Bring back the death penalty.

[Machjo]

Teen who died in Starbucks washroom needed rehab but mom says she couldn't afford it - British Columbia - CBC News

I can see at least two cases where the death penalty should be the default with the judge having the discretion to grant life: murder and arson.

I can see at least one case where death should not be the default but the judge has discretion on the matter: drug trafficking.

If you sell a narcotic and it causes a user's death, there should exist at least the possibility of facing the firing squad. I'm not saying judges should abuse this power, but even just having it could serve as a deterrent for some.

How can a person sell a narcotic when fully aware of its addictive and other destructive properties?

 

[taxslave]

Did anyone hold a gun to her head and force her to take the drugs? People have to be held responsible for their actions not look for someone else to blame.

 

[Machjo]

Did anyone hold a gun to her head and force her to take the drugs? People have to be held responsible for their actions not look for someone else to blame.

So should I be allowed to get a heroin-vending licence? I've got the marketing plan down already. Give it out for free at parties till everyone's hooked and then build my client base from there. Besides, what they do with it is their problem, not mine, right?

 

[taxslave]

So should I be allowed to get a heroin-vending licence? I've got the marketing plan down already. Give it out for free at parties till everyone's hooked and then build my client base from there. Besides, what they do with it is their problem, not mine, right?

No license required. And yes it is their problem. Certainly not mine. It is impossible for anyone today not to know the dangers of drug use.

 

[Blackleaf]

Hanging should be brought back for anyone who murders children and police officers and anyone who commits treason against the country and/or Monarch.

 

[TenPenny]

The only place where the death penalty is appropriate is sexual abuse of children.

 

[Machjo]

No license required. And yes it is their problem. Certainly not mine. It is impossible for anyone today not to know the dangers of drug use.

According to Statistics Canada, close to 50% of Canadians between the ages of 16 and 65 is functionally literate in neither official language.

Okay, that could include drug dealers too. Maybe a first offence could simply require drug school to make him aware of how harmful these drugs are, but a second offence should set him as an example to others.

Also, consider peer pressure in teenage years. And adults suffering depression, etc. To say we should be free to sell narcotics at the checkout counter at the grocery store is ridiculous. China after the opium wars gives a clear example of what happens once it's legalized (albeit imposed by a foreign power with military backing in China's case). Opium addiction had reached epidemic proportions.

 

[Blackleaf]

The only place where the death penalty is appropriate is sexual abuse of children.

But if someone murders a child instead they should merely be imprisoned rather than executed?

 

[Machjo]

The only place where the death penalty is appropriate is sexual abuse of children.

Thanks for reminding me. I forgot about that.

However I will be sympathetic to a degree. Research has shown that child abusers were often abused themselves. In fact child abuse ran rampant on one Canadian Indian reserve a few years ago (I forget which one though). In that case, women could be perpetrators as well as men and it turned out many if them had been abused too.

I imagine such a person might also suffer other mental abnormalities too. That's why I do support ISPs making online porn and advertisements to seek out sexual partners, and prostitution sites opt-in only with the person opting in being able to prove that he is eighteen years of age.

We can't make adult content freely available to children online on the one hand, and then expect children to develop healthy sexuality as adults on the other.

Maybe even redirect blocked sites to educational advertising pertaining to sex addiction to help them.

Maybe even have a law requiring public schools inform any applicant who wants to teach there of 12-step groups and other help that is available to sex addicts of any kind, pedophiles especially. Since the school won't know who might have a problem, it should just inform applicants and the applicant does what he wants with the info, but at least if it can help him, we know he knows about it.

The way I look at it is this. If I have a choice between a pedophile school teacher teaching my child and I never know about his problem because someone thought him where to look for help before he ever hurt anyone, or I'm spared a pedophile school reacher teaching my child becausevhe was caught and arrested the previous year for having hurt someone, I'd rather the former. It's better to never know he's a pedophiles because he got help and never hurt anyone and might never do so than to know because he hurt someone already.

Of course programmes to help the poor to find work could help keep a person out of the drug trade or sex, procurement, smuggling, or trafficking industries. Educational advertising could direct sex addicts of various kinds, pedophiles included, towards help before they rape an adult or child or kill him.

Though I can agree with the death penalty for a pedophiles, I think it's even more important to help him to not hurt anyone in the first place, otherwise it's like cheating him in so we can punish him after, and that would defeat the whole point of it.

 

[Jinentonix]

Teen who died in Starbucks washroom needed rehab but mom says she couldn't afford it - British Columbia - CBC News

I can see at least two cases where the death penalty should be the default with the judge having the discretion to grant life: murder and arson.

I can see at least one case where death should not be the default but the judge has discretion on the matter: drug trafficking.

If you sell a narcotic and it causes a user's death, there should exist at least the possibility of facing the firing squad. I'm not saying judges should abuse this power, but even just having it could serve as a deterrent for some.

How can a person sell a narcotic when fully aware of its addictive and other destructive properties?

You mean like the govt and alcohol?

 

[Blackleaf]

In Britain it was once a capital offence to go outside at night with a blackened face, impersonating a Chelsea Pensioner, cutting down a young tree, for being an unmarried mother who has concealed a stillborn child, stealing from a rabbit warren, and damaging Westminster Bridge.

No messing about in those days.

 

[Machjo]

You mean like the govt and alcohol?

The government selling alcohol and then providing public health care. Ironic. Same with the government selling lottery tickets and then funding mental health services.

 

[IdRatherBeSkiing]

Buyer beware.

 

[Machjo]

Buyer beware.

Even of the government. Ironic.

 

[JLM]

Teen who died in Starbucks washroom needed rehab but mom says she couldn't afford it - British Columbia - CBC News

I can see at least two cases where the death penalty should be the default with the judge having the discretion to grant life: murder and arson.

I can see at least one case where death should not be the default but the judge has discretion on the matter: drug trafficking.

If you sell a narcotic and it causes a user's death, there should exist at least the possibility of facing the firing squad. I'm not saying judges should abuse this power, but even just having it could serve as a deterrent for some.

How can a person sell a narcotic when fully aware of its addictive and other destructive properties?

In my books, if you cause someone's death through greed, then it's first degree murder plain and simple as you've formulated the plan after considerable time to enact the details.

In Britain it was once a capital offence to go outside at night with a blackened face, impersonating a Chelsea Pensioner, cutting down a young tree, for being an unmarried mother who has concealed a stillborn child, stealing from a rabbit warren, and damaging Westminster Bridge.

No messing about in those days.

There's just no telling what hare brained laws Blighters are likely to pass!

 

[Topkek]

Bring back labour camps and hard labour as punishment. Make criminals work until their arms fall off. It's cheap labour and at least the country would benefit from improved infrastructure and maintenance.

 

[Jinentonix]

The government selling alcohol and then providing public health care.

In Ontario the govt introduced a health care premium at least a decade ago that has nothing to do with alcohol sales.

Ironic. Same with the government selling lottery tickets and then funding mental health services.

Oh I see. So it's ok to make money off of people's misery and addictions, as long as it's for official purposes. How many people in Canada have died because of alcohol?

As per your claims, you put a lot of faith in govt. For example, when Ontario's first casino went into operation it hauled in about $500 million in the first 6-8 months of operation. The govt spent a whole $1 million on programs and commercials for gambling addiction. And based on how badly Ontario has gutted mental health care over the last decade or so, I doubt very much, if any, lottery ticket money is funding mental health care in Ontario.

 

[JLM]

Bring back labour camps and hard labour as punishment. Make criminals work until their arms fall off. It's cheap labour and at least the country would benefit from improved infrastructure and maintenance.

Not only that but rigorous exercise is conducive to good health.

 

[Machjo]

In Ontario the govt introduced a health care premium at least a decade ago that has nothing to do with alcohol sales.
Oh I see. So it's ok to make money off of people's misery and addictions, as long as it's for official purposes. How many people in Canada have died because of alcohol?

As per your claims, you put a lot of faith in govt. For example, when Ontario's first casino went into operation it hauled in about $500 million in the first 6-8 months of operation. The govt spent a whole $1 million on programs and commercials for gambling addiction. And based on how badly Ontario has gutted mental health care over the last decade or so, I doubt very much, if any, lottery ticket money is funding mental health care in Ontario.

I was being sarcastic. Government has no business in the alcohol,gambling, or any other such industry. It's a conflict of interest.

Not only that but rigorous exercise is conducive to good health.

It makes time go faster too and provides work experience and skills training for when they get out.

 

[JLM]

I was being sarcastic. Government has no business in the alcohol,gambling, or any other such industry. It's a conflict of interest.

That's one opinion............................YOURS! How about imposing fines for breech of laws?

How many people in Canada have died because of alcohol?

Thousands?