Beware Harper

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Whether your Liberal, Conservative, Social Democrat, Separatist or undecided, this is very important to know.

As many Canadians may know the federal elections are going to be held on the 23rd of January, 2006.

It is essential to warn others about the man who is responsible for toppling the Canadian Government so he can become the new Prime Minister of Canada and carry out his hidden agenda across Canada.

His name is Stephen Harper.

The many few reasons why Stephen Harper becoming Prime Minister is dangerous to Canada:

- Harper attended a BILDERBURG MEETING in 2003 whereby global policy is usually discussed secretly.

The meetings are held with over a hundred invitees from around the world which include

active members such as Donald Rumsfeld and World Bank member Paul Wilfowitz.

- Many Progressive Conservatives OPPOSE Harper.

- He has called Canada a "SECOND-RATE" country

(Source, National Post, Dec. 8 2000 p. A18)

- He has the motive to make Canada much more like the

United States (Canadian Alliance Defense Policy Paper:

The New North Strong and Free, May 5, 2003)

- When US President Bush visited Canada for the first

time, he had made an arrangement to have dialog with

Stephen Harper in which the dialog itself was kept

SECRET.

- Harper has already accused the Liberal Government

for running organized crime and child pornography, his accusation

has already led to a lawsuit filed against him.

- He has intentions to PRIVATIZE Health Care (Source,

1997 CBC TV Interview)

- He supports to take action in Iraq and Missile

Defense. (Source for supporting Iraq invasion,

Maclean’s, August, 25, 2003)

- He was the former PRESIDENT of the National Citizens

Coalition (NCC). (Source, Wikipedia.org)

- He is AGAINST Human Rights Commissions (Source, BC

Report Newsmagazine, January 11, 1999)

- He is AGAINST preventing Child Poverty (Source, The

Bulldog, National Citizens Coalition, February 1999)

- He is a FLIP-FLOPPER (opposed and now approves of

former PM Brian Mulroney / was against and now

supports being a Libertarian / supported and now

opposes gun control)

- He has called Atlantic Canadians "DEFEATISTS" - a

mental deficiency.

- A Harper government would most likely set the US Northcom initiative

into motion which would combine the American and Canadian armed forces.

- He is AGAINST limiting or banning financial

donations for electoral campaigns from big businesses

and unions. Note: NOW HE IS FOR IT!

- He wants to EXPERIMENT with Market Reforms and

Private delivery options (Source, NCC presidential

statement 2001)

- He will FINANCIALLY DESTROY Canada by lowering the

tax rate below the US rates (Source, Vancouver

Province, April 6, 2004)

- He is a WESTERN SEPARATIST (Source, Open letter to

Ralph Klein January 24, 2001)

- He has called IMMIGRANTS "people who live in

ghettoes and who are not integrated to western

Canadian society" (Source, The Report newsmagazine,

January 22, 2001)

- He has a false relationship with Aboriginal

Canadians in which his "central document" regards the

First Nations as "SAVAGES" and that Canadians should

ignore them and there shameful conditions.

- He made a STUPID ERROR and did not apologize for

sending a letter to a First Nations group in which he

had congratulated them on India's Independence.

- He is ANTI-ENVIRONMENT as he has opposed and called

the Kyoto Protocol a "boondoggle" and refutes the

science behind it.

- He has had motives to ELIMINATE Employment

Insurance.

- He SUPPORTS PREJUDICE individuals and is a MAGNET

FOR RACISTS (endorsed Rob Anders who called Nelson

Mandela a "communist and a terrorist" / hired a

spokesperson in 2002 who had once made a prejudice

statement stating that school boards are being run by

"diesel dykes" / neo-Nazi's and the White Heritage

Front have been attracted to the leadership of Harper)






Who is Stephen Harper?



- Current Leader of the Conservative Party of Canada.

The party was a merger of the Canadian Alliance and

the PC Party and currently holds 98 Seats in the House. He

had defeated popular (now-Liberal) candidate

Belinda Stronach.

- Former Leader of the Canadian Alliance and successor

to unpopular leader Stockwell Day.

- Former President and Vice President of the National

Citizens Coalition (NCC)

- Former Reform Party MP.





Who are the National Citizens Coalition (NCC)?



A Right-Wing lobby group that supports privatization,

tax cuts and government spending cuts. The

organization actively fights to keep information about

itself secret. For the last four decades, they have

been funding many campaigns AGAINST certain areas such

as:

- The Canadian Health Act

- The Canadian Wheat Board

- Vietnamese refugees coming into Canada in 1979-80



They also fund important organizations and

politicians. For example they founded and funded the

Ontarians for Responsible Government organization

which helped Former Ontario Premier Mike Harris come

to power.


Don't let Harper win the upcoming elections to become

Prime Minister of Canada, which is the highest office

in Government and is third in state status after the

Queen and the Governor General.



KEEP IN MIND THE PRIME MINISTER OF CANADA

HAS THE MOST PERSONAL AND ABSOLUTE POWER

OF ANY ELECTED LEADER OF

ANY FULL DEMOCRACY IN THE WORLD!



THIS COMING ELECTIONS

VOTE NO FOR HARPER, PERIOD
 

justfred

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I guess that each person in Canada has an opinion. Mine is that everyone should vote for Steven Harper. Why, because he has better ideas that the Lying Liberals who have been running this country into ruin for the last 12 years. Because the Lying Liberals are saying that if you do not vote Liberal, the whole of Canada will collapse and with it will go everything.
If you are an easterner, we Albertans can see why you are so stuck on voting for the Lying Liberals. The way they do business is to lie their way into power, and are they good at it.
 

Jersay

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I don't like the Liberals and I don't like the Conservatives. Because they are both crap, especially the Conservatives, who will try to change Canada into a regressive country.

So that is why I vote NDP.
 

the caracal kid

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here is some more form the toronto star article titled "Tories stall in polls as critics hammer Harper":

— The Canadian Climate Coalition complained that the Tories were the only party that refused to respond to a questionnaire on the Kyoto Protocol, and accused Harper of moving Canada "into the same camp as U.S. President George W. Bush."

— The Council of Canadians expressed concern about recent comments by Conservative MP James Lunney favouring bulk exports of Canadian water, and called on Harper to clarify his position on the issue.

— Sixty-six economists signed a joint statement warning that the tax breaks being offered by the major parties would leave a huge deficit in social services and hurt the poor. They took special aim at the Conservative proposal to eliminate taxes on reinvested capital gains, saying it would "deliver very large tax savings to a tiny group of high-income Canadians."

— Phil Fontaine, national chief of the Assembly of First Nations, said he's not satisfied by recent comments by Harper that the party supports the principles of the Kelowna native deal, but not the final agreement and dollar amount. "Any suggestion that one supports the objectives and the targets but not the approximately $5 billion allocated to these targets is of great concern to us because we won't be able to meet the targets without money," he said.

— The gay-rights group Egale warned: "Stephen Harper goes ahead with his plan to reopen the divisive equal marriage debate, it will lead Canada into a legal swamp." On Monday, 104 law professors wrote an open letter to Harper saying that his plan to reopen the equal marriage debate would lead to "legal confusion, a lack of uniformity, and unnecessary, protracted and costly litigation."

Harper also faced questions from reporters Tuesday on claims that the Tories harbour a secret agenda to reopen the abortion debate.

On Monday, Dr. Henry Morgentaler, the father of the pro-choice movement in Canada, had said Conservatives can't be trusted on the abortion issue.

linky (splice lines together for article):
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call_pageid=968332188774&call_pagepath=News/Canada
 

KanBob

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Re: RE: Beware Harper

the caracal kid said:
On Monday, Dr. Henry Morgentaler, the father of the pro-choice movement in Canada, had said Conservatives can't be trusted on the abortion issue.

All those reasons seemed like just so much Puff, but then I see where Dr. Henry Morgentaler is concerned. Now that is important.

God forbid that we stop, or reduce, or even question the killing of potential Canadians in any way. Dr. Morgentaler's profits are at stake!

I wonder though, why Jack Layton doesn't condemn Dr. Morgentaler and his private clinics? They are obviously a second tier operating for profit outside the public health care system.

Is that the smell of hypocrisy?
 

nomore

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Jan 5, 2006
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Seriously, we don't make this up. :roll:

seriously geopolitics, get with reality. The world will not colapse if Harper gets elected. Not to mention, many of the points you put in your original post are highly edited, and abreviated.

edit: actually some are pretty close to flat out lies.
 

FiveParadox

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justfred said:
I guess that each person in Canada has an opinion. Mine is that everyone should vote for Steven Harper. Why, because he has better ideas that the Lying Liberals who have been running this country into ruin for the last 12 years. Because the Lying Liberals are saying that if you do not vote Liberal, the whole of Canada will collapse and with it will go everything.
With all due respect, perhaps it would be wise to vote for a candidate whose name you can spell? Personally, I will not be voting for the Honourable Stephen Harper; I find his priorities are misaligned in relation to my own.
 

JomZ

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Reentering the Fray at CC.net
It seems to be a serious issue with Harper himself. His image with Canadians is at best a guarded optimism.

Conservative Leader Stephen Harper took efforts on Tuesday to play down fears about absolute Tory power in Ottawa.
Speaking to reporters in Quebec, Harper said a Tory majority would only be able to exercise limited power in Ottawa because of a Liberal-dominated Senate and bureaucracy appointed by Liberal governments.
"The reality is we will have for some time to come a Liberal senate, Liberal civil service. At least senior levels have been appointed by the Liberals, and courts that have been appointed by the Liberals."
Harper didn't directly question the independence of the courts and the civil service but suggested years of Liberal appointments would prevent a real Conservative majority.
"There's certainly no absolute power for a Conservative government and no real true majority. We will have checks on us and limits on our ability to operate that a Liberal government would not face."
Harper also stressed that he would fight against any attempt to introduce legislation regarding abortions.
"The Conservative government won't be initiating or supporting abortion legislation, and I'll use whatever influence I have in Parliament to be sure that such a matter doesn't come to a vote," Harper said.
"I will use whatever influence I have to keep that off of the agenda, and I don't see any likelihood of that in the next Parliament," he said.
He also said a Conservative government would start negotiations with the provinces over the "fiscal imbalance," but a resolution would not be quick and setting deadlines would not be helpful.
The imbalance is the financial gap between the federal government, which is running a surplus, and the provinces, which are struggling to cover the increasing costs of social programs, especially health care.
"If we win, then as soon as we are elected, we will start negotiations. It won't be easy," Harper said, but "I intend to resolve this problem within our mandate."
Harper made the comments as polls suggest the Tories are heading for a plurality of the seats in Parliament.
www.cbc.ca
Like many I will give Harper the benefit of the doubt, because there is a big difference from being the opposition leader and being the prime minister. I know the media will be hard-pressed to maintain a scrupulous watch on Harper’s affairs should he win a strong minority or a majority.
 

MMMike

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Ok... Harper scarey. He eats babies, and hate puppies. He is the antiChrist and will end this country as we know it. :roll:

Sorry guys, the whole "hidden agenda" thing is getting tired. The people of Canada won't get fooled again.
 

FiveParadox

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Simply because I do not agree with the policies of the Honourable Leader of the Opposition would hardly imply an assertion that he is some kind of "Anti-Christ." Take care not to mistake respectful disagreement for fearmongering.
 

Citizen

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Jan 6, 2006
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Re: RE: Beware Harper

KanBob said:
the caracal kid said:
On Monday, Dr. Henry Morgentaler, the father of the pro-choice movement in Canada, had said Conservatives can't be trusted on the abortion issue.

All those reasons seemed like just so much Puff, but then I see where Dr. Henry Morgentaler is concerned. Now that is important.

God forbid that we stop, or reduce, or even question the killing of potential Canadians in any way. Dr. Morgentaler's profits are at stake!

I wonder though, why Jack Layton doesn't condemn Dr. Morgentaler and his private clinics? They are obviously a second tier operating for profit outside the public health care system.

Is that the smell of hypocrisy?

More extremism. As if Morgentaler cares what a Harper government could do to his personal finances. :roll:
 

Lost2

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Jersay said:
I don't like the Liberals and I don't like the Conservatives. Because they are both crap, especially the Conservatives, who will try to change Canada into a regressive country.

So that is why I vote NDP.

To me the "Conservatives" are not the real conservatives but the "Reform" undercover. The liberals screwed up big time with their scandals. So that just leaves the NDP.
 

bluealberta

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MMMike said:
Ok... Harper scarey. He eats babies, and hate puppies. He is the antiChrist and will end this country as we know it. :roll:

Sorry guys, the whole "hidden agenda" thing is getting tired. The people of Canada won't get fooled again.

Hey, MMMike, how ya doing?

You are absolutely correct, the hidden agenda crap is getting way too old, as is Martin. :roll:

Looking at Martin this week and listening to his crap, it amazes me that he has nothing to put forth about why people should vote Liberal, and instead, concentrates everything on attacking Harper. There is NO WAY that Harper is scarey, has a hidden agenda, or any of the other lies out there about him from the looney left, yes you, Paradox. Tell me how cutting taxes, improving military, allowing free votes (what a concept, freedom to vote what your constituents want) etc. is a bad thing
But then, Paradox, it appears you are willing to go along with Martin and basically marginalize the Parliament in favor of five of nine appointed judges. Riddle me this: Why do we need Parliament and MPS if EVERYTHING will be decided by the Supremes? If yo honestly believe this, then your views belong more in a soviet style of government than in a supposed democracy.
 

FiveParadox

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I don't know why I bother being respectful on these forums. The favour never seems to be returned.

I didn't even address the issue of the Supreme Court of Canada in this thread, so what in the Hell are you talking about? I don't see why I should be obligated to respect your opinion, bluealberta, when you are so intent on margininalizing my own.

"Loony left?" Grow up.

Refuting one's points is one thing — but questioning and going further to insult the integrity of other members of this forum is quite simply an unacceptable practice. Let's try debating like adults, shall we?

Your assertion that I somehow oppose the principles of democracy is insulting. I made no comment in relation to free votes in the House of Commons, and in fact support the premise that Members of Parliament should support their constituents wherever possible.
 

Cosmo

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bluealberta ... back off. FiveParadox has every right to his opinion. You don't need to be an ass about expressing your disagreement. Five said it better than I ... "grow up".
Cosmo
 

Colpy

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Jersay said:
That is why the Conservatives are going down in the polls, and they will only have to blame themselves again.

True democracy at work. :D

Down?

A CTV poll tonight put them at 42%.
 

Colpy

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Paul Martin and a CSIS agent are taking a stroll when they come upon a little girl carrying a basket with a blanket over it. Curious, Martin asks the girl,

"What's in the basket?" She replies, "New baby kittens," and she opens the basket to show him.

"How nice," says Martin. "What kind are they?" The little girl says,
"Liberals."

Martin smiles, pats the little girl on the head and continues on.

Three weeks later, Martin is taking another stroll, this time with Jack Layton. They see the little girl again with the same basket. Martin says, "Watch this, Jack; it's really cute." They approach the little girl. He greets the little girl and says

"How are the kittens doing? She says, "Fine." Then, smirking, he nudges Layton with his elbow and asks the little girl, "And can you tell us what kind of kittens they are?" She replies, "Conservatives." Abashed, Martin says, "But three weeks ago you said they were Liberals!"

"I know," she says. "But now their little eyes are open."
 

annabattler

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There'll be no Harper vote from me. I can just imagine Stockwell Day being given the External Affairs portfolio.
Too bad Deb Grey left the party...she brought legitimacy to the newly minted Conservatives.