Maryam Monsef case highlights 'absurdity' of Canadian law, refugee lawyers say

[Machjo]

Maryam Monsef case highlights 'absurdity' of Canadian law, refugee lawyers say - Politics - CBC News

We'll soon find out if Federal cabinet ministers are above the law.

Don't get me wrong. That law is absolutely ludicrous and anyone who'd voted for it must have been smoking something potent. But Monsef's own Liberal cabinet colleague has been enforcing it aggressively.

However stupid that law may be, there is no way she should not be deported while her own cabinet colleague has been enforcing it aggressively.

If she gets away with it (not that it's even her fault), however foolish the law is, then we'll know cabinet members live under a separate set of laws.

 

[Corduroy]

Good. This kind of embarrassment should motivate them to change that law.

 

[Machjo]

Good. This kind of embarrassment should motivate them to change that law.

Right, but only because she is the Honourable Maryam Monsef, Cabinet Minister.

Had it not been for that, she'd be that lying terrorist-sympathizing immigration scammer Myriam who needs to be deported pronto for national security reasons. After all, just look at her dark hair and tanned skin.

And my Gawd, she might be a Muslim to boot.

Now I want to hear the Conservative Party cry high and loud: Deport Monsef! Deport Monsef! Deport Monsef!

They would be looking forward to a by-election in her riding. If you can't beat 'em fair and square in an election, get 'em deported!

 

[Curious Cdn]

You mean that refugees should be able to lie with impunity?

You're going to end up letting mass murders in that are mixed with the refugees ... as has happened before, I might add.


Forget about Maryam Monsef and her innocent gaffe. Refugees who intentionally misrepresent themselves should be quick-marched to the nearest airport.

Entrance to Canada is not a right of any sort. It is a gift given by the people of Canada.

 

[Machjo]

You mean that refugees should be able to lie with impunity?

You're going to end up letting mass murders in that are mixed with the refugees ... as has happened before, I might add.

But the Honourable Myriam Monsef didn't lie. Her mother did because she didn't think it was important.

As stupid as the law is, I do think she should be deported on the principle that the law must apply even to Cabinet Ministers. Let the by-election begin.

Deport Monsef! Deport Monsef! Deport Monsef!

 

[Curious Cdn]

But the Honourable Myriam Monsef didn't lie. Her mother did because she didn't think it was important.

As stupid as the law is, I do think she should be deported on the principle that the law must apply even to Cabinet Ministers. Let the by-election begin.

Deport Monsef! Deport Monsef! Deport Monsef!

I didn't say that she did but her case is very unusual and the law should stand for legitimate reasons. I'm sure that an exception will be made for her odd circumstance.

 

[Machjo]

I didn't say that she did but her case is very unusual and the law should stand for legitimate reasons. I'm sure that an exception will be made for her odd circumstance.

What circumstance? That she's a Cabinet Minister and above the law? She does have the advantage of passing by the Minister responsible for her personal fine and asking him the favour of of pulling some strings for her. It's all about who know, right.

 

[Curious Cdn]

What circumstance? That she's a Cabinet Minister and above the law? She does have the advantage of passing by the Minister responsible for her personal fine and asking him the favour of of pulling some strings for her. It's all about who know, right.

No. It was an innocent mistake that she had no knowledge of. I doubt that she is trying to hide anything ... but that should be looked in to.

 

[Machjo]

No. It was an innocent mistake that she had no knowledge of. I doubt that she is trying to hide anything ... but that should be looked in to.

You didn't read the article. The point is that it doesn't matter whether it's her mistake or not under the wording of the law and she's not allowed a hearing. Some have circumvented it if they could afford a lawyer on Charter grounds, so let her hire herself a lawyer like every other citizen. Show Canada the true colours of our immigration system.

But again, the CBSA will not be escorting her onto a plane cause she's the Honourable Myriam Monsef and her colleague who's been aggressively enforcing this law for Joe Blogins will treat his Honourable colleague with silk gloves.

 

[Curious Cdn]

You didn't read the article. The point is that it doesn't matter whether it's her mistake or not under the wording of the law and she's not allowed a hearing. Some have circumvented it if they could afford a lawyer on Charter grounds, so let her hire herself a lawyer like every other citizen. Show Canada the true colours of our immigration system.

But again, the CBSA will not be escorting her onto a plane cause she's the Honourable Myriam Monsef and her colleague who's been aggressively enforcing this law for Joe Blogins will treat his Honourable colleague with silk gloves.

Well, somebody in our government let thousands of SS officers into Canada with the rest of the D.P.s seventy years ago. They must have known what they were doing.

 

[spaminator]

in related news Maryam monsefs mother admits that her daughters last name is actually bin laden.

 

[Machjo]

in related news Maryam monsefs mother admits that her daughters last name is actually bin laden.

And the police statent that stated it stated it in a police statement, so it must be true. Take our word for it. To serve and protect!

Well, somebody in our government let thousands of SS officers into Canada with the rest of the D.P.s seventy years ago. They must have known what they were doing.

We'll never have a perfect system. Proof beyond a reasonable doubt has the disadvantage of letting criminals escape on occasion, but I'd rather that than a prison filled with innocent's.

Most Canadians agree with this principle, but for whatever reason, their hearts draw the line at immigrants.

Now that the Honourable Myriam Monsef puts a human face to the reality of Canada's immigration system, I say drag her mother and her before the IRB as per the law to see how many other faceless immigrants have sealed their fate in Canada. The present law doesn't care that it's her fault. It just says to deport her without a trial.

Let's not be soft on her just because she's a cabinet minister. Not above the law.

We should start a Deport Monsef! campaign just to rub in how absolutely stupid the law is. Maybe the Honourable opposition might want to march in the front line?

 

[Corduroy]

Now I want to hear the Conservative Party cry high and loud: Deport Monsef! Deport Monsef! Deport Monsef!

I doubt the Conservative Party will officially call for her deportation, but there are plenty of supporters that would like her deported regardless.

 

[Machjo]

I doubt the Conservative Party will officially call for her deportation, but there are plenty of supporters that would like her deported regardless.

Why would those hypocrites not call for her deportation? Do they disagree with a law that they themselves drafted and voted into law.

Come on Cons, join in the chant:

Deport Monsef! Deport Monsef! Deport Monsef!

Show you stand by your laws, Cons!



Besides, having her deported is the easiest way to remove a competitor and open up a riding for a by-election.

 

[Corduroy]

Why would those hypocrites not call for her deportation? Do they disagree with a law that they themselves drafted and voted into law.

Publicly, yes. Calling for Monsef's deportation wouldn't play well with the public, nor does supporting any of the laws that got them booted out of office. The Conservatives have to pretend they aren't conservatives while out of office.

 

[Machjo]

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.the...-born-in-iran.html?client=ms-android-motorola

'Monsef says the place of her birth, 200 kilometres from the Afghan border, didn’t matter to her mother, she never viewed it as important.

'“My sisters and I asked my mother why she never told us we were born in Iran. She told us she did not think it mattered. We were Afghan citizens, as we were born to Afghan parents, and under Iranian law, we would not be considered Iranian citizens despite being born in that country.”

'However, the Conservative party’s critic on immigration and citizenship, MP Michelle Rempel, posted on her Twitter account a series of questions saying Monsef’s story now raises “tough” questions.'

It looks like the Honourable Michelle Rempel us already gearing up for a by-election. Just wait till Kelly Leitch gets a hold of this news to feed her Canadian values rhetoric.

I'm sure the CBSA is just itching to deport a cabinet minister.

 

[Johnnny]

It's a tough situation.

But in general if someone knowingly lies on their application forms to come here then I think that is grounds for disqualification.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

I think as long as the Lieberals continue to enforce this law they are supposedly against, they better deport her and strip her of citizenship. Just because one is a Lieberal should not make one immune from the law.

 

[Machjo]

It's a tough situation.

But in general if someone knowingly lies on their application forms to come here then I think that is grounds for disqualification.

What about deporting someone for someone else's lie? Should we just deport her widowed mother instead?

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

What about deporting someone for someone else's lie? Should we just deport her widowed mother instead?

In addition ... or course if she answered her own citizenship correctly than not at all.