Trudeau’s whiners

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No political party has ever been more sanctimonious or hypocritical than the Liberals

If there’s one thing that’s hard to take from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals — Canada’s natural governing party, as they prefer to call themselves — it’s their perpetual self-righteousness and hypocrisy.

We saw it on display again this month while Trudeau was making multiple apologies (three, actually) for acting like a bully in the House of Commons, grabbing one opposition MP by the arm and elbowing another in the chest (accidentally, he says) while, according to witnesses, muttering “get the f--- out of my way”.

At the same time, Liberals and their apologists were expressing shock, consternation and outrage about the NDP’s childish attempt to block Conservative whip Gord Brown from taking his seat in the Commons, to delay a parliamentary vote, the incident that set off Trudeau.

Excuse us? The Liberal party with its decades-long record of asinine and obstructive behaviour in Parliament, is now lecturing the NDP (and Conservatives) about having respect for the people’s business?

The party that blew kazoos in the Senate to impede the passage of the GST law in a campaign orchestrated by then Liberal Senate leader Allan MacEachen, that also included, according to a December, 1990 Associated Press account, “hooting, catcalls, shouting ... interminable reading of petitions name by name and other delaying measures”?

The party that took pride in its Liberal Rat Pack after it was reduced to 40 seats in the 1984 election -- Sheila Copps, Don Boudria, Brian Tobin and John Nunziata -- who, when they weren’t hurling abuse at Brian Mulroney and his cabinet ministers, were treated with friendly indulgence by the media for creating bedlam in the House of Commons?

Liberal parliamentary decorum? Liberal parliamentary etiquette? Please. Give us a break.

Has everyone forgotten Sheila Copps — future Liberal deputy prime minister — hurling herself across a desk at a parliamentary committee meeting to confront Tory cabinet minister Sinclair Stevens?

As Tobin put it in his 2002 autobiography, All in Good Time, of the Rat Pack: “If we had to make noise ... we would. If we had to flirt with being obnoxious at times . . . well, anyone who thinks politics is a ladies’ and gentlemen’s game has never been deeply involved in the process.” (Source, Jane Taber, Globe and Mail, May 5, 2006).

The issue isn’t that the Liberals are different from the Conservatives and NDP when it comes to disrespecting Parliament. It’s that they’re exactly the same.

But when it comes to hypocrisy, when it comes to crying “SHAME! SHAME!” in accusing the opposition of doing exactly the same things they’ve done, the Liberals have no peers. Or shame.

Trudeau can prattle on about Liberal “sunny ways” all he likes. That is, when he isn’t calling Conservative Peter Kent a “piece of s---” in the House of Commons, as he did while third party leader and for which he had to apologize.

It doesn’t change the fact no party in Parliament more frequently or more tiresomely accuses others of doing exactly what it does.
Simply put, nobody whines like the Liberals.


Trudeau’s whiners | Goldstein | Canada | News | Toronto Sun
 

Decapoda

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But... but, Trudeau promised to govern differently.

I notice there wasn't a great deal of time or focus given to explaining the ins and outs of motion 6 prior to it being yanked from the order paper by the Liberals. I'm sure the intent and purpose of such a motion could only be furthering a nuturing of respect for opposition voices in the house, and that it was simply misunderstood by all but our great leader and the liberal party.
 

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Another 30 months to go. This is a funny topic already, I can only imagine the amount of hair that will be pulled out by the rootes between now and then.
 

gerryh

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Ah, yes...liberal hypocricy is justified because...conservatives.

Hope and change!



ROFLMFAO... what's hilarious, is the amount of whining that is going on. The amount of people, like yourself, throwing the "hypocrisy" word out there. As if this is a new thing with ANY political party. Nobody is "justifying" anything. Just pointing out the whining of the losers. The same thing happened when the Conservatives won. Same shyte, different pile, and yet, there are idiots like yourself that try to make this all out to be somehow different. ROFLMFAO.... what a maroon.
 

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Unless you're a conservative pundit, then you outshine the libs, hands down, when it comes to whining.
Not...even...close.


Let's look at Ontario for example. Back when the LPO was the Opposition, they screamed blue bloody murder about what a wretchedly horrible idea selling off Hydro One would be. Even brought out the experts to show how bad things could get and the PCs backed off. Meanwhile the hypocritical, forked-tongued Libtards already had their OWN plans to sell of Hydro One if/when they got elected but didn't tell anyone during all those election campaigns. And now, here we are with some of the highest hydro rates in the world, all so the new Hydro One shareholders will profit nicely.
Liberals scream about Conservative corporate cronyism but don't seem to have any problem with the Wynned sock handing Samsung $1.5 billion of OUR dollars that the province was under NO legal or moral obligation to pay.


Liberals whine about bullying and violence but are only to happy to engage in either when they don't get their way. As amply demonstrated by our "illustrious" PM.
They send our soldiers to A-stan and then whine about Harper extending the mission.
They bitched about the F-35 procurement process while ignoring the half billion dollars Chretien sent to the US to "aid" in the development of the program.


They banned organized prayer in our public schools, you know separation of Church and State and all that, yet permit Islamic religious instruction within our public schools during school hours.


Tell me, if it's 2016 why do we still insist on protecting and entertaining people's idiotic, stone-age superstitions? Why do we insist on giving special protection to childish, simplistic beliefs when those beliefs are the cause of so much hate and violence? Keep in mind I'm not singling out just the Muslims on that one. The whackjob Talibaptists in the US are pretty f*cked up too.
 

gerryh

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Not...even...close.


Let's look at Ontario for example. Back when the LPO was the Opposition, they screamed blue bloody murder about what a wretchedly horrible idea selling off Hydro One would be. Even brought out the experts to show how bad things could get and the PCs backed off. Meanwhile the hypocritical, forked-tongued Libtards already had their OWN plans to sell of Hydro One if/when they got elected but didn't tell anyone during all those election campaigns. And now, here we are with some of the highest hydro rates in the world, all so the new Hydro One shareholders will profit nicely.
Liberals scream about Conservative corporate cronyism but don't seem to have any problem with the Wynned sock handing Samsung $1.5 billion of OUR dollars that the province was under NO legal or moral obligation to pay.


Liberals whine about bullying and violence but are only to happy to engage in either when they don't get their way. As amply demonstrated by our "illustrious" PM.
They send our soldiers to A-stan and then whine about Harper extending the mission.
They bitched about the F-35 procurement process while ignoring the half billion dollars Chretien sent to the US to "aid" in the development of the program.


They banned organized prayer in our public schools, you know separation of Church and State and all that, yet permit Islamic religious instruction within our public schools during school hours.


Tell me, if it's 2016 why do we still insist on protecting and entertaining people's idiotic, stone-age superstitions? Why do we insist on giving special protection to childish, simplistic beliefs when those beliefs are the cause of so much hate and violence? Keep in mind I'm not singling out just the Muslims on that one. The whackjob Talibaptists in the US are pretty f*cked up too.



Thank you for making my point. Much appreciated. Continue with your whine..... oh, and did you want cheese with that?
 

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Nobody is "justifying" anything. Just pointing out the whining of the losers.

The truth, is that every living thing self justifies itself and his actions when they are the ones who make the decisions. And everyone whines when they are the loser and arn't in the position to make the decision. Everyone is the same when they are in their respective winning/losing relative position.

That's a big intellectual hurdle to cross. Most people don't have that kind of intellectual capacity.
 

Decapoda

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ROFLMFAO... what's hilarious, is the amount of whining that is going on. The amount of people, like yourself, throwing the "hypocrisy" word out there. As if this is a new thing with ANY political party. Nobody is "justifying" anything. Just pointing out the whining of the losers. The same thing happened when the Conservatives won. Same shyte, different pile, and yet, there are idiots like yourself that try to make this all out to be somehow different. ROFLMFAO.... what a maroon.

Strike a nerve? I understand, we're all a bit disappointed in the underwhelming performance and "business as usual" approach taken so far by junior. He is working on attaining a healthy work-life balance so that's something. Kudos to him for such vision.
 

gerryh

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Strike a nerve? I understand, we're all a bit disappointed in the underwhelming performance and "business as usual" approach taken so far by junior. He is working on attaining a healthy work-life balance so that's something. Kudos to him for such vision.


Why do you think you would have "struck a nerve"? I didn't vote for the Libs this time around because of Trudeau, and I won't be voting for the Libs as long as he is leader. I'm just pointing out the oh so very obvious to the less intelligent, like yourself.
 

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No political party has ever been more sanctimonious or hypocritical than the Liberals

If there’s one thing that’s hard to take from Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and the Liberals — Canada’s natural governing party, as they prefer to call themselves — it’s their perpetual self-righteousness and hypocrisy.

We saw it on display again this month while Trudeau was making multiple apologies (three, actually) for acting like a bully in the House of Commons, grabbing one opposition MP by the arm and elbowing another in the chest (accidentally, he says) while, according to witnesses, muttering “get the f--- out of my way”.

At the same time, Liberals and their apologists were expressing shock, consternation and outrage about the NDP’s childish attempt to block Conservative whip Gord Brown from taking his seat in the Commons, to delay a parliamentary vote, the incident that set off Trudeau.

Excuse us? The Liberal party with its decades-long record of asinine and obstructive behaviour in Parliament, is now lecturing the NDP (and Conservatives) about having respect for the people’s business?

The party that blew kazoos in the Senate to impede the passage of the GST law in a campaign orchestrated by then Liberal Senate leader Allan MacEachen, that also included, according to a December, 1990 Associated Press account, “hooting, catcalls, shouting ... interminable reading of petitions name by name and other delaying measures”?

The party that took pride in its Liberal Rat Pack after it was reduced to 40 seats in the 1984 election -- Sheila Copps, Don Boudria, Brian Tobin and John Nunziata -- who, when they weren’t hurling abuse at Brian Mulroney and his cabinet ministers, were treated with friendly indulgence by the media for creating bedlam in the House of Commons?

Liberal parliamentary decorum? Liberal parliamentary etiquette? Please. Give us a break.

Has everyone forgotten Sheila Copps — future Liberal deputy prime minister — hurling herself across a desk at a parliamentary committee meeting to confront Tory cabinet minister Sinclair Stevens?

As Tobin put it in his 2002 autobiography, All in Good Time, of the Rat Pack: “If we had to make noise ... we would. If we had to flirt with being obnoxious at times . . . well, anyone who thinks politics is a ladies’ and gentlemen’s game has never been deeply involved in the process.” (Source, Jane Taber, Globe and Mail, May 5, 2006).

The issue isn’t that the Liberals are different from the Conservatives and NDP when it comes to disrespecting Parliament. It’s that they’re exactly the same.

But when it comes to hypocrisy, when it comes to crying “SHAME! SHAME!” in accusing the opposition of doing exactly the same things they’ve done, the Liberals have no peers. Or shame.

Trudeau can prattle on about Liberal “sunny ways” all he likes. That is, when he isn’t calling Conservative Peter Kent a “piece of s---” in the House of Commons, as he did while third party leader and for which he had to apologize.

It doesn’t change the fact no party in Parliament more frequently or more tiresomely accuses others of doing exactly what it does.
Simply put, nobody whines like the Liberals.


Trudeau’s whiners | Goldstein | Canada | News | Toronto Sun

Honestly, I hate the NDP so much, I just wanted to use the situation to make the NDP look like idiots :lol:
 

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