Forced Relocation of Atlantic Unemployed?

[FiveParadox]

The Liberal Party of Canada today expressed outrage over the comments of Brian Jean, M.P., the Member for Fort McMurray—Athabasca and Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities, in relation to how best to approach issues of unemployment in our Atlantic Provinces of Canada — suggestions that perhaps it would be better to force unemployed citizens to relocate, than to continue to issue Employment Insurance payments for those persons.

Jean-Claude D'Amours, M.P., the Member for Madawaska—Restigouche, gave a statement in relation to the issue, in which he denounced the comments, and questioned why a member of the Government of Canada would attempt to further endeavours to force citizens out of their homes as a means to combat unemployment, as opposed to supporting the regional development plans set forth by the previous Government of Canada.

Jean-Claude D'Amours[/color], M.P.,]What Mr. Jean doesn't seem to understand is that Atlantic Canadians are not cattle that should be herded from one area of the country to the next in search of greener pastures. [...] As a Parliamentary Secretary, who speaks for the government, Mr. Jean should know better. [...] This is appalling. Forced relocation is a violation of freedom of choice. Instead of unrealistic and undemocratic solutions like forced relocation of Canadians, the Conservatives should further the actions taken by the former Liberal government to support regional development where the population currently exists.

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[JonB2004]

RE: Forced Relocation of

I'd love to give that Conservative MP a good kick in the ass.

 

[Kreskin]

Where does it say forced relocation? Do people want to work or not? Why people want to to rot in unemployment, just because it's close to mom, is beyond me.

 

[FiveParadox]

The previous Government had set up initiatives to develop more opportunities for employment in regions where there are unemployment issues; however, instead of continuing to invest in and develop those initiatives, as has been suggested by Mr. Jean before the House of Commons Standing Committee on Human Resource Development, the Government seems to think that where these employment issues do arise, no effort should be made to create those employment opportunities, and that, rather, the unemployed affected should be forced to leave if they want work.

 

[BitWhys]

RE: Forced Relocation of

This one's not complicated at all. Harper's buddies back in Calgary are looking for Newfies to clean their pools for them.

 

[Jersay]

Well not to clean pools. But that is the issue. Instead of building infrastructure in the maritimes, instead why don't not all but some unemployed Maritime people move to Alberta or Oilberta for jobs so they don't have to pay as much into EI.

 

[the caracal kid]

doesn't such an idea undermine part of our charter of rights?

i mean, we are free to move about the country if we choose, for travel or economic reasons, which also implies we are free to stay where we are. It is our choice.

If alberta wants more workers from elsewhere, they will just have to up the incentives to draw said workers. Cons usually are for the government keeping out of industry, so they should do so.

 

[Kreskin]

Re: RE: Forced Relocation of Atlantic Unemployed?

The previous Government had set up initiatives to develop more opportunities for employment in regions where there are unemployment issues; however, instead of continuing to invest in and develop those initiatives, as has been suggested by Mr. Jean before the House of Commons Standing Committee on Human Resource Development, the Government seems to think that where these employment issues do arise, no effort should be made to create those employment opportunities, and that, rather, the unemployed affected should be forced to leave if they want work.

When you create false economies they eventually implode. The BC Skeena Mill an example of an NDP make work project.

 

[Kreskin]

Re: RE: Forced Relocation of Atlantic Unemployed?

doesn't such an idea undermine part of our charter of rights?

i mean, we are free to move about the country if we choose, for travel or economic reasons, which also implies we are free to stay where we are. It is our choice.

If alberta wants more workers from elsewhere, they will just have to up the incentives to draw said workers. Cons usually are for the government keeping out of industry, so they should do so.

No one is being forced to do anything. If I read what he said correctly they would assist in the relocation of anyone wanting to go to Alberta, where the work is. If they want to stay where they are that's fine, just don't expect a propped up pulp mill.

 

[BitWhys]

Re: RE: Forced Relocation of Atlantic Unemployed?

When you create false economies they eventually implode. The BC Skeena Mill an example of an NDP make work project.

I suggest you take a closer look at the head start public money gave to Alberta oil before you start jumping to conclusions.

 

[Kreskin]

Re: RE: Forced Relocation of Atlantic Unemployed?

When you create false economies they eventually implode. The BC Skeena Mill an example of an NDP make work project.

I suggest you take a closer look at the head start public money gave to Alberta oil before you start jumping to conclusions.

I wasn't jumping to the conclusion that people would be forcibly relocated.

 

[BitWhys]

RE: Forced Relocation of

no shit sherlock

 

[Kreskin]

Re: RE: Forced Relocation of

no shit sherlock

If you have a point, make one.

 

[Kreskin]

The Liberal Party of Canada today expressed outrage over the comments of Brian Jean, M.P., the Member for Fort McMurray—Athabasca and Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities, in relation to how best to approach issues of unemployment in our Atlantic Provinces of Canada — suggestions that perhaps it would be better to force unemployed citizens to relocate, than to continue to issue Employment Insurance payments for those persons.

Jean-Claude D'Amours, M.P., the Member for Madawaska—Restigouche, gave a statement in relation to the issue, in which he denounced the comments, and questioned why a member of the Government of Canada would attempt to further endeavours to force citizens out of their homes as a means to combat unemployment, as opposed to supporting the regional development plans set forth by the previous Government of Canada.

Jean-Claude D'Amours[/color], M.P.,]What Mr. Jean doesn't seem to understand is that Atlantic Canadians are not cattle that should be herded from one area of the country to the next in search of greener pastures. [...] As a Parliamentary Secretary, who speaks for the government, Mr. Jean should know better. [...] This is appalling. Forced relocation is a violation of freedom of choice. Instead of unrealistic and undemocratic solutions like forced relocation of Canadians, the Conservatives should further the actions taken by the former Liberal government to support regional development where the population currently exists.

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Where does it refer to people being denied EI? I can't find reference to it.

 

[Colpy]

The Liberal Party of Canada today expressed outrage over the comments of Brian Jean, M.P., the Member for Fort McMurray—Athabasca and Parliamentary Secretary to the Minister of Transport, Infrastructure and Communities, in relation to how best to approach issues of unemployment in our Atlantic Provinces of Canada — suggestions that perhaps it would be better to force unemployed citizens to relocate, than to continue to issue Employment Insurance payments for those persons.

Jean-Claude D'Amours, M.P., the Member for Madawaska—Restigouche, gave a statement in relation to the issue, in which he denounced the comments, and questioned why a member of the Government of Canada would attempt to further endeavours to force citizens out of their homes as a means to combat unemployment, as opposed to supporting the regional development plans set forth by the previous Government of Canada.

Jean-Claude D'Amours[/color], M.P.,]What Mr. Jean doesn't seem to understand is that Atlantic Canadians are not cattle that should be herded from one area of the country to the next in search of greener pastures. [...] As a Parliamentary Secretary, who speaks for the government, Mr. Jean should know better. [...] This is appalling. Forced relocation is a violation of freedom of choice. Instead of unrealistic and undemocratic solutions like forced relocation of Canadians, the Conservatives should further the actions taken by the former Liberal government to support regional development where the population currently exists.

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In this case, I would suggest the not-so honourable Member Kiss My Hairy Ass.

The Liberal was completely correct. (not something I say often)

Now, that said, there, in my job we can't find people to work, we are seriously understaffed, and it is getting worse. Mind you, the pay is terrible, the hours irregular, it is dangerous, and you have to have a restricted weapons acquisition certificate, but still.......

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Forced Relocation of Atlantic Unemployed?

Where does it say forced relocation? Do people want to work or not? Why people want to to rot in unemployment, just because it's close to mom, is beyond me.

Funny you should say that...........

My Mom is 86, lives in a house she has lived in for over 50 years, has very few mobile friends, and I am the only living relative in the province......

that should count for something.

 

[Kreskin]

Re: RE: Forced Relocation of Atlantic Unemployed?

Where does it say forced relocation? Do people want to work or not? Why people want to to rot in unemployment, just because it's close to mom, is beyond me.

Funny you should say that...........

My Mom is 86, lives in a house she has lived in for over 50 years, has very few mobile friends, and I am the only living relative in the province......

that should count for something.

Then don't leave. Who's forcing you to?

 

[Colpy]

Re: RE: Forced Relocation of Atlantic Unemployed?

Where does it say forced relocation? Do people want to work or not? Why people want to to rot in unemployment, just because it's close to mom, is beyond me.

Funny you should say that...........

My Mom is 86, lives in a house she has lived in for over 50 years, has very few mobile friends, and I am the only living relative in the province......

that should count for something.

Then don't leave. Who's forcing you to?

Nobody.....

But what if I was unemployed? Which is the point of the current debate, or so I thought......should I be forced to relocate by the economic pressure of not being able to collect pokey here in NB?

 

[missile]

The way I heard this was we should be forced to work in Northern Alberta. Northern: as in desolate, cold as hell, and service lacking! I had thought Mr. Harper had told his MPs to keep their fat mouths shut unless he wanted them to talk.

 

[BitWhys]

Re: RE: Forced Relocation of

no shit sherlock

If you have a point, make one.

When you create false economies they eventually implode. The BC Skeena Mill an example of an NDP make work project.

You pass comment on the efforts on the coast as if its some sort of doomed socialist agenda that somehow goes against the laws of nature. I'm reminding you that a large part of what makes this country even possible is the result of government intervention, usually implemented not without some degree of negative impact on the political careers of those who initiated them.


If you think there's an aspect of the program that is errant point it out. Conversly don't say another word about it so I can be left to assume you have no clue what you're really talking about and just wanted to sound proud of your Economic Darwinistic tendencies as if you wouldn't look for a boost if you needed it.

Our government stood by and watched trawlers catch tiny fish for Japan until it was too late. If you think we should add injury to insult and leave the good people of the coast to either starve or migrate in the grand tradition of the Highland Clearances so be it. I, for one, am not of that persuasion.