The NDP Should Become A Labour Party Again

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When the Labour Day parades begin Monday, New Democratic Party politicians will, as usual, be there.

For a party that was co-founded by the union movement, participation in the annual event is a symbolic must.

National party leader Tom Mulcair may have mixed views about Toronto – a city that shut out the NDP entirely in last year’s federal election.

But he is scheduled to march in Toronto’s Labour Day parade anyway. To miss it would be like the Pope skipping Easter Mass.

Yet this symbolic attachment of the NDP to organized labour obscures the real strains that have developed between the two sides.

Some within the party don’t want to be tied too closely to a movement they view as out-of-date.

To these New Democrats, organized labour is an albatross weighing heavily on the party’s neck. Except for a few industrial towns, being onside with the unions wins the party few votes. Indeed, it may lose them some.

Unions, these New Democrats fret, are not cool.

Conversely, some unions find they reap no practical benefits from supporting a party that is rarely in power.

To make matters worse, even when the NDP does form government it can be just as harsh toward organized labour as the more right-wing parties.

As a result, some unions have softened their support for the NDP. Canada’s largest private-sector union, Unifor, now routinely recommends strategic voting.

In both the 2014 Ontario election and the 2015 federal contest, Unifor called on voters outside of safe NDP constituencies to cast their ballots for whichever party was best able to defeat the Conservatives.

In practical terms, that meant the union, in most cases, supported the Liberals.

All of this is sadly ironic. We live in a time when labour needs a political party willing to work for it. And the NDP needs a reason to exist.

Labour needs a political party because unions, on their own, are a declining force. Only 29 per cent of the Canadian workforce is unionized. The number continues to fall.

This has happened because the economy, once characterized by large manufacturing plants, is now dominated by smaller service firms that, under current labour laws, are more difficult to unionize.

The decline of well-paying union jobs is one of the key factors behind the rise in income inequality that politicians routinely fret about.

Yet to reverse this trend would require a total rethinking of employment and labour laws, most of which were designed in the 1940s and ‘50s.

Among other things, the laws must be amended to eliminate the loophole that allows so many employers to pretend their workers are independent contractors who do not qualify for benefits or statutory protection.

As well, labour relations laws would have to be changed to allow unions organizing, say, fast-food franchise outlets, to take on the ultimate employer.

These are just a couple of examples. The point is that, if unions are to survive, labour laws must be rethought.
That in turn requires a political party willing to do the rethinking.

Is the NDP that party? It hasn’t been in recent years. Both federally and provincially, the New Democrats have focused on the mechanics of voter targeting – on how to win support from, say, seniors or small business owners or families with kids.

In short, they have tried to out-Liberal the Liberals. And in that contest – both nationally and provincially – the real Liberals have won.

But now, having failed at faux Liberalism, the NDP has a chance to try something radically different. The labour party formed in 1961 to represent the interests of working people could, in fact, do just that.

Provincially, the NDP could focus on labour and employment law. Federally, the party could take on, in a coherent and consistent way, the free-trade orthodoxy that promises to destroy good Canadian jobs.

Or New Democrats could simply ignore the needs of the old-fashioned working class and, as is happening in the U.S. and Europe, surrender the field to the far right. That too is an option.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/com...-ndp-should-become-a-labour-party-walkom.html
 

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Who other than labour-union members will vote for a party that represents only labour unions?

Not all labour-union members are poor, and not all entrepreneurs are rich. To think in such terms is overly simplistic.

In some cases, a worker might be better paid than his manager if he possesses certain skills. It does happen.
 

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Who other than labour-union members will vote for a party that represents only labour unions?

Not all labour-union members are poor, and not all entrepreneurs are rich. To think in such terms is overly simplistic.

In some cases, a worker might be better paid than his manager if he possesses certain skills. It does happen.

Representing Labour (workers) does not limit them to Unions only but to all workers of all classifications....


Labour needs a political party because unions, on their own, are a declining force. Only 29 per cent of the Canadian workforce is unionized.
 

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Representing Labour (workers) does not limit them to Unions only but to all workers of all classifications....


Labour needs a political party because unions, on their own, are a declining force. Only 29 per cent of the Canadian workforce is unionized.

Right... I'd passed by a union office recently and in the window it was promoting anti-'scab' laws.

Trust me, the NDP cannot represent nonunionized labour without first distancing itself from organised labour.

It needs to represent entrepreneurs too.
 

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Who other than labour-union members will vote for a party that represents only labour unions?

Not all labour-union members are poor, and not all entrepreneurs are rich. To think in such terms is overly simplistic.

In some cases, a worker might be better paid than his manager if he possesses certain skills. It does happen.

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Big labour has shrunk way down into represesnting a small but affluent elite of Canadian workers. If you take away the various levels of government employees, there isn't a lot left. Those jobs have permanently left our shores ... too expensive to produce in Canada in a union environment.The government employees have pensions and benefits far beyond ths dreams of most "real" working Canadians. If the NDP maintains any pretensions of representiong most or all Canadians they will need to take a closer look at what a "worker" is today and not some 120 year old model cooked up by Katrl Marx. The prolitarian flips burgers at one job, mans a gas bar at night and so does their partner, in order to make two thirds of what the union elite clears, without any of their benefits or job security.

Welcome to Post-industrialism.
 

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Right... I'd passed by a union office recently and in the window it was promoting anti-'scab' laws.

Trust me, the NDP cannot represent nonunionized labour without first distancing itself from organised labour.

It needs to represent entrepreneurs too.

Who makes laws that protect Non Unionized workers?


How have labour unions benefitted our society? Union activism brought us:

Weekends! Literally. There used to be an expression: "Don't come to work on Sunday, don't come to work on Monday." Meaning, if you took one day off, you were fired.

Provincial and Federal Labour Codes for all workers.
Paid vacations
The 8-hour work day
An end to child labour, so every child could have an education
Rest breaks
Equal pay for equal work for women
Sick leave
Canada Pension Plan
Universal health care
The minimum wage
Pregnancy and parental Leave
The right to strike
Anti-discrimination rules at work
Overtime pay
Health and safety rules
The 40 hour work week (44 in Ontario thanks to Mike Harris and Wynne)
Worker’s compensation for on-the-job injuries
Employment Insurance
Pensions
Public education!
Collective bargaining rights
Wrongful termination laws
Whistleblower protection laws
Anti- harassment laws
Paid Statutory Days off




www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiqzDsO3xhs
 

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Good points Tay
To be fair though, they were muchly mob controlled, and had enough clout to make presidents like JFK
and the powers that be are putting up Mulroneys ( selected to bust unions )
and Hillaries ( selected to bust EVERYTHING ) to take all that people power back

"When one looks at the way conservative politics has played out in Ontario over the past 30 years, a pattern emerges. From Brian Mulroney to Mike Harris to Stephen Harper -- even to Harris protégé Rob Ford -- and, if he gets his way in Ontario's upcoming provincial election, the pattern will continue under Tim Hudak.

The pattern? A systematic sabotaging of Ontario.

Why would any political leader want to sabotage, in any way, a major economic engine of the country? For the bigger picture: union busting.
Create a crisis, find a scapegoat, bankrupt the system, force change.
Ontario isn't, and wasn't, just a major economic engine, Ontario was and is, a major seat of union support and collective influence. Various movements on the far right, backed by powerful financial interests, have diligently sought ways to eradicate unions or at least cripple them to the point of complete impotence."
Vengeance is mine: The Conservative sabotaging of Ontario | rabble.ca

party affiliation is not the key here
It' dirty money - big honkin piles of useless paper, which wants to beat us all down

hows that for a backhanded agreement ?
lol

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Who makes laws that protect Non Unionized workers?


How have labour unions benefitted our society? Union activism brought us:

Weekends! Literally. There used to be an expression: "Don't come to work on Sunday, don't come to work on Monday." Meaning, if you took one day off, you were fired.

Provincial and Federal Labour Codes for all workers.
Paid vacations
The 8-hour work day
An end to child labour, so every child could have an education
Rest breaks
Equal pay for equal work for women
Sick leave
Canada Pension Plan
Universal health care
The minimum wage
Pregnancy and parental Leave
The right to strike
Anti-discrimination rules at work
Overtime pay
Health and safety rules
The 40 hour work week (44 in Ontario thanks to Mike Harris and Wynne)
Worker’s compensation for on-the-job injuries
Employment Insurance
Pensions
Public education!
Collective bargaining rights
Wrongful termination laws
Whistleblower protection laws
Anti- harassment laws
Paid Statutory Days off




www.youtube.com/watch?v=AiqzDsO3xhs

Wrong. The goverents legislated these. Labour unions have no jurisdictional powers.
 

tay

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Wrong. The goverents legislated these. Labour unions have no jurisdictional powers.

And why did those Politicians enact those laws? Do you really think those Politicians didn't realize there was something in pursuing that path for them?

You really need to take a course on the history of Labour in Canada and how they got their issue(s) turned into a law........

Strikes and Lockouts - The Canadian Encyclopedia
 

taxslave

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THe NDP ,espessially in BC does not represent workers. They represent government unions only. As proof the NDP has come out opposed to every major construction project that my union brothers and sisters depend on to earn a living. In BC is is the BC Liberals and federally the CPC that push to keep us working.
It is better to work non union than belong to a union that has no work.
 

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Who makes laws that protect Non Unionized workers?


How have labour unions benefitted our society? Union activism brought us:

Weekends! Literally. There used to be an expression: "Don't come to work on Sunday, don't come to work on Monday." Meaning, if you took one day off, you were fired.

Provincial and Federal Labour Codes for all workers.
Paid vacations
The 8-hour work day
An end to child labour, so every child could have an education
Rest breaks
Equal pay for equal work for women
Sick leave
Canada Pension Plan
Universal health care
The minimum wage
Pregnancy and parental Leave
The right to strike
Anti-discrimination rules at work
Overtime pay
Health and safety rules
The 40 hour work week (44 in Ontario thanks to Mike Harris and Wynne)
Worker’s compensation for on-the-job injuries
Employment Insurance
Pensions
Public education!
Collective bargaining rights
Wrongful termination laws
Whistleblower protection laws
Anti- harassment laws
Paid Statutory Days off
One could make the argument that, having achieved all these things (assuming arguendo that the unions really are responsible for all these things), the unions have done their job and done it well. So now, with the job finished, time for them to fold their tent.
 

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One could make the argument that, having achieved all these things (assuming arguendo that the unions really are responsible for all these things), the unions have done their job and done it well. So now, with the job finished, time for them to fold their tent.

Why do you still belong to a lawyer union? And don't tell me you are not associated and represented by your peers.
 

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Who makes laws that protect Non Unionized workers?


How have labour unions benefitted our society? Union activism brought us:

Weekends! Literally. There used to be an expression: "Don't come to work on Sunday, don't come to work on Monday." Meaning, if you took one day off, you were fired.

Provincial and Federal Labour Codes for all workers.
Paid vacations
The 8-hour work day
An end to child labour, so every child could have an education
Rest breaks
Equal pay for equal work for women
Sick leave
Canada Pension Plan
Universal health care
The minimum wage
Pregnancy and parental Leave
The right to strike
Anti-discrimination rules at work
Overtime pay
Health and safety rules
The 40 hour work week (44 in Ontario thanks to Mike Harris and Wynne)
Worker’s compensation for on-the-job injuries
Employment Insurance
Pensions
Public education!
Collective bargaining rights
Wrongful termination laws
Whistleblower protection laws
Anti- harassment laws
Paid Statutory Days off
A lot of that is just fantasy for the average non-union employee
 

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NDP’s New National Director

Robert Fox, welcoming activists, signals his party is steering leftwards.

Robert Fox took over the top administrative job in the party this week, coming to the federal NDP after 10 years as the executive director of Oxfam Canada, and said he plans to “do things differently” following the party’s popularity free fall during last year’s election campaign.

New Democrats lead by Tom Mulcair rapidly started lagging in the polls and lost one million votes and 59 of its 103 seats on election night.

Many analysts and party members blamed a shift to the centre for the election defeat, such as the promise of a balanced budget at a time of economic uncertainty.

The new national director of the New Democrats says he plans to encourage more activist groups to work with the party, and doesn’t believe the controversial Leap Manifesto is a “radical document.”

Fox’s comments signal a likely shift to the left for the federal NDP

UBC political science professor Maxwell Cameron said Fox’s comments signal he may be preparing to pull the party further to the left of the political spectrum.

Cameron said with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals occupying the centre left of the political spectrum, enhancing relations with activists and not shying away from the Leap Manifesto is logical.

It would enable the New Democrats to hold Trudeau accountable from the left on issues like climate change and pipelines.

“The NDP has to go back to a more left-wing orientation,” he said. “There’s no point in trying to persist at being a centrist party at this point.”

Running a populist campaign from the left worked well for U.S. Democrat Bernie Sanders and Cameron said it could work for the NDP in Canada.

He agreed with Fox that proportional representation could render moot the NDP’s need to argue over its soul.

That’s because, Cameron said, it would rid Canadians of the need to vote strategically to keep out parties they don’t support.

It’s just that kind of situation Fox said he hopes the party can take advantage of over the next three years leading into the 2019 election.

He said he is coming to the party to listen and help create a “space to innovate” where the party can try things and even fail at them with plenty of time to prepare for 2019.

But first, Fox said, the party must put the disappointment of 2015 behind it.


Don’t Fear the Leapers! So Says NDP’s New National Director | The Tyee
 

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If the dippers go any farther left they will make the Communist party viable.Then again they are really just a fringe party anyway.
 

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If the NDP really wants a chance at power, it could become a social-democratic party, or more specifically a social-corporatist party.

ONe problem with that in the Canadian context is that it would probably split the NDP with the labourites within the party refusing such a shift towards the centre.

Also, being pro free trade helps win non-Anglo and non-French votes too given that they tend to trade more internatioally than domestically in many cases.
 

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Last week, Tom Mulcair declared that the four pillars of the New Democratic Party were environmentalism, pacifism, feminism and socialism. Gerry Caplan -- who has been a Dipper longer than Mulcair -- writes

I join the applause, or at least three-quarters of it. I can march behind the banner of socialism, feminism and environmentalism with pride and conviction. But pacifism, not so much. In fact pacifism has never been an NDP value, assuming that words have any meaning.

It's true that J.S. Woodsworth, on the eve of World War II stood in the House and declared that he could not support the resolution to go to war because he was a life long pacifist:

But this was not CCF policy and he stood alone. His party revered him enough to allow him to take this idiosyncratic stand, but no other CCF MP joined him. Prime Minister Mackenzie King also generously expressed his deep respect, calling Woodsworth an “ornament to Parliament.”

One can work for peace and not be a pacifist:

Pacifism is not merely a strategy or approach to be applied to a particular crisis. It’s much more: a philosophy or theory, and if you embrace it, it applies in all situations. A great deal has been written on this surprisingly complex subject, including by one writer who explains that “a pacifist rejects war and believes there are no moral grounds which can justify resorting to war. War, for the pacifist, is always wrong.”

As well, in practical terms, for genuine pacifists violence is never the right answer to any crisis, because it always makes things worse.

So its use must always be opposed even when it seems naive or foolish. Hitler and the Second World War are the shorthand examples of this naïveté. You can believe in non-violent resistance to injustice without being a pacifist. And sometimes, force can only be met with force.

And, thus, we have another illustration of Tom Mulcair's problem. For all his talent, he never quite fit in his party.


Why the NDP shouldn’t be pacifists - The Globe and Mail