Trudeau abandons pledge on electoral reform

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The little pony just doesn't want to set a precedent by holding a referendum. The power brokers are worried that Canadians might like the idea and ask for more.





Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is abandoning his long-held promise to change the way Canadians vote in federal elections — an about-face his opposition rivals angrily characterized Wednesday as a cynical betrayal of trust.

In a mandate letter for newly appointed Democratic Institutions Minister Karina Gould, Trudeau makes it clear that electoral reform — once top of mind for the Liberal government — is no longer on the agenda.

“Changing the electoral system will not be in your mandate,” the prime minister writes in the letter, released Wednesday.

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A variety of consultations across the country have shown that Canadians are not clamouring for a change in the way they choose their federal government, the letter continues. It also rules out the possibility of a national referendum.

“A clear preference for a new electoral system, let alone a consensus, has not emerged,” Trudeau writes. “Furthermore, without a clear preference or a clear question, a referendum would not be in Canada’s interest.”


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Trudeau abandons pledge on electoral reform - The Globe and Mail
 

Remington1

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Ummm another promises just made to get votes. Worst is that the decision is made now, after so many people were involved and the exorbitant cost of this crazy project that should never have gotten off the ground.
 

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This seems like a sensible decision considering the problems, divisions and political grandstanding that emerged during the study and consultation. The Liberals handled it terribly but the opposition had no interest in it except to knock the Liberals down. It wouldn't make sense to change the electoral system without a referendum but no one really wanted to go through the logistic trouble of a referendum. And if there was a referendum I doubt it would succeed.

Voters are generally disenchanted with our electoral system but don't care enough to change it. That's the nature of democracy. People tend to be destructive and not constructive.
 

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We will make every vote count.

We are committed to ensuring that 2015 will be the last federal election conducted under the first-past-the-post voting system.

We will convene an all-party Parliamentary committee to review a wide variety of reforms, such as ranked ballots, proportional representation, mandatory voting, and online voting.

This committee will deliver its recommendations to Parliament. Within 18 months of forming government, we will introduce legislation to enact electoral reform.

https://www.liberal.ca/realchange/electoral-reform/

https://www.google.ca/#q="trudeau"+"election+reform"

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.@acoyne: It’s not the Liberals fault for lying about electoral reform, it’s yours for believing them


 

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We will make every vote count.

We are committed to ensuring that 2015 will be the last federal election conducted under the first-past-the-post voting system.

We will convene an all-party Parliamentary committee to review a wide variety of reforms, such as ranked ballots, proportional representation, mandatory voting, and online voting.

This committee will deliver its recommendations to Parliament. Within 18 months of forming government, we will introduce legislation to enact electoral reform.

https://www.liberal.ca/realchange/electoral-reform/

https://www.google.ca/#q="trudeau"+"election+reform"

National Post Verified account ‏@nationalpost
.@acoyne: It’s not the Liberals fault for lying about electoral reform, it’s yours for believing them



Sanity prevails. A bad idea dies a death. The worst thing that Trudeau did was to open his yap and suggest the bad idea, in the first place.

This seems like a sensible decision considering the problems, divisions and political grandstanding that emerged during the study and consultation. The Liberals handled it terribly but the opposition had no interest in it except to knock the Liberals down. It wouldn't make sense to change the electoral system without a referendum but no one really wanted to go through the logistic trouble of a referendum. And if there was a referendum I doubt it would succeed.

Voters are generally disenchanted with our electoral system but don't care enough to change it. That's the nature of democracy. People tend to be destructive and not constructive.

Rep by pop makes the central, densly populated parts of the country even more politically powerful than they are now. This will only exacerbate and amplify the regional disparities that we already have. What a bad idea.
 

mentalfloss

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It was a smart move.


Wow, people are saying that alot about Trudeau and not Trump.


Huh.
 

EagleSmack

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Ummm another promises just made to get votes. Worst is that the decision is made now, after so many people were involved and the exorbitant cost of this crazy project that should never have gotten off the ground.

Are Canadians used to his promise breaking by now? I would think they should be.
 

mentalfloss

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You know the saying.

Better a Trudeau promise broken than a Trump promise kept.
 

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But if there is anything that you should have learned by now, after the two deficits of $10 billion that turned into 40 years of deficits as high as $30 billion — and the non-combat mission against ISIS that turned into troops on the ground firing and being fired upon; and the open competition to replace the F-35 that turned into another sole source contract; and the Saudi arms deal and the “revenue neutral” tax cut and all the rest — that you have no business believing a word that comes out of this prime minister’s mouth; that the most solemn promises, however unequivocal and however often repeated, are to him and the people around him mere bait for the gullible; and that if you ever believe anything they tell you ever again, on any matter large or small, if you ever trust them to keep their word from this day forward, then you deserve everything you have coming to you.

Andrew Coyne: It’s not the Liberals’ fault for lying about electoral reform, it’s yours for believing them | National Post

He lied.

Over and over and over and over and over. He is not a simply a liar, he is a perpetual lying machine, and like most sociopaths, he just can't stop, and he is absolutely sure you won't notice, because you're stupid, and he is so smart.

Let's give him a big surprize in 2019.
 

EagleSmack

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Andrew Coyne: It’s not the Liberals’ fault for lying about electoral reform, it’s yours for believing them | National Post

He lied.

Over and over and over and over and over. He is not a simply a liar, he is a perpetual lying machine, and like most sociopaths, he just can't stop, and he is absolutely sure you won't notice, because you're stupid, and he is so smart.

Let's give him a big surprize in 2019.

It was never about keeping promises... it was about winning. The Liberals learned well at the feet of their Masters in the U.S Democrat Party.