Member
Posts: 234 
Location: BC
Location: BC
May 2nd, 2004, 11:03 AM
Monday will see the province of BC shut down. Unions from all corners are going to walk in a show of support of the HEU.
This is democracy in action.
This is people power and the government should beware. In fact all right leaning governments in Canada had better tread lightly. Once people start to catch on that in fact they do hold all the cards, all the flimsy houses built by the cheap labour conservatives will crumble before them.
There are those like myself - those that don't even belong to a union - but will still be organizing non-union workers to walk and march as well.
The right wing CanWest monopoly papers are filled with anti-union garbage. The right wingers are crying away and want to see workers legislated back to work. We know the right hates their fellow man, and despises democracy, but they are going to fail.
Vive le Canada and screw the cheap labour conservatives!
Monday will see the province of BC shut down. Unions from all corners are going to walk in a show of support of the HEU.
This is democracy in action.
This is people power and the government should beware. In fact all right leaning governments in Canada had better tread lightly. Once people start to catch on that in fact they do hold all the cards, all the flimsy houses built by the cheap labour conservatives will crumble before them.
There are those like myself - those that don't even belong to a union - but will still be organizing non-union workers to walk and march as well.
The right wing CanWest monopoly papers are filled with anti-union garbage. The right wingers are crying away and want to see workers legislated back to work. We know the right hates their fellow man, and despises democracy, but they are going to fail.
Vive le Canada and screw the cheap labour conservatives!
Super Genius
Posts: 1,320
Location: Winnipeg
Location: Winnipeg
May 2nd, 2004, 11:32 AM
I've heard some rumblings that a general strike could spread beyond BC if things get ugly....That the whole country could be shut down.
If it does I will certainly take part. I'm not in a union, but I've had about enough of being pushed by the economic terrorism being pushed on us by pro-business governments.
I've heard some rumblings that a general strike could spread beyond BC if things get ugly....That the whole country could be shut down.
If it does I will certainly take part. I'm not in a union, but I've had about enough of being pushed by the economic terrorism being pushed on us by pro-business governments.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,065
Location: Montréal, Québec
Location: Montréal, Québec
May 2nd, 2004, 03:20 PM
I myself am Unionised. I'm a lawyer for the provincial goverment. My Union, is going to join a strike here soon. Its a general strike for one day
. And will continue for as long as needed. Jean Charest, has played around in the wrong bushs, and has maneged to piss of almost every social group in Québec. Just look at the great demonstrations we organised yesterday. 100k people in the streets of Montreal, protesting against Jean Charest - Anti-Social - policies, and celebrating internationnal workers day.
Now, I hope you continue with your fight in BC. Our Union has brought this up, and we support you and your fellow workers.
I myself am Unionised. I'm a lawyer for the provincial goverment. My Union, is going to join a strike here soon. Its a general strike for one day
. And will continue for as long as needed. Jean Charest, has played around in the wrong bushs, and has maneged to piss of almost every social group in Québec. Just look at the great demonstrations we organised yesterday. 100k people in the streets of Montreal, protesting against Jean Charest - Anti-Social - policies, and celebrating internationnal workers day.Now, I hope you continue with your fight in BC. Our Union has brought this up, and we support you and your fellow workers.
Newbie
Posts: 6
May 11th, 2004, 07:05 PM
You think the unions care more about your welfare than the gov't does...
think again..
the unions aren't pro-worker.. their just anti-gov't.. doesn't matter which gov't there is unions are always lobbying, threatening to strike, etc etc
the pendulum has swung too far. Unions are much too powerful and corrupt (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
although for the record I support what is going on in BC. But it could've happened without a union
Unions are no longer required in todays society; Professional organizations should take charge of employee welfare
You think the unions care more about your welfare than the gov't does...
think again..
the unions aren't pro-worker.. their just anti-gov't.. doesn't matter which gov't there is unions are always lobbying, threatening to strike, etc etc
the pendulum has swung too far. Unions are much too powerful and corrupt (Absolute power corrupts absolutely)
although for the record I support what is going on in BC. But it could've happened without a union
Unions are no longer required in todays society; Professional organizations should take charge of employee welfare
Super Genius
Posts: 1,065
Location: Montréal, Québec
Location: Montréal, Québec
May 11th, 2004, 09:17 PM
Unions are still needed, and forever will be. It forbids compagnies from owning everything. They arnt corrupt, they do what the members ask. We vote, as in a democracy to go on strike or not. Its not Union representatives that make arguments for or against a strike, its the workers. And when leaders (as in BC), betray their members, they a) loose their job. b) Get sued. c) will never get a job anywhere else in the province or area where Unions or Collective agreements exist.
They arnt anti-goverment, they are pro workers. But they support the workers in anything, let it be stoping to goverment from going against the will of the workers they represent. Stop believing all the right wing media you listen, and attend Union meetups.
Unions are still needed, and forever will be. It forbids compagnies from owning everything. They arnt corrupt, they do what the members ask. We vote, as in a democracy to go on strike or not. Its not Union representatives that make arguments for or against a strike, its the workers. And when leaders (as in BC), betray their members, they a) loose their job. b) Get sued. c) will never get a job anywhere else in the province or area where Unions or Collective agreements exist.
They arnt anti-goverment, they are pro workers. But they support the workers in anything, let it be stoping to goverment from going against the will of the workers they represent. Stop believing all the right wing media you listen, and attend Union meetups.
Newbie
Posts: 6
May 12th, 2004, 05:42 PM
I don't think I ever want to be part of a union.. I can negotiate my own salary, benefits etc.. Canada and its provincial labour laws give me enough protection thank you..
I don't need organized crime (read: Unions) stealing my money.. the gov't already takes enough
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most media in Canada is Left-wing (CBC, Global etc).
Unions are still needed, and forever will be. It forbids compagnies from owning everything. They arnt corrupt, they do what the members ask. We vote, as in a democracy to go on strike or not. Its not Union representatives that make arguments for or against a strike, its the workers. And when leaders (as in BC), betray their members, they a) loose their job. b) Get sued. c) will never get a job anywhere else in the province or area where Unions or Collective agreements exist.
They arnt anti-goverment, they are pro workers. But they support the workers in anything, let it be stoping to goverment from going against the will of the workers they represent. Stop believing all the right wing media you listen, and attend Union meetups.
They arnt anti-goverment, they are pro workers. But they support the workers in anything, let it be stoping to goverment from going against the will of the workers they represent. Stop believing all the right wing media you listen, and attend Union meetups.
I don't think I ever want to be part of a union.. I can negotiate my own salary, benefits etc.. Canada and its provincial labour laws give me enough protection thank you..
I don't need organized crime (read: Unions) stealing my money.. the gov't already takes enough
Super Genius
Posts: 1,065
Location: Montréal, Québec
Location: Montréal, Québec
May 12th, 2004, 09:59 PM
They give it back to you in other means... Take the FTQ (In Quebec). They reinveste all the money in different compagnies when they are in difficulty, saving thousands of jobs.
What on earth made you think Global is left wing? You should learn what the left and right is before you make such a statement.
They give it back to you in other means... Take the FTQ (In Quebec). They reinveste all the money in different compagnies when they are in difficulty, saving thousands of jobs.
What on earth made you think Global is left wing? You should learn what the left and right is before you make such a statement.
Newbie
Posts: 6
May 13th, 2004, 07:28 AM
Global is well-known for being Liberal supporters. I suppose you could argue that the Liberal party of Canada is not left-wing. The Liberals are definately left of centre.
Socially I would say I'm left of centre; however fiscally I'm definately a conservative.
I'm not anti-union; but I definately think that Canada has way too many unions that are too powerful, too greedy and do not have their members interest at heart.
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Thank god.. I was beginning to think this site was all brain-washed lefties...
tekaos, I'm with you.
Global is well-known for being Liberal supporters. I suppose you could argue that the Liberal party of Canada is not left-wing. The Liberals are definately left of centre.
Socially I would say I'm left of centre; however fiscally I'm definately a conservative.
I'm not anti-union; but I definately think that Canada has way too many unions that are too powerful, too greedy and do not have their members interest at heart.
May 13th, 2004, 02:27 PM
I agree with some of the leftist articles though, mainly because they make sense. For the record, I can't stand the CBC or Global, I watch CTV with Report on Business every night!
I agree that the unions have too much power, and some of them are definately anti-government. Most must realise that we are not living in a socialist or "democratic" republic, therefore corporations have to be profitable to survive. It's not fair if unions are able to severly hurt the profit of a corporation that they have to eventually get up and move to Mexico because of it.
I don't follow the NDP, although they have some reasonable ideas sometimes... they are just too socialist for my liking.
But I'm with tekaos on what he said, I'm probably centre in social issues but further to the right fiscally... but I strongly oppose corporate takeover of our country.
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Not everyone here is lefties. I'm definately not.
Socially I would say I'm left of centre; however fiscally I'm definately a conservative.
I'm not anti-union; but I definately think that Canada has way too many unions that are too powerful, too greedy and do not have their members interest at heart.
I'm not anti-union; but I definately think that Canada has way too many unions that are too powerful, too greedy and do not have their members interest at heart.
I agree with some of the leftist articles though, mainly because they make sense. For the record, I can't stand the CBC or Global, I watch CTV with Report on Business every night!
I agree that the unions have too much power, and some of them are definately anti-government. Most must realise that we are not living in a socialist or "democratic" republic, therefore corporations have to be profitable to survive. It's not fair if unions are able to severly hurt the profit of a corporation that they have to eventually get up and move to Mexico because of it.
I don't follow the NDP, although they have some reasonable ideas sometimes... they are just too socialist for my liking.
But I'm with tekaos on what he said, I'm probably centre in social issues but further to the right fiscally... but I strongly oppose corporate takeover of our country.
Newbie
Posts: 6
May 13th, 2004, 02:39 PM
do hockey players really need a union?
do gov't employees? I live in Ottawa, I see how sweet the average civil servant has it. Yes some work very hard. Probably even the majority but there are a lot of sponges here sucking everybody dry. If they actually have a manager who gives a $hit the employee screams "Union".
Just like that woman who worked for Heritage Canada. She was a member of a seperatist group. Not just a member she was the bloody president. When the gov't asked her to choose between her seperatist organization or her job her union came to her aid.
Imagine?!
Quoting
I agree with some of the leftist articles though, mainly because they make sense. For the record, I can't stand the CBC or Global, I watch CTV with Report on Business every night!
I agree that the unions have too much power, and some of them are definately anti-government. Most must realise that we are not living in a socialist or "democratic" republic, therefore corporations have to be profitable to survive. It's not fair if unions are able to severly hurt the profit of a corporation that they have to eventually get up and move to Mexico because of it.
I don't follow the NDP, although they have some reasonable ideas sometimes... they are just too socialist for my liking.
But I'm with tekaos on what he said, I'm probably centre in social issues but further to the right fiscally... but I strongly oppose corporate takeover of our country.
and I mean there are just way too many unions.. Quoting
Not everyone here is lefties. I'm definately not.
Socially I would say I'm left of centre; however fiscally I'm definately a conservative.
I'm not anti-union; but I definately think that Canada has way too many unions that are too powerful, too greedy and do not have their members interest at heart.
I'm not anti-union; but I definately think that Canada has way too many unions that are too powerful, too greedy and do not have their members interest at heart.
I agree with some of the leftist articles though, mainly because they make sense. For the record, I can't stand the CBC or Global, I watch CTV with Report on Business every night!
I agree that the unions have too much power, and some of them are definately anti-government. Most must realise that we are not living in a socialist or "democratic" republic, therefore corporations have to be profitable to survive. It's not fair if unions are able to severly hurt the profit of a corporation that they have to eventually get up and move to Mexico because of it.
I don't follow the NDP, although they have some reasonable ideas sometimes... they are just too socialist for my liking.
But I'm with tekaos on what he said, I'm probably centre in social issues but further to the right fiscally... but I strongly oppose corporate takeover of our country.
do hockey players really need a union?
do gov't employees? I live in Ottawa, I see how sweet the average civil servant has it. Yes some work very hard. Probably even the majority but there are a lot of sponges here sucking everybody dry. If they actually have a manager who gives a $hit the employee screams "Union".
Just like that woman who worked for Heritage Canada. She was a member of a seperatist group. Not just a member she was the bloody president. When the gov't asked her to choose between her seperatist organization or her job her union came to her aid.
Imagine?!
Super Genius
Posts: 1,065
Location: Montréal, Québec
Location: Montréal, Québec
May 13th, 2004, 04:57 PM
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Global is well-known for being Liberal supporters. I suppose you could argue that the Liberal party of Canada is not left-wing. The Liberals are definately left of centre.
Socially I would say I'm left of centre; however fiscally I'm definately a conservative.
I'm not anti-union; but I definately think that Canada has way too many unions that are too powerful, too greedy and do not have their members interest at heart.
Global is Canwest... All right wing, no matter what party they support.
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Thank god.. I was beginning to think this site was all brain-washed lefties...
tekaos, I'm with you.
Global is well-known for being Liberal supporters. I suppose you could argue that the Liberal party of Canada is not left-wing. The Liberals are definately left of centre.
Socially I would say I'm left of centre; however fiscally I'm definately a conservative.
I'm not anti-union; but I definately think that Canada has way too many unions that are too powerful, too greedy and do not have their members interest at heart.
Super Genius
Posts: 1,065
Location: Montréal, Québec
Location: Montréal, Québec
May 13th, 2004, 04:59 PM
Quoting
Just like that woman who worked for Heritage Canada. She was a member of a seperatist group. Not just a member she was the bloody president. When the gov't asked her to choose between her seperatist organization or her job her union came to her aid.
Imagine?!
They did a good job at that. She has a right to her opinion and last itme I checked, quebec isnt seperated. The Union protected her from discrimination. That is what they are there for!
Just like that woman who worked for Heritage Canada. She was a member of a seperatist group. Not just a member she was the bloody president. When the gov't asked her to choose between her seperatist organization or her job her union came to her aid.
Imagine?!
Newbie
Posts: 6
May 13th, 2004, 05:19 PM
would you be okay if police officers were members of the Heritage Front? and their union protected them from being fired because its okay to be a racist/white supremicist on your own time?
My god man.. you amaze me!
Heritage Canada's objective is to promote CANADIAN unity and history. I disagree with the whole department because I'm not one for patriotism but good god. You can't have seperatists working there.
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You don't see a problem with someone working at Heritage Canada who is also a member of a Quebec Seperatist group? Quoting
Just like that woman who worked for Heritage Canada. She was a member of a seperatist group. Not just a member she was the bloody president. When the gov't asked her to choose between her seperatist organization or her job her union came to her aid.
Imagine?!
They did a good job at that. She has a right to her opinion and last itme I checked, quebec isnt seperated. The Union protected her from discrimination. That is what they are there for!
Just like that woman who worked for Heritage Canada. She was a member of a seperatist group. Not just a member she was the bloody president. When the gov't asked her to choose between her seperatist organization or her job her union came to her aid.
Imagine?!
would you be okay if police officers were members of the Heritage Front? and their union protected them from being fired because its okay to be a racist/white supremicist on your own time?
My god man.. you amaze me!
Heritage Canada's objective is to promote CANADIAN unity and history. I disagree with the whole department because I'm not one for patriotism but good god. You can't have seperatists working there.
