Mexican President calls for ‘economic integration’ of North America

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Mexican President Enrique Pena Nieto arrived in Canada Monday for an official state visit, using his first remarks to call for the “economic integration” of North America.

Governor-General David Johnston welcomed the Mexican leader at the historic Citadelle in Quebec City as Mr. Nieto begins two days of bilateral talks with Prime Minister Justin Trudeau, the premiers of Quebec and Ontario as well as business leaders in advance of Wednesday’s summit of the North American leaders that will include U.S. President Barack Obama.

“Canadians and Mexicans alike share values and development goals and we also share a single vision of the world we want,” Mr. Nieto said. “Let us take stock of our affinity and agreement to bolster innovation and environmental sustainability and also to foster the economic integration of North America.”

During their bilateral talks, officials say Mr. Trudeau and Mr. Nieto will remind North Americans “how lucky we are to be where we are … and we are a lot more successful when we tackle shared problems together rather than put up walls.”

The three leaders of North America will trumpet the benefits of liberalized free trade and the necessity of countries to work in unison when they gather in Ottawa for a summit that had been set up largely to focus on the environment but has been turned upside down by the stunning British vote to exit the European Union.

But the shocking British vote to secede from the EU has forced the leaders to reassess the game plan and put a greater emphasis on free trade when they gather for the one-day summit to be held at the National Gallery of Canada in Ottawa.

A Mexican official noted that both countries teamed up to fight U.S. action, through the World Trade Organization, on country-of-origin labelling for meat products, as well as an attempt by the United States during the Trans-Pacific Partnership negotiations to allow Japanese vehicles to be imported tariff-free to North America, with just 30-per-cent content. Canada and Mexico forced the cap up to 45 per cent. It is currently 62.5 per cent.

“The protectionist fires are starting to blow, whether we are talking about Hillary Clinton and her opposition to TPP or Donald Trump, who is anti-everything and wants to build a wall between Mexico. We are going to need allies to try and fend off these protectionist winds,” Colin Robertson, vice-president of the Canadian Global Affairs Institute, said in an interview. “Working with Mexico on country of origin and the TPP, we were able to push back – but especially on country of origin, which is basically a protectionist measure. By both threatening retaliatory action, Congress folded. On our own, we would not have been successful.”

In Canada, Mexican President calls for ‘economic integration’ of North America - The Globe and Mail
 

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For something to be good for a trainwreck like Mexico then it has to be bad for everyone else
So unless they are going to vote full auto right accross the board I say
VOTE NO!!!

Oh wait:
this is something cororate signed by both Martin AND Harper - NO VOTE about it!
skip the soapbox
Something tells me we should head straight for the leg irons and the gun rack
 

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If hillary continues to have light shone upon her gaffs and miscalculations on the international stage trump may pull off a default victory and if he does the 3 amigos photo op pow wow won't amount to a hill of beans. Trumps new strategists really overcooked his last speech, he presents much better off the cuff than reading from teleprompters, so much scripted emotionless rhetoric it almost sounded like queens park.
Hillary remains his biggest asset and the benghazi(version?) report released rather close to the election was of course pure coincidence. Trey gowdy urges folks to read the report and draw their own conclusion(s) which won't hurt trump but will tax clinton's spin doctors.

 

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A North American Union would be good for Canada because they want our renewable energy.

We should also have a unified currency.

I'd call it the Namerico.
 

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A North American Union would be good for Canada because they want our renewable energy.
...and they will have no problems sending up some mexicans to dig it up, process it, and ship it home...
just like they do with their American welfare checks now

We should also have a unified currency.I'd call it the Namerico.
you forgot to include the words greece, brexit , and negative interest

Harper was for a north American union:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=QudcSXE_n9U
While no one was looking or voting he signed the papers
in stealth mode years ago.
Just like the way the EU just had its 50th year celebrations
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6490437.stm
 
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You are confusing a union with free trade.

This would be a properly negotiated treaty, like the Lisbon one.
 

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A North American Union would be good for Canada because they want our renewable energy.

We should also have a unified currency.

I'd call it the Namerico.

If it isn't made with silver or gold or is reactive, it's not going to be worth squat. If they need our renewable energy they will simply steal it.
 

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That's why you negotiate trade deals under the banner of a union instead of free trade.

At least then you know it's your fault if it was a bad deal.
 

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You are confusing a union with free trade.

This would be a properly negotiated treaty, like the Lisbon one.

no I am not:
both Martin and Harper, in corporate stealth mode, were discovered to have signed the paperwork on a NORTH AMERICAN UNION or SPP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_Prosperity_Partnership_of_North_America

"The Partnership was founded in Waco, Texas, on March 23, 2005, by Prime Minister of Canada Paul Martin, President of Mexico Vicente Fox, and U.S. President George W. Bush"

"On February 4, 2011, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and U.S. President Barack Obama announced a new security and prosperity initiative with plans to "pursue a perimeter approach to security in ways that support economic competitiveness, job creation, and prosperity"

thats why I mentioned the 50 years of the EU
nobody in the real world who VOTES realized that it was 50 years old
 

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no I am not:
both Martin and Harper, in corporate stealth mode, were discovered to have signed the paperwork on a NORTH AMERICAN UNION or SPP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_and_Prosperity_Partnership_of_North_America

"The Partnership was founded in Waco, Texas, on March 23, 2005, by Prime Minister of Canada Paul Martin, President of Mexico Vicente Fox, and U.S. President George W. Bush"

"On February 4, 2011, Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper and U.S. President Barack Obama announced a new security and prosperity initiative with plans to "pursue a perimeter approach to security in ways that support economic competitiveness, job creation, and prosperity"

thats why I mentioned the 50 years of the EU
nobody in the real world who VOTES realized that it was 50 years old
Wonderful information. Praise the lawd, amen
 

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Ludblow is one of the ten stupidest posters who has ever shown up at CCC. I thought we were under an protective filter. Wher is Andem? Why can't this contagion be contained in some bottle or orther?

An atipical American? Not at all most of them are sound of mind, this one is not, and should be discontinued, before it wastes more money.

We certainly couldn't trust it to care for vegetables.

Sure the novelty is entertaining but it too inefficient to propogate, what with it's cerebral deficiet, we would lose money, best to shut off the nutriants now

Yes it has a nice blossom but it's nuts are underweight.
 

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Ludblow is one of the ten stupidest posters who has ever shown up at CCC. I thought we were under an protective filter. Wher is Andem? Why can't this contagion be contained in some bottle or orther?

An atipical American? Not at all most of them are sound of mind, this one is not, and should be discontinued, before it wastes more money.

We certainly couldn't trust it to care for vegetables.

Sure the novelty is entertaining but it too inefficient to propogate, what with it's cerebral deficiet, we would lose money, best to shut off the nutriants now

Yes it has a nice blossom but it's nuts are underweight.
ah shet ye festering gum flapper Darkbungchute. Try and make sense once in your fookin life and maybe you'll get an appropriate response. Stupidity begats stupidity. Wake up, sober and be a man. :).
 

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sounds like a good Idea
how do we hook up all the stink pipes?
some one will have to climb up on the roofs
 

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If hillary continues to have light shone upon her gaffs and miscalculations on the international stage trump may pull off a default victory and if he does the 3 amigos photo op pow wow won't amount to a hill of beans. Trumps new strategists really overcooked his last speech, he presents much better off the cuff than reading from teleprompters, so much scripted emotionless rhetoric it almost sounded like queens park.
Hillary remains his biggest asset and the benghazi(version?) report released rather close to the election was of course pure coincidence. Trey gowdy urges folks to read the report and draw their own conclusion(s) which won't hurt trump but will tax clinton's spin doctors.


We can only hope Trump would not change his view on this if he got elected. Hillary doesn't even enter into the equation and will come up with some bs to support the TPP. Bernie has voted against every Free Trade deal but unless Hillary can be shamed enough in time to resign or gets charged by someone, Bernie will not be running for the DNC......

In his speech to Parliament on Wednesday, Barack Obama called for a version of globalization where the benefits accrued to all, not just the top one percent. A consummation devoutly to be wished. But, Tom Walkom writes, it may be too late to make it happen:

Indeed, the best Obama could come up with as a model for humane globalization was the deeply flawed Trans-Pacific Partnership trade and investment deal. Yet it is so unpopular in the U.S. that even Hillary Clinton, Obama’s ally and presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, has vowed to deep-six it.

The TPP is unpopular for good reasons. Many Americans (and Canadians) don’t want to lose their jobs to workers in low-wage Pacific Rim countries like Vietnam.

Given their experience with the North American Free Trade Agreement, Americans are justly suspicious of politicians who promise that these losses will be more than compensated for by new jobs at home.

And so they are fighting back through antiglobalization politicians, such as Trump and would-be Democratic presidential nominee Bernie Sanders.

Bucking the trend is nothing new:

In 19th century Canada, it found expression through John A. Macdonald’s National Policy of protective tariffs.
The new Dominion of Canada was losing population as workers migrated to the U.S. in search of jobs.
Macdonald’s break from British free-trade orthodoxy was designed to create the jobs that would keep them at home.

A few decades later, in the 1930s, governments around the world used the power of the state to resist the logic of a market capitalism that had depressed wages, prices and jobs.

In some countries, notably Germany and Italy, this resistance was commandeered by racists and fascists.
In others, it was not. U.S. President Franklin Delano Roosevelt’s New Deal, a direct challenge to the prevailing economic orthodoxy, led not to fascism but to projects such as the Tennessee Valley Authority electrification scheme.

During the ’40s and ’50s, the battleground moved to the shop floor as North America’s new industrial unions challenged an orthodoxy that said only markets could determine wage rates. All of which is to say that this tension over the market economy never goes away.

And so, once again, we find ourselves in a place where governments -- the latest being the UK's -- are rejecting the conventional wisdom of the day. On Wednesday, Obama spoke in support of the conventional wisdom.

But, in spite of the good will he generated on Parliament Hill this week, the train may have already left the station.

https://www.thestar.com/opinion/com...ane-globalization-may-be-too-late-walkom.html