Justin Trudeau is a Tar Sander

tay

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and all that business about his government following science is self-serving crap. Unlike his failed predecessor, the Liberal prime minister might be the guy who'll drive through the bitumen pipelines (link is external), getting that hazmat sludge to "tidewater."


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government was criticized from all sides on Tuesday in response to a published report that alleged he had instructed key officials to prepare a strategy to approve major new pipeline projects.

John Stone, a former climatologist with Environment Canada, and vice-chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Working Group II, said that building more pipelines is scientifically incompatible with meeting Canada’s climate change commitments.

“If you build a pipeline, you’re going to fill it with tar sands that’s going to increase our emissions and that’s not going to allow us to meet our climate change commitments," said Stone


Conservative MPs attacked Trudeau for not doing more to promote more oil and gas expansion. Trudeau said his government was building for the future by combining both the environment and the economy, while basing decisions on evidence.

"For 10 years, the previous government did everything it could to try and shout those pipelines into being," Trudeau said, in response to a question from Conservative leader Rona Ambrose. "What that resulted in was delivering no pipelines to tidewater. One of the fundamental responsibilities of any prime minister is to get our resources to market. However, in the 21st century, getting those resources to market means doing it responsibly for communities, for indigenous peoples and for the environment."

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Trudeau attacked from all sides over pipeline stance | National Observer
 

MHz

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If it carries NG east and the 'finished crude products can travel by rail as pellets are easy to clean up in a spill. With the lines come with Ontario and Quebec sending Alberta a cheque rather than receiving one which is really what all the anger is about as Alberta is buying their Saudi oil for them when 'we' could supply a local product in higher volume and a lower price, even during a time of extreme shortage.
 

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Rail is too expensive.

Recently, Koch Resources offered to pay anyone a dollar or 2 a bbl to take away high sulphur content heavy crude in South (?) Dakota... They gots lotsa rail lines around there too
 

MHz

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The products I was thinking about are the low volume ones that do not qualify as 'hazardous' such as plastic pellets and finished products could be made closer to the refineries in the west rather than shipping raw products east and getting finished products back at a much higher price. Entice the workers to move west would solve some to the supply needs right there. Raw crude isn't something that should be going by rail, some remote communities should be getting finished products by rail as it is safer than by open road convoys.
 

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and all that business about his government following science is self-serving crap. Unlike his failed predecessor, the Liberal prime minister might be the guy who'll drive through the bitumen pipelines (link is external), getting that hazmat sludge to "tidewater."


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government was criticized from all sides on Tuesday in response to a published report that alleged he had instructed key officials to prepare a strategy to approve major new pipeline projects.

John Stone, a former climatologist with Environment Canada, and vice-chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Working Group II, said that building more pipelines is scientifically incompatible with meeting Canada’s climate change commitments.

“If you build a pipeline, you’re going to fill it with tar sands that’s going to increase our emissions and that’s not going to allow us to meet our climate change commitments," said Stone


Conservative MPs attacked Trudeau for not doing more to promote more oil and gas expansion. Trudeau said his government was building for the future by combining both the environment and the economy, while basing decisions on evidence.

"For 10 years, the previous government did everything it could to try and shout those pipelines into being," Trudeau said, in response to a question from Conservative leader Rona Ambrose. "What that resulted in was delivering no pipelines to tidewater. One of the fundamental responsibilities of any prime minister is to get our resources to market. However, in the 21st century, getting those resources to market means doing it responsibly for communities, for indigenous peoples and for the environment."

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Trudeau attacked from all sides over pipeline stance | National Observer

So some clown from the international liars club thinks that marketing our oil is going to destroy the world but importing oil from the middle east by tanker is OK?
TrudOWE is trying to suck and blow at the same time.
 

Nick Danger

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TrudOWE is trying to suck and blow at the same time.

He's doing what any politician would do given the situation. He's smart enough to realize that the economic benefits of procuring a wider market for our oil are huge, but shrewd enough to realize he has to pull it off in such a way as to minimize the backlash from the environmental front. Not a job I'd care to have at the moment, as so many see a very gray issue in terms of black and white.
 

mentalfloss

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Don't expect the conbots to accept any nuance about a political leader they the umbridge with.

They just spout the latest talking points, which is why they are conbots.
 

MHz

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Iran just upped their output by 90% If we replace Saudi imports with domestic products then they will also be looking for new customers. Rather than build for a foreign market that requires ships that don't exist supply the east with enough volume that they can grow a bit and energy going south would do it from those lines. Great Lakes to the GOM would be produce alley and of the rivers were straightened out and the shore turned into terraced fields then living in a flood plain suggests you build a hill if you don't already have one. For towns you assume the bottom floor is going to get flooded so you move everything to the 2nd and 3rd floors and don't clean up the 'basement' but fill it with silt so it is waterproof and 'stable' in a flood rather than it being empty of anything valuable that a flood can take away. If the east get more moisture their rivers will flow more water at some point in the year. A straight river handles floods better and in the dry part you can keep a deep channel open for heavy traffic. What else are 30M 'refugees' from other parts of North America going to do as a 'hobby'?
 

mentalfloss

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Iran just upped their output by 90% If we replace Saudi imports with domestic products then they will also be looking for new customers. Rather than build for a foreign market that requires ships that don't exist supply the east with enough volume that they can grow a bit and energy going south would do it from those lines. Great Lakes to the GOM would be produce alley and of the rivers were straightened out and the shore turned into terraced fields then living in a flood plain suggests you build a hill if you don't already have one. For towns you assume the bottom floor is going to get flooded so you move everything to the 2nd and 3rd floors and don't clean up the 'basement' but fill it with silt so it is waterproof and 'stable' in a flood rather than it being empty of anything valuable that a flood can take away. If the east get more moisture their rivers will flow more water at some point in the year. A straight river handles floods better and in the dry part you can keep a deep channel open for heavy traffic. What else are 30M 'refugees' from other parts of North America going to do as a 'hobby'?

Well at least you make more sense than Loc does.
 

mentalfloss

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Are you having a seizure there lockjaw?

Don't let that once in a lifetime opportunity get to your head.
 

Retired_Can_Soldier

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and all that business about his government following science is self-serving crap. Unlike his failed predecessor, the Liberal prime minister might be the guy who'll drive through the bitumen pipelines (link is external), getting that hazmat sludge to "tidewater."


Prime Minister Justin Trudeau's government was criticized from all sides on Tuesday in response to a published report that alleged he had instructed key officials to prepare a strategy to approve major new pipeline projects.

John Stone, a former climatologist with Environment Canada, and vice-chair of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change’s Working Group II, said that building more pipelines is scientifically incompatible with meeting Canada’s climate change commitments.

“If you build a pipeline, you’re going to fill it with tar sands that’s going to increase our emissions and that’s not going to allow us to meet our climate change commitments," said Stone


Conservative MPs attacked Trudeau for not doing more to promote more oil and gas expansion. Trudeau said his government was building for the future by combining both the environment and the economy, while basing decisions on evidence.

"For 10 years, the previous government did everything it could to try and shout those pipelines into being," Trudeau said, in response to a question from Conservative leader Rona Ambrose. "What that resulted in was delivering no pipelines to tidewater. One of the fundamental responsibilities of any prime minister is to get our resources to market. However, in the 21st century, getting those resources to market means doing it responsibly for communities, for indigenous peoples and for the environment."

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Trudeau attacked from all sides over pipeline stance | National Observer


On behalf of Alberta, suck it.

If Trudeau does this he will get a thumbs up from me.