Economy will be fine while we meet climate change targets

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Budget watchdog says meeting climate targets won't ruin economy

A new report by Canada's Parliamentary Budget Office refutes claims that a carbon price would ruin the Canadian economy.

"This should not be dismissed as trivial, but it would also not substantially alter the Canadian economy," said the report.
"This would still leave incomes significantly higher than they are today but lower than what they would have been in the absence of carbon pricing."

It concluded that to meet Canada's international target of 30 per cent reduction in GHGs by 2030, Canada will have to bring its emissions down by 208 million tons.

This is equivalent to taking more than all the gasoline and diesel-powered cars and trucks in the country — including off-road vehicles — off the road.

To appreciate the scale of the work required, the report recommended there would have to be a carbon price as high as $100 a ton to force consumption of fossil fuels and the resulting emissions down dramatically.

However, the report also points out that a price on carbon may not have to be quite that high if industries continue to operate using new technologies that lower their emissions.

The report used the Boundary Dam project in Saskatchewan as example. The project took an old coal plant and cleaned it up using carbon capture and storage (CCS). The process captures carbon emissions from the plant and reuses them in the oil industry or stores them underground.

The cost of that project was equivalent to a carbon price of about $57 a ton, leading the report to conclude CCS has potential to reduce emissions while reducing the impacts of meeting climate targets on the overall economy.

"A number of sectors would potentially benefit from its ongoing development and deployment; for example, electricity generation, cement, chemicals and iron and steel. Over the long term, it could account for a large share of emission reductions."

The report also goes on at length about the need for any new policies and carbon prices to be consistent across the country — a bit of pointed advice for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his provincial and territorial colleagues, who are spending the next six months trying to craft a national climate plan that will include some sort of carbon pricing.

Budget watchdog says meeting climate targets won't ruin economy - Politics - CBC News
 

MHz

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So the trick is to crash the economy first and then the desired goals are within reach. If we are part of the G7 then what will happen to the other 99 nations that are poorer than we are?
The world bank has $700T sitting in a drawer marked usury, there is another drawer marked 'business' and that is 51% of the worth of the whole stock market. Then there is the collectables that probably equal what the other two items are worth when combined. How much do you think they will be kicking in??
 

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Let's ban pesticides for lawns, because they are bad for the environment, by selling permits to use it.
 

Danbones

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Any one look at Spain's green economy lately?
"Spain's Green Disaster a Lesson for America..."
...Spain's Colossal Failure...The Spanish recently threw out their socialist government over their terrible economy and a 22 percent unemployment rate...Spain spent billions on an environmental dream that helped make their economy worse and added to the nation's already crushing government debt.

And now Spain's future is looking more like what Greece is facing.
Spain's Green Disaster a Lesson for America - Finance - CBN News - Christian News 24-7 - CBN.com

The carbon tax, going into the sun's 206 year cooling cycle
...getting greeced...
 

captain morgan

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Too funny that the Parliament Budget Office, you know, the one that budgeted a $10 billion dollar deficit that somehow, unexpectedly grew to $30 B (and counting) is the expert on what a crushing carbon tax will do to the economy.

... Then again, what do you expect from a group that believes that budgets balance themselves
 

Danbones

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Global warming?
Dang it, I thought this was a thread about how the governmint parks unicorns
 

JamesBondo

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Budget watchdog says meeting climate targets won't ruin economy

A new report by Canada's Parliamentary Budget Office refutes claims that a carbon price would ruin the Canadian economy.

"This should not be dismissed as trivial, but it would also not substantially alter the Canadian economy," said the report.
"This would still leave incomes significantly higher than they are today but lower than what they would have been in the absence of carbon pricing."

It concluded that to meet Canada's international target of 30 per cent reduction in GHGs by 2030, Canada will have to bring its emissions down by 208 million tons.

This is equivalent to taking more than all the gasoline and diesel-powered cars and trucks in the country — including off-road vehicles — off the road.

To appreciate the scale of the work required, the report recommended there would have to be a carbon price as high as $100 a ton to force consumption of fossil fuels and the resulting emissions down dramatically.

However, the report also points out that a price on carbon may not have to be quite that high if industries continue to operate using new technologies that lower their emissions.

The report used the Boundary Dam project in Saskatchewan as example. The project took an old coal plant and cleaned it up using carbon capture and storage (CCS). The process captures carbon emissions from the plant and reuses them in the oil industry or stores them underground.

The cost of that project was equivalent to a carbon price of about $57 a ton, leading the report to conclude CCS has potential to reduce emissions while reducing the impacts of meeting climate targets on the overall economy.

"A number of sectors would potentially benefit from its ongoing development and deployment; for example, electricity generation, cement, chemicals and iron and steel. Over the long term, it could account for a large share of emission reductions."

The report also goes on at length about the need for any new policies and carbon prices to be consistent across the country — a bit of pointed advice for Prime Minister Justin Trudeau and his provincial and territorial colleagues, who are spending the next six months trying to craft a national climate plan that will include some sort of carbon pricing.

Budget watchdog says meeting climate targets won't ruin economy - Politics - CBC News

Since you are the one that changed "won't ruin" to "will be fine" do you care to define "will be fine"?
 

JamesBondo

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and lets not forget how broad and wide sweeping federal taxes already are. I doubt that I have any carbon that hasn't already been greedily stepped on and taxed by the feds in one form or another.
 

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That doesn't mean we won't need a big pile of money to adjust to the coming change to the climate, it should mean we better be pretty sure before that money actually starts changing things. No use shipping NG east if the towns are going to get 30 ft of snow in any given winter while BC, AB and most of Sask are lucky to see 3 ft. To build the lines and all that and then still have to move people would be 2x the needed expenditure that could have been spend on just moving everybody, at least for the winters.

What is there about the words "national" and "carbon pricing" that's confusing you?
They will tax industry as well as individuals. Carbon tax will be applied to the tickets a person buys to fly or drive or ride from point 'A' to point 'B'.