Conservative Senators Salty on Duffys Return

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Could it ever have been different? The salt, it runs in their veins.
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In their tears Cliffy. :lol:
The salt is in their tears.
 
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It figures the libtards would want to give somebody who hasn't worked a day in the last year or so full pay. Of course, he is/was a senator so I suppose the actual work done wouldn't be much different that when he was suspended.
 
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Why is it everyone, lefties included wanted to see Duffy roasted on a spit, until there became some political advantage? Now he's a hero. He ripped you off you bunch of dummies. So did Pam Wallin. So did Patrick Brazeau. The senate has a real problem, but now Duffy who clearly knew he was milking our wallets is the exiled set free?

You folks do realize that you can still blame Harper and think Duffy's a cheat, the two are not mutually exclusive?
 
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Retired_Can_Soldier said:
Why is it everyone, lefties included wanted to see Duffy roasted on a spit, until there became some political advantage? Now he's a hero. He ripped you off you bunch of dummies. So did Pam Wallin. So did Patrick Brazeau. The senate has a real problem, but now Duffy who clearly knew he was milking our wallets is the exiled set free?

You folks do realize that you can still blame Harper and think Duffy's a cheat, the two are not mutually exclusive?
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That would require a stronger intellectual capacity then what 90% of our current population possess. We can argue, that it is the dumb who benefit from their lowered intellectual capacity the most, because of blissful ignorance.
 
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Retired_Can_Soldier said:
Why is it everyone, lefties included wanted to see Duffy roasted on a spit, until there became some political advantage? Now he's a hero. He ripped you off you bunch of dummies. So did Pam Wallin. So did Patrick Brazeau. The senate has a real problem, but now Duffy who clearly knew he was milking our wallets is the exiled set free?

You folks do realize that you can still blame Harper and think Duffy's a cheat, the two are not mutually exclusive?
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You are missing the point.


Yes we were ripped off by all of the Senators. Over 80% of Canadians want the Senate squashed. I personally would like to see one of 2 things happen. Collapse the notion of a Senate provided we have Proportional Representative Voting for MP's or make the Senate electable, just like MP's.

Now here is my huge issue with the Duffy result.

It is that many people from the PMO to the RCMP colluded to frame him. For what reason we may never know but can speculate that he was too lose of a talker "I know where the dead bodies are" and maybe they wanted to discredit him so that if he ever did talk, no one would listen since he was a proven scammer and did things (expenses) that he knew were illegal but that was not the result of the case.

The very fact that the head of the RCMP would have gone along with this is frightening for all Canadians.

The fact that neither the Liberals or NDP are demanding an inquiry into this strong arm bs is also frightening but hopefully they are just waiting for the appeal period to expire on May 21......




Beating a dead horse: Why can’t Senate Conservatives let the Duffy affair go?

You can only get so much blood out of a scapegoat.

Just before Mike Duffy's acquital, the leader of the Conservative caucus in the Senate, Leo Housakas, released the following statement:

“In the event Senator Duffy is acquitted on all counts, he will immediately be reinstated to the Senate as a member in full standing with full pay and access to all office resources. Senator Duffy will be allowed to take his seat in the Chamber at the next scheduled sitting.”

Now he's changed his tune. Even though Justice Viallancourt found his expenses legitimate, Housakas wants to review them.

Instead of turning the page, Housakos is trying to turn the page back. Here’s what is on the table: Out of the $124,000 in travel expenses and contracts examined by the RCMP — the spending that provided the foundation for its charges against Duffy — Housakos wants his committee to review $56,546 in travel and $16,995 in contracts.

Why?

The operative idea here seems to be that if Conservatives in the Senate can find Duffy guilty of something — anything — it will have a restorative effect on Harper’s soiled reputation, and take the sting out of Judge Vaillancourt’s otherwise devastating verdict.

Beating a dead horse: Why can’t Senate Conservatives let the Duffy affair go? – iPolitics
 
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Really?
Oh Well,
Anybody out there like deep discussion on the "what if"of this case or any similar cases .
I was hoping someone would be interested in information design.
Oh Well.
 
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The Harperites have never liked the courts or judges.

Remember Stephen Harper’s attack on Supreme Court Chief Justice Beverley McLachlin — the one that had her squirmin’ in her ermine? And then there was Dean Del Mastro’s assertion that his guilty verdict on four counts of electoral fraud was only Judge Lisa Cameron’s “opinion”

The CPC crew has always been happiest being judge in its own cause. It treated the judiciary like interfering busybodies good only for rubber-stamping the government’s agenda, constitutional or otherwise.

So on one level, it’s no surprise to see the Harper appointees who control the Standing Committee on Internal Economy returning at warp speed to a scandal that’s a political shade of kryptonite. They are once again in full-throated pursuit of Senator Mike Duffy for — you guessed it — disputed expense money. Nearly $17,000. (link is external)

The problem is that Justice Charles Vaillancourt found Duffy's expenses allowable under Senate rules -- something Duffy's lawyer, Donald Bayne, has reiterated:

Bayne points out that this amounts to challenging and attacking Justice Vaillancourt’s finding of facts on those very same impugned expense matters now being regurgitated by the Senate. As Bayne reminds the Clerk of the Standing Committee on Internal Economy in a hand-delivered letter dated June 22, “leading evidence which is inconsistent with findings made in the accused’s favour in a previous proceeding” is precluded from subsequent proceedings. “Thus Justice Vaillancourt’s positive factual findings about all of the impugned expense matters cannot be challenged, attacked or contradicted.”

Justice Vaillancourt had all the evidence available to arrive at his decision. There was no new evidence, as the Standing Committee on Internal Economy originally claimed in their June 8, 2016 letter to Duffy asking for repayment of $16,955 in ineligible expenses.

It’s also quite a turnaround. As recently as last April, the Senate’s Internal Economy board suggested that Duffy had run his last gauntlet, telling the CBC’s John Paul Tasker that, as far as the board was concerned, “the matter is closed.”

As it should be. Given past history alone, you’d think Cons like Senator Leo Housakos would rather go camping with Vladimir Putin than look to dun Duffy for more cash — especially since Housakos himself was found to be an expense abuser by the auditor general. (As I recall, he didn’t move a motion to suspend himself from the Red Chamber.)

The Duffy coda: The hypocrites hit back
 
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