Brad Wall: A carbon tax is just an 'environmental guilt payment'

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Saskatchewan Premier Brad Wall agrees with Federal Finance Minister Bill Morneau that climate change and economic health aren’t mutually exclusive — but he differs on how to get there.

“Where I would not agree with him is that a carbon tax is somehow inextricably linked to a strong economy. A new tax on things is probably not going to be helpful,” Wall said at a news conference Friday morning.

“We want to have a strong policy in this province to fight climate change. Our position will be that focusing on taxes is probably not the best way to do it, especially if it poses a risk to our economy — to jobs in Saskatchewan.”

Canada is responsible for 1.6 per cent of global carbon emissions, while China and India are building 1,000 coal plants, he said.

Instead of a tax, Wall said he is instead keen on technological innovation, such as the Boundary Dam carbon capture plant, to fight climate change. A white paper on climate change is upcoming, he said.

“Indulgences are not going to deal with the problem here. Paying a sort of environmental guilt payment in the form of a carbon tax isn’t going to get us to the point where we have reduced emissions. Technology will. More renewables will.”

Brad Wall: A carbon tax is just an ‘environmental guilt payment’ | Saskatoon StarPhoenix
 

mentalfloss

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He's just salty about being in deficit and getting jack from the feds.
 

mentalfloss

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Why would I be salty about him having no authority over Trudeau.

This is great!

12 more years!
 

petros

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He is already heading to Supreme Court of Canada to put the brakes on a Fed Carbon tax.


This will be fun to watch.

"We would constitutionally challenge any attempt by a federal government to impose a tax on, for example, a government Crown [corporation] like SaskPower or SaskEnergy," he told host Rosemary Barton. "This does not come in to play with the private sector, but it does with respect to government entities, we believe. And we would challenge it."
 
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He is already heading to Supreme Court of Canada to put the brakes on a Fed Carbon tax.


This will be fun to watch.

"We would constitutionally challenge any attempt by a federal government to impose a tax on, for example, a government Crown [corporation] like SaskPower or SaskEnergy," he told host Rosemary Barton. "This does not come in to play with the private sector, but it does with respect to government entities, we believe. And we would challenge it."

Yea, I laughed when I saw that too.
 

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Guilt trip tax! Cheers petro

Think electricity is expensive now? Wait till you get your guilt trip fee
 

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Trudeau pledged 2.65 billions to help out developing countries fight climate change. That bring our contribution to 4 Billions now. A big huge waste i ask! , since China and India were getting the large majority of our money, all whilst they are opening 1,000 coal plants. I agree that we need to pay our share, but there has to be a better way than giving it to areas that simply are decades away from caring about climate change, we are so gullible is it sickening. Why not invest in Canada's Atmospheric Science and Technology Directorate who would have used 100% of those Billions to study and make recommendation on climate.
 

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Trudeau pledged 2.65 billions to help out developing countries fight climate change. That bring our contribution to 4 Billions now. A big huge waste i ask! , since China and India were getting the large majority of our money, all whilst they are opening 1,000 coal plants. I agree that we need to pay our share, but there has to be a better way than giving it to areas that simply are decades away from caring about climate change, we are so gullible is it sickening. Why not invest in Canada's Atmospheric Science and Technology Directorate who would have used 100% of those Billions to study and make recommendation on climate.
Yup and they don't care that the Chinese are burning coal from Alberta and B.C. . Coal that travels on 150 car rail trains through the Fraser Canyon and the Adams river sockeye run ,out to Roberts Bank terminal .
We are cutting emissions don't you know .
 

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Yup and they don't care that the Chinese are burning coal from Alberta and B.C. . Coal that travels on 150 car rail trains through the Fraser Canyon and the Adams river sockeye run ,out to Roberts Bank terminal .
We are cutting emissions don't you know .

Pay no mind to the man behind the curtain!
 

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Canada is actually a huge carbon sink. We should be getting revenue from the rest of the world, not paying some stupid slush-fund contribution.

And for gawds sake....can one of you nut-bars that supports this sh^t point out just when in the last 4 billion years the climate wasn't changing
 

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Canada is actually a huge carbon sink. We should be getting revenue from the rest of the world, not paying some stupid slush-fund contribution.

And for gawds sake....can one of you nut-bars that supports this sh^t point out just when in the last 4 billion years the climate wasn't changing

That is an excellent point!!! Our fast growing crops that have to mature in
a short growing season must suck up that evil carbon that all (almost) life
on earth is based on......& we have some tree's too.

 

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Brad Wall's latest excuse for climate obstructionism, what if The Donald wins?

Ottawa had not promised to meet with the premiers before ratifying the agreement, but the provinces had expected to be consulted first.

A senior government official said Mr. Trudeau wants to bring the Paris agreement to the House of Commons for a vote quickly, with the aim of submitting it at the UN summit on climate change in Morocco Nov. 7-18.

“The bottom line is this: This government has already committed Canada to the accord that it signed in Paris. The government is of the view that the ratification would occur before the premiers meeting,” the official told The Globe.

Another senior official said Canada had been under pressure from United Nations Secretary General Ban Ki Moon to ratify before the U.S. presidential election on Nov. 8.

Saskatchewan Premier slams Ottawa's plan to ratify Paris climate pact - The Globe and Mail


The federal government has indicated it wants a ratification vote on the Paris climate pact sometime in the next week or two. With the U.S. and China already on side, Trudeau/McKenna don't want to show up at the next summit, in Morocco, with empty hands.

Brad Wall, is furious. How dare the federal government exercise its power to make and ratify treaties without Brad's say so? With a population of 1.13 million, Saskatchewan is less than a fifth the size of greater Toronto. Maybe it doesn't exactly deserve a veto.

That said, ratification of the Paris climate pact doesn't mean much. It's essentially saying, "I promise to do better." And if you don't?

Well, nothing really.

There is no binding enforcement mechanism in the deal and no such thing on the horizon either. We just have to take it on faith that the major emitters, Canada included, will voluntarily begin to slash their greenhouse gas emissions just as soon as they get the go-ahead from the United Nations. You can also take it on faith that the cheque for that 50 bucks you loaned me is indeed in the mail. I mean it. I oughta know, right?

Then there's the bottomless well of cognitive dissonance also known as the Trudeau government. Don't forget that it was Trudeau who assured Canadians that ramping up production and export of the highest carbon ersatz oil, bitumen, would give the feds the money they need to slash emissions. Huh?

And who can forget our freshly minted environment minister, Dame Catherine McKenna, flush from her triumphant campaign in Paris last December, who, on meeting Alberta's enviro minister promptly curled up into a fetal ball, bleating "national unity, national unity."

Ratification of the Paris climate pact will be as meaningful or meaningless as Justin Trudeau chooses. Unfortunately, every time he's come up against a tough issue he's turned all wobbly and folded. He's done the easy stuff, the low hanging fruit, brilliantly, and he's a virtuoso of the photo op, but I think the western premiers have the measure of Justin and they're ready to give him a mauling.
 

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Canute was a very wise King; his “media” stunt was to disabuse his advisers that he was not Devine, but a man who has NO control over his environment....
...That tide of solar warmth is now receding, yet billions continue to be wasted on the vocal green minorities with their vested interests which have to be put first at the expense of the West’s workers and the third world’s industrialization to raise them out of poverty and subsistence farming...."
https://iceagenow.info/without-energy-economy-stops-dead/#more-18777
https://iceagenow.info/

"How are Gore’s predictions holding up?
Ten years ago, the Goracle told an AP reporter during the 2006 premier of his “An Inconvenient Truth” science fiction horror movie, “unless drastic measures to reduce greenhouse gases are taken within the next ten years, the world will reach a point of no return.”Yet despite “record high” atmospheric CO2 concentrations, other than entirely natural 1998 and 2015 El Nino ocean spikes, satellites have recorded no statistically significant global warming in nearly two decades.
https://iceagenow.info/gores-predictions-holding/

The carbone tax is the global money elite getting everyone by the balls
next, it will be blasphemers and witch burnings

quilt tax?
guilt..like going to the confessional...paying your absolvances to the church, a sin tax...
and then going right back out to bone twice as many little boys in the back seat of the car

google green economies success
here is the top link:
http://www.unep.org/pdf/GreenEconomy_SuccessStories.pdf
note the date 2010
also the so called successes ( suc cess, alright )

google green economies failure
"Thesis 1: The strict decoupling of economic growth and environmentaldestruction is not possible under capitalism
http://social-ecology.org/wp/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/Theses-on-Green-Econ.pdf
 
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We need recall legislation federally. When people that voted for trudOWE finally wake up to what they voted for there is going to be a huge backlash.