Canada benefiting from U.S. brain drain as skilled workers flee Trump


B00Mer
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Canada benefiting from U.S. brain drain as skilled workers flee Trump



One month in, it's unclear what impact Donald Trump's erratic presidency will have on Canada, but there already appears to be one upside: an influx of skilled workers.

Jokes about moving north were common during last year's election campaign, but in the wake of Trump's travel ban and other concerning policies, some U.S. residents seem intent on actually taking the plunge.

That's according to Vancouver immigration lawyer Richard Kurland, who told CTV News he's received a flood of calls from people interested in moving to Canada.

"This represents for Canada what I call the 'Trump Dividend.' We see the best of the best trampoline out of the United States to yield high-level, high-paying salaries in top tier professions," Kurland said.

"We are reaping human capital the same way America reaped human capital during that awful World War II period, where the brightest and the best departed Europe for the sanctuary of America."

The requests are primarily coming from tech industry workers, Kurland said, almost all of whom are Muslims concerned about the direction the U.S. is taking.

"The word repeated in eight out of 10 interviews was 'fear.' And I've never seen that before," he said. "These are highly educated, PhD-level or senior executives who said they've had enough."

In the U.S., major tech companies, including Google and Amazon, utilize the country’s H1B visas to recruit thousands of foreign professionals to work in America for an allotted time period.

Microsoft alone currently has 5,000 such workers in the country, according to reports.

But in the wake of Trump's travel ban, which was put on hold by the courts but is expected to be replaced next week, some firms have announced they are considering moving their hires to other countries instead.

Seeking to capitalize on the trend, entrepreneur Michael Tippett recently launched True North, a company geared toward relocating workers and setting up satellite offices in Vancouver.

Tippett said he's already fielding hundreds of requests from Silicon Valley.

"People are concerned things might change in unpredictable ways and they want to set up, essentially, an insurance policy where they can move people up here in the event something unexpected happened," he said.

It’s all welcome news to the B.C. government, which has prioritized growing the province’s tech sector. Jobs Minister Shirley Bond said a surge in skilled workers could create a ripple effect in the industry.

"We will continue to make sure that the tech sector knows it's welcome here in British Columbia," Bond said.

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Danbones
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They were afraid?...awwww...poor lil babes are traitors to their own country
send em back to deal with their own crap instead of installing their crap here
we have our own skilled workers
hire them
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

They were afraid?...awwww...poor lil babes are traitors to their own country
send em back to deal with their own crap instead of installing their crap here
we have our own skilled workers
hire them

Don't be stupid.. well you can't help it..

A majority of these people are immigrants to the USA who have engineering degrees, computer science degrees and who are extremely well educated. So no worry of them replacing your profession.

They are moving to Canada to fill in 1000's of jobs that can't be filled because there are no Canadians to fill them.

Thousands of tech jobs will go unfilled | Ottawa & Region | News | Ottawa Sun (external - login to view)

"There will be as many as 182,000 high-paying technology jobs up for grabs in Canada by 2019..."
 
Bar Sinister
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Don't be stupid.. well you can't help it..

A majority of these people are immigrants to the USA who have engineering degrees, computer science degrees and who are extremely well educated. So no worry of them replacing your profession.

They are moving to Canada to fill in 1000's of jobs that can't be filled because there are no Canadians to fill them.

Thousands of tech jobs will go unfilled | Ottawa & Region | News | Ottawa Sun (external - login to view)

"There will be as many as 182,000 high-paying technology jobs up for grabs in Canada by 2019..."

You're telling Bonehead not to be stupid? That's a waste of time judging from his posts. So far as the post is concerned, the CBC News had a feature on the various highly skilled immigrants who have flocked to New Brunswick in a response to adds for highly skilled professionals.

N.B. employers have jobs they can't fill

It looks as if US xenophobia is working in Canada's favour.
 
Jinentonix
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Wait til the poor buggers discover they've stumbled into a dictatorship in the making. Of course if they're brainwashed leftards, they probably won't care.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by Bar SinisterView Post

You're telling Bonehead not to be stupid? That's a waste of time judging from his posts. So far as the post is concerned, the CBC News had a feature on the various highly skilled immigrants who have flocked to New Brunswick in a response to adds for highly skilled professionals.

N.B. employers have jobs they can't fill

It looks as if US xenophobia is working in Canada's favour.

Yeah I saw that report on CBC news.. pretty dam awesome how Canada is benefiting from US bigotry.

We should be proud as Canadians..
 
petros
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Sounds like bullshit to me. Kinda like the whopping 110 Mexicans that are seeking asylum.
 
pgs
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Sounds like bullshit to me. Kinda like the whopping 110 Mexicans that are seeking asylum.

Yea we don't produce any computer science grads in our schools .
 
Tecumsehsbones
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It's a deluge.
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by petrosView Post

Sounds like bullshit to me. Kinda like the whopping 110 Mexicans that are seeking asylum.

110 people seeking asylum, lol.. 16 million illegals in the USA and we are worried about 110 individuals?

I remember when I first returned to Canada I almost hit the sidewall on hwy 1 when I saw a whole bunch of East Indians in lower mainland in the cranberry fields.

So used to seeing hispanics in orange groves outside Bakersfield, California and cotton fields in Texas.. all the colourful turbans in Canada working the agro fields.

I hear it's pretty much the same in Kelowna in the apple orchards.

Last edited by B00Mer; 5 days ago at 09:42 AM..
 
Danbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Don't be stupid.. well you can't help it..

A majority of these people are immigrants to the USA who have engineering degrees, computer science degrees and who are extremely well educated. So no worry of them replacing your profession.

They are moving to Canada to fill in 1000's of jobs that can't be filled because there are no Canadians to fill them.

Thousands of tech jobs will go unfilled | Ottawa & Region | News | Ottawa Sun (external - login to view)

"There will be as many as 182,000 high-paying technology jobs up for grabs in Canada by 2019..."

Listen stupid( you though Hillary was a shoe in remember haha, how dumb can you get?)

We have universities that train those people and if there is a need, the guidance departments in the high schools will send them there.

"Economists call it a skills “mismatch.” The country is in dire need of engineers, health workers and skilled tradespeople. Yet tens of thousands of students continue to pursue degrees in the arts and humanities. The result is an unemployment rate that refuses to fall below seven per cent (about 13.5 per cent among youth), while employers increasingly complain about vacant jobs that promise good wages—particularly in Western Canada, where the oil, gas and mining industries are booming.

“The new phenomenon here is that we’re going to be seeing pockets of persistent high unemployment existing right alongside serious worker shortages in particular industries,” says Perrin Beatty, a former member of Parliament and the chamber’s CEO."
The future of jobs in Canada - Macleans.ca (external - login to view)

Get it?
Guidance councilors need to smarten up - that's all we need to import.
Of course, if you can't do, teach. If you can't teach, become a guidance councilor.

If you can't do any of that, write on the internet about how you can fikk up the whole country with short term stupidity.

but no....what you want is to generate unhireable dishwashers for ever
 
Twila
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this is excellent news.

If the smart ones are worried about the direction of their country...
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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The smart ones or the ideologues?
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

The smart ones or the ideologues?

the ideologues would stay.
 
Danbones
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Do you run from your problems?
or stand up and face them down?
just askin
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

Do you run from your problems?
or stand up and face them down?
just askin

Seeking out a better life and a better career isn't running from your problem.. particularly if you have the education and degree to back it up.

Now if you're a clerk as the local 7/11, I guess you don't have a choice but to "stand up and face down your problems;" so best of luck to you.. LOL
 
captain morgan
Bloc Québécois
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The real question is; will these same folks pull up anchor every time a political party that they don't support takes power?
 
Danbones
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Seeking out a better life and a better career isn't running from your problem.. particularly if you have the education and degree to back it up.

Now if you're a clerk as the local 7/11, I guess you don't have a choice but to "stand up and face down your problems;" so best of luck to you.. LOL

I spent a lot of time building tricky things and having to correct engineers' mistakes dumb a$$.
Running is for pansies

here is the future for you hitlaryites:

Opinion: This home-building robot could put human construction crews out of business
This home-building robot could put human construction crews out of business - MarketWatch (external - login to view)

Watch a giant house-building robot lay 1,000 bricks per hour
Watch a Giant Bricklaying Robot Build a House in This Time-lapse Video | Digital Trends (external - login to view)

Watch a lightning-fast robot build a house in just two days
https://www.cnet.com/news/watch-a-li...just-two-days/ (external - login to view)

The engineering has already been done, and any new engineering can be done by companies from anywhere in the world - like India, which produces more engineers then the US does graduates.

Canada does NOT NEED any more LIBERAL ARTS IDIOTS we need intelligently planned graduates
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captain morgan
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just take a look at the number of people that are being replaced in the banks and fast food joints via automation and tech.

The future don't look so great for many right now
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by captain morganView Post

The real question is; will these same folks pull up anchor every time a political party that they don't support takes power?

Many have been very clear about their reasons from moving to Canada, and it's not about Trump.

Safe and secure government, our gun laws, socialized health care for all, the people are friendly and not full of bigotry and hate...

If you have children where would you want them to grow up, the USA or Canada?
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

Do you run from your problems?
or stand up and face them down?
just askin

are you just askin? Or are you laying the bait to jump down someones throat whom feels different about nationalism then you?

Just askin..
 
Danbones
Free Thinker
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Many have been very clear about their reasons from moving to Canada, and it's not about Trump.

Safe and secure government, our gun laws, socialized health care for all, the people are friendly and not full of bigotry and hate...

If you have children where would you want them to grow up, the USA or Canada?


I'd like them to grow up and get a job here in Canada and not have to compete with run away chickentards

Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

are you just askin? Or are you laying the bait to jump down someones throat whom feels different about nationalism then you?

Just askin..

lol
That was a simple question you just ran from
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

I spent a lot of time building tricky things and having to correct engineers' mistakes dumb a$$.
Running is for pansies

here is the future for you hitlaryites:

Opinion: This home-building robot could put human construction crews out of business
This home-building robot could put human construction crews out of business - MarketWatch (external - login to view)

Watch a giant house-building robot lay 1,000 bricks per hour
Watch a Giant Bricklaying Robot Build a House in This Time-lapse Video | Digital Trends (external - login to view)

Watch a lightning-fast robot build a house in just two days
https://www.cnet.com/news/watch-a-li...just-two-days/ (external - login to view)

The engineering has already been done, and any new engineering can be done by companies from anywhere in the world - like India, which produces more engineers then the US does graduates.

Canada does NOT NEED anymore LIBERAL ARTS IDIOTS we need intelligently planned graduates

Very reason why Ontario is bring in a Universal Basic Income, technology is replacing workings.. changes will have to be made, re-education, taxing companies different who displace humans.. that's a whole different thread.

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/201...c-support.html
 
captain morgan
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Many have been very clear about their reasons from moving to Canada, and it's not about Trump.

Safe and secure government, our gun laws, socialized health care for all, the people are friendly and not full of bigotry and hate...

If you have children where would you want them to grow up, the USA or Canada?


The title of the thread states that these workers are fleeing Trump
 
Danbones
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Quote:

Very reason why Ontario is bring in a Universal Basic Income, technology is replacing workings.. changes will have to be made, re-education, taxing companies different who displace humans.. that's a whole different thread

So thats what they are running to - A FREE RIDE eh?

We don't need welfare:
welfare ends your life
 
Twila
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I think the most important thing a person can do is protect their family. If that means pulling up stakes and leaving, then so be it.

Staying and fighting for a piece of dirt is silly and in some cases dangerous.

I bet this engineers family wished they'd left...

An Indian Software Engineer Shot Dead In USA | Countercurrents (external - login to view)
 
B00Mer
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Quote: Originally Posted by TwilaView Post

An Indian Software Engineer Shot Dead In USA | Countercurrents (external - login to view)

Geeez man, R.I.P.

He could have moved to Halifax.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-s...tion-1.3967356
 
Twila
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Quote: Originally Posted by DanbonesView Post

So thats what they are running to - A FREE RIDE eh?

We don't need welfare:
welfare ends your life

thanks to welfare, my daughter and I were able to weather the storm of her father leaving us.

didn't end my life. I'm not special. I'm typical.

why do people assume that those whom come from elsewhere are always interested in sitting on welfare? It's a xenophobic response given that the majority of people would prefer anything then slow starvation and disrespect at every turn which is exactly what being on welfare is like.
 
petros
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Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

110 people seeking asylum, lol.. 16 million illegals in the USA and we are worried about 110 individuals?

I remember when I first returned to Canada I almost hit the sidewall on hwy 1 when I saw a whole bunch of East Indians in lower mainland in the cranberry fields.

So used to seeing hispanics in orange groves outside Bakersfield, California and cotton fields in Texas.. all the colourful turbans in Canada working the agro fields.

I hear it's pretty much the same in Kelowna in the apple orchards.

Visas. Ever heard of them?

Quote: Originally Posted by B00MerView Post

Geeez man, R.I.P.

He could have moved to Halifax.

Nova Scotia boasts of immigration jump, but province still short of goals - Nova Scotia - CBC News

Moved Halifax to drink beer with a buddy?
 
Tecumsehsbones
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Maybe this will lead to the revival of "Canada's Got Talent," cancelled after one season for lack of material.
 

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