Trudeau rightfully maintains carbon tax plan despite Trump victory

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Good.

Stand up to that mook.



Carbon price plan

During today's news conference, Trudeau was also asked if Canada's carbon-tax plan would put our country at an economic disadvantage, given that Trump is opposed to such a scheme. But the prime minister insisted there is "tremendous economic disadvantage" to not taking strong action in the fight against climate change.

"We know that putting a price on carbon pollution is a way to improve our response to economic challenges, to create good jobs going forward, and to show leadership the whole world is looking for along with the solutions that go with it," he said.

Trudeau also expressed little concern that Trump is keen to renegotiate, if not rip up, the North American Free Trade Agreement.

"As our ambassador said, if the Americans want to talk about NAFTA, I'm more than happy to talk about it," he said, referring to recent comments by Canada's ambassador to the U.S., David MacNaughton.

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Decapoda

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I fail to see the economic advantage in willfully hobbling ourselves in the international market.

Of course this concept is coming from a guy who declares budgets balance themselves, and then a year later declares a budget deficit of $32,000,000,000.00.
 

PoliticalNick

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Stand up to that mook.
How non-PC of you...hypocrite!
During today's news conference, Trudeau was also asked if Canada's carbon-tax plan would put our country at an economic disadvantage, given that Trump is opposed to such a scheme. But the prime minister insisted there is "tremendous economic disadvantage" to not taking strong action in the fight against climate change.

"We know that putting a price on carbon pollution is a way to improve our response to economic challenges, to create good jobs going forward, and to show leadership the whole world is looking for along with the solutions that go with it," he said.
Proving Trudoh is as delusional as you and has even less understanding of economics if that's possible.
Trudeau also expressed little concern that Trump is keen to renegotiate, if not rip up, the North American Free Trade Agreement.

"As our ambassador said, if the Americans want to talk about NAFTA, I'm more than happy to talk about it," he said, referring to recent comments by Canada's ambassador to the U.S., David MacNaughton.
Like a failed drama teacher and river rafting guide is going to be able to negotiate with a billionaire businessman. Trump will write a new contract and the Tater-tot will take a few selfies while signing it.

The stupid ones are those that actually worry about the economy.

Usually referred to as the middle class working families that support your lazy ignorant a$$.
 

Christianna

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NAFTA was never meant to benefit anyone other than Americans! If that man does dispose of NAFTA maybe we will then get fair prices for our oil, wood and other resources.
 

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NAFTA was never meant to benefit anyone other than Americans! If that man does dispose of NAFTA maybe we will then get fair prices for our oil, wood and other resources.

Without NAFTA, the US could pay us half of what they now pay for our oil and you could do nothing about it.

What would you do then, tell them you're not going to sell them any oil? They couldn't care less if you said no oil to the US. Then what are you going to do with our oil?

I think you need to learn how NAFTA, because your just plain dumb.
 

petros

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it's not a matter of 'standing up' to anybody.


our policies aren't determined by the president of the US
No they arent and that is why a carbon tax in Washington State was voted down when put to the people.

That wasn't Trump’s doing.

Did we get an option?
 

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I believe that Trumps' NAFTA changes will be minimum at best. Canada, Mexico and the US together are collectively more appealing to the global market than individually. There are some pretty heavy hitters out there. NAFTA remains the largest free trade in the world. Companies moving to Mexico did result in job lost, but if Trump does impose a 35% (Mexico) and 40% (China) tariffs on product reentering the US, well it's a promise that could pose a lot of economic woes for Trump.
 

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A gas tax has its merits, but we'll have to offset it with cuts to business taxes, income taxes, and value-added taxes like the GST.
 

PoliticalNick

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A gas tax has its merits, but we'll have to offset it with cuts to business taxes, income taxes, and value-added taxes like the GST.

Why would you spend millions to implement a new tax and make changes to other taxes to end up with the same rate of taxation and general revenue. Logic obviously isn't part of your character.
 

Machjo

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Why would you spend millions to implement a new tax and make changes to other taxes to end up with the same rate of taxation and general revenue. Logic obviously isn't part of your character.

You do realise don't you that a tax affects consumption habits?

For example, a tax on tobacco, alcohol, and lottery tickets affects spending habits differently than a simple across-the-board income tax or value-added tax does, even if the revenue is the same. You understand that, right?

If for example we raise the carbon tax and lower other taxes, while our gas industry becomes less competitive, our other industries become more competitive. You understand the concept, right?
 

Ron in Regina

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A gas tax has its merits, but we'll have to offset it with cuts to business taxes, income taxes, and value-added taxes like the GST.

If what you propose is balancing a further gas tax, and offsetting it
with cuts to other taxes that're already being collected, then couldn't
some bean-counter in the Gov't just accomplish what you propose
in a ledger book in the basement of some Gov't hellhole somewhere,
and call it job done? Smack the dust off his (or her) hands, and call it
a day? No pomp or selfies needed.

Anyway, the USA is by far Canada's largest trading partner, and thus
our largest competitor, and the one and only country that Canada is
physically connected to. Aside from the USA, physically, our next
closest neighbour is what? Siberia? What's our trade value with
Siberia at this point?

On that note, if our largest trade partner (& competitor) isn't going to
hobble itself with a carbon tax impediment, where can this possibly
be a good thing for Canada? Our market is already a fraction of the
American market, so we'd further hamstring ourselves with this
Albatross? Great idea there Justin! Good Job!!

You do realise don't you that a tax affects consumption habits?

For example, a tax on tobacco, alcohol, and lottery tickets affects spending habits differently than a simple across-the-board income tax or value-added tax does, even if the revenue is the same. You understand that, right?

If for example we raise the carbon tax and lower other taxes, while our gas industry becomes less competitive, our other industries become more competitive. You understand the concept, right?

I understand the concept. Do you realize how much the oil & gas industry
props up the Canadian economy? Trudeau is already running HUGE deficits
without cutting other taxes to offset new taxes when all this goes into general
revenue anyway and then right out the window at this point in time.
 

Curious Cdn

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Trudeau rightfully maintains carbon tax plan despite Trump victory

There's so much money to be harvested from Canadians, coast to coast!

Let the Yanks make up and levy their own taxes and name them what they want to.
 

petros

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You do realise don't you that a tax affects consumption habits?

For example, a tax on tobacco, alcohol, and lottery tickets affects spending habits differently than a simple across-the-board income tax or value-added tax does, even if the revenue is the same. You understand that, right?

If for example we raise the carbon tax and lower other taxes, while our gas industry becomes less competitive, our other industries become more competitive. You understand the concept, right?
I don't drive beer to work everyday.
 

10larry

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Juggling tax columns may satisfy justins' green thrust and create the illusion he is at least serious about something but coin dumped into gen revenues simply feeds his credit card addiction.

petros sez: 'I don't drive beer to work everyday' a privileged chap like justin has no clue on pay cheque to pay cheque strife, gas is not a luxury item for plenty of folks.