RE: You must help.

Colpy

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RE: You must help.

Garbage.

First of all, despite what the con artists of the Animal Rights movement tell you, we don't kill baby seals. It is illegal to kill whitecoats. The folks you see on there cuddling little white seals with big brown eyes do so only because it inspires you to send them more money.

The seals are young when they are killed, but they are definitely NOT baby seals.

There are MILLIONS of seals. They are helping deplete the fish stocks, and killing them is no more cruel than the slaughter in any slaughter house that provides you your Big Mac.

90% of the seals killed are shot.

Natives do a lot of seal hunting, a ban would be extremely damaging to them

Mind your own damn business.

Edited to say:

I read some of the comments on the petition.

My God, does anyone out there have an IQ bigger than their shoe size?

Harper, BTW, is a CONSERVATIVE! Good luck, you'll need it.
 

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Re: You must help.

Colpy

you are absolutely right. I just deleted that spam.
 

TenPenny

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I remember reading that the anti-seal hunt is the single biggest source of donations for the IFAW...so the whole exercise isn't about the seals, it's about keeping the IFAW alive.
 

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whatcha talkiing 'bout colps?

just to play with you, i have had my way with your comment tee hee

Colpy said:
Garbage.


First of all, despite what the con artists of the Human Rights movement tell you, we don't kill baby humans. It is illegal to kill baby humans. The folks you see on there cuddling little baby humans with big brown eyes do so only because it inspires you to send them more money.

The humans are young when they are killed, but they are definitely NOT babies.

There are BILLIONS of humans. They are helping deplete the fish stocks, and killing them is no more cruel than the slaughter in any slaughter house that provides you your Big Mac.

90% of the humans killed are shot.

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So is killing cattle, or pigs, or fish, or snakes, or carrots, for that matter. Chicken is probably the least humane, and egg production is absolutely horrendous on the birds. And, in case you're stuck on this "humane" thing, killing human beings ranks right up there on the inhumane scale.

The day after the executive of the IFAW pledges to only eat roadkill, that's the day I listen to them.
 

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the caracal kid

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depends ten,

if we determine what is humane based on what the masses of humans do and have done over the centuries, than brutally killing, maiming, and torturing IS HUMANE. to be inhumane is to refuse to act in such a human manner.

I was only playing with colps, by the way. I didn't see what he was commenting on.

(and yes, the activist groups that claim to act on behalf of the animals have also shown an ability to be very humane, as i have redefined above)
 

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the caracal kid said:
whatcha talkiing 'bout colps?

just to play with you, i have had my way with your comment tee hee

Colpy said:
Garbage.


First of all, despite what the con artists of the Human Rights movement tell you, we don't kill baby humans. It is illegal to kill baby humans. The folks you see on there cuddling little baby humans with big brown eyes do so only because it inspires you to send them more money.

The humans are young when they are killed, but they are definitely NOT babies.

There are BILLIONS of humans. They are helping deplete the fish stocks, and killing them is no more cruel than the slaughter in any slaughter house that provides you your Big Mac.

90% of the humans killed are shot.

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Now that's just weird.

What's your point? As if you hadn't delivered it with a sledgehammer.

Are you equating human children and seals? If so, you need psychiatric treatment, as you are dangerous.

Please have yourself committed.
 

I think not

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I personally think there are more important issues in the world than how a group of people earn their living, whether it's clubbing seals, cutting fins off sharks or killing elephants for their tusks in Africa.

However, an organization that protects animals from unnecessary pain and suffering shouldn't be looked down upon. Yes we all eat meat and we know how they are killed, but they are killed with alot more compassion because of these organizations.
 

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You know when I wrote that, for a moment I had the thought to write most of us eat meat, but I decided to stick with all hoping that someone will pick up the insignificant detail as opposed to the essence. Congrats.
 

the caracal kid

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thank you!

it is a rather significant issue to me. more significant than you would guess. While it encompases ethical treatment of animals, it is centred around maintaining an optimal diet. That is a plant based, alkilyne maintaining, whole foods, organic, "eat for need"(which compared to the western world of gluttony is also called "restricted caloric"). I care about myself and "the animals", that is why i don't eat them or any byproducts of them (yes, ITN, dairy is a poison, and if you eat meat from the conventional western meat production system you are dining on herbicides, pesticides, antibiotics, and steriods. ) don't get me started...... :lol:
 

the caracal kid

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your made out of meat, so why don't you dine on your foot?

seriously, the evolution of the modern human as a generalist animal allows him to thrive on just about anything. The question is not whether man can eat meat, but what is the best foods for man. The answer is a plant based diet.
 

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Re: RE: RE: You must help.

the caracal kid said:
(yes, ITN, dairy is a poison, and if you eat meat from the conventional western meat production system you are dining on herbicides, pesticides, antibiotics, and steriods. )

Mmmmm....finger lickin good!
 

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All this talk made me go dig up an old favourite story/joke. I have no idea who wrote it:

MEAT

"They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"Meat. They're made out of meat."

"Meat?"

"There's no doubt about it. We picked several from different parts of the planet, took them aboard our recon vessels, probed them all the way through.

They're completely meat."

"That's impossible. What about the radio signals? The messages to the stars."

"They use the radio waves to talk, but the signals don't come from them. The signals come from machines."

"So who made the machines? That's who we want to contact."

"They made the machines. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Meat made the machines."

"That's ridiculous. How can meat make a machine? You're asking me to believe in sentient meat."

"I'm not asking you, I'm telling you. These creatures are the only sentient race in the sector and they're made out of meat."

"Maybe they're like the Orfolei. You know, a carbon-based intelligence that goes through a meat stage."

"Nope. They're born meat and they die meat. We studied them for several of their life spans, which didn't take too long. Do you have any idea of the life span of meat?"

"Spare me. Okay, maybe they're only part meat. You know, like the
Weddilei. A meat head with an electron plasma brain inside."

"Nope. We thought of that, since they do have meat heads like the Weddilei. But I told you, we probed them. They're meat all the way through."

"No brain?"

"Oh, there is a brain all right. It's just that the brain is made out of meat!"

"So . . . what does the thinking?"

"You're not understanding, are you? The brain does the thinking. The meat."

"Thinking meat! You're asking me to believe in thinking meat!"

"Yes, thinking meat! Conscious meat! Loving meat. Dreaming meat. The meat is the whole deal! Are you getting the picture?"

"Omigod. You're serious then. They're made out of meat."

"Finally! Yes. They are indeed made out meat. And they've been trying to get in touch with us for almost a hundred of their years."

"So what does the meat have in mind?"

"First it wants to talk to us. Then I imagine it wants to explore the universe, contact other sentients, swap ideas and information. The usual."

"We're supposed to talk to meat?"

"That's the idea. That's the message they're sending out by radio. 'Hello. Anyone out there? Anyone home?' That sort of thing."

"They actually do talk, then. They use words, ideas, concepts?"

"Oh, yes. Except they do it with meat."

"I thought you just told me they used radio."

"They do, but what do you think is on the radio? Meat sounds. You know how when you slap or flap meat it makes a noise? They talk by flapping their meat at each other. They can even sing by squirting air through their meat."

"Omigod. Singing meat. This is altogether too much. So what do you advise?"

"Officially or unofficially?"

"Both."

"Officially, we are required to contact, welcome, and log in any and all sentient races or multibeings in the quadrant, without prejudice, fear, or favor. Unofficially, I advise that we erase the records and forget the whole thing."

"I was hoping you would say that."

"It seems harsh, but there is a limit. Do we really want to make contact with meat?"

"I agree one hundred percent. What's there to say?" `Hello, meat. How's it going?'

But will this work? How many planets are we dealing with here?"

"Just one. They can travel to other planets in special meat containers, but they can't live on them. And being meat, they only travel through C space. Which limits them to the speed of light and makes the possibility of their ever making contact pretty slim. Infinitesimal, in fact."

"So we just pretend there's no one home in the universe."

"That's it."

"Cruel. But you said it yourself, who wants to meet meat? And the ones who have been aboard our vessels, the ones you have probed? You're sure they won't remember?"

"They'll be considered crackpots if they do. We went into their heads and smoothed out their meat so that we're just a dream to them."

"A dream to meat! How strangely appropriate, that we should be meat's dream."

"And we can mark this sector unoccupied."

"Good. Agreed, officially and unofficially. Case closed. Any others?
Anyone interesting on that side of the galaxy?"

"Yes, a rather shy but sweet hydrogen core cluster intelligence in a class nine star in G445 zone. Was in contact two galactic rotation ago, wants to be friendly again."

"They always come around."

"And why not? Imagine how unbearably, how utterly, cold this galaxy would be if one were all alone with no one to talk to."