. I'm quite sure that the great majority of those Lebanese Canadians or Americans who are here in North America do not belong to Hezbollah as they were screened prior to settling here.
what green dots?
Posts: 3,157
August 10th, 2006, 10:36 AM
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that's right. stick a pro-Israeli propaganda inspired label on one side of the conflict and adjust your views accordingly.
Hezbollah happens to be one of those terrorist groups. I have nothing against my fellow Citizens of Lebanese origin, provided they don't belong to Hezbollah. I'm quite sure that the great majority of those Lebanese Canadians or Americans who are here in North America do not belong to Hezbollah as they were screened prior to settling here.
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Sheikh Izz el-Dine said the spin campaign against Hezbollah is designed to provide Israel with an excuse for another invasion of Lebanon.
Member
Posts: 97
Location: Montreal, Canada
Location: Montreal, Canada
August 10th, 2006, 12:23 PM
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Absolutely, Sanch. We are indeed fortunate here in North America to live in a multiethnic society.
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Hezbollah happens to be one of those terrorist groups. I have nothing against my fellow Citizens of Lebanese origin, provided they don't belong to Hezbollah. I'm quite sure that the great majority of those Lebanese Canadians or Americans who are here in North America do not belong to Hezbollah as they were screened prior to settling here.
This does sound more agreeable and workable in a multiethnic society.
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Sanch, I don't distinguish between one terrorist group and another. To me, a terrorist is a terrorist and any group that we've tagged as terrorist is on our list in our ongoing war against terror. That includes homegrown terrorism as well (ie the FLQ).
Shannon I don't think this article at all supports the view about Lebanese Canadians that you have been espousing. If this is the level of article you typically read it clarifies why you post what you do.
Hezbollah happens to be one of those terrorist groups. I have nothing against my fellow Citizens of Lebanese origin, provided they don't belong to Hezbollah. I'm quite sure that the great majority of those Lebanese Canadians or Americans who are here in North America do not belong to Hezbollah as they were screened prior to settling here.
