Andrew Coyne: Conservatives need rebirth before they can rebuild

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Andrew Coyne: Conservatives need rebirth before they can rebuild

The “Conservative century” would seem to have lasted less than a decade. Monday’s provincial election in Newfoundland brings to precisely zero the number of nominally Conservative governments in the country, following earlier defeats in Alberta, Prince Edward Island, Ontario, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Manitoba and of course the federal Conservatives’ dismal showing in October.

Manitoba’s Conservatives may break the string in next year’s vote, if they can finally shed their habit of handing victory to the NDP, but elsewhere Conservatives, and conservatives, seem destined to spend some considerable time in the wilderness. Conservative parties in Atlantic Canada control barely a quarter of the seats in the region’s legislatures. Alberta’s Wildrose party did well to come back from the dead in this spring’s election, but will have to wait four years for a shot at power.

It isn’t just that there are no Conservative governments anywhere in the country, for the first time since 1943. There aren’t even any conservative ones. British Columbia’s Liberals and Saskatchewan’s Saskatchewan Party are sometimes identified as such, but they are more defined as not-NDP than anything else.

There is nothing resembling a conservative party in Quebec — the closest thing to it, the Coalition Avenir Québec, holds just 22 of the province’s 125 seats — nor it seems in Ontario, where new leader Patrick Brown presents himself as an almost perfectly blank slate.

It would be too much to blame all this on Stephen Harper. However toxic the Conservative brand may have become federally, provincial politics has its own rhythms and concerns. Still, if the proposition, heard until quite lately, was that Harper had brought about a fundamental realignment in Canadian politics, that he had not only made the Conservatives contenders for power but discernibly moved Canadian public opinion in a conservative direction, there is scant evidence of it.

Quite the contrary. Only four previous governments in our history have gone down to worse defeats, measured either by the percentage loss in seats or popular vote. And while those previous defeats can be explained either by terrible economic conditions (1935, 1984, 1993) or profound social divisions (1921, the first election after the First World War and the conscription crisis), the Conservatives’ present plight seems wholly self-inflicted.

Electoral defeat, moreover, is only the half of it. Conservatism is not just losing elections. As a political movement, it has — let us not mince words — ceased to offer a coherent or attractive alternative. On the most pressing questions of the day, from the environment to social justice, it is either unwilling or unable to present any serious answer to the prescriptions of the left, or even to offer much resistance.

At best it can hope to profit from the left’s miscues, but even in power it lacks the self-confidence to define an agenda, let alone pursue one. The nastiness of the Harper government may have been peculiar to it, but in its aimlessness and timidity, its unwillingness to invest political capital or confess to an ideology, it has its counterparts in conservative parties across the country — in sharp contrast to the robust self-confidence of the left.

Andrew Coyne: Conservatives need rebirth before they can rebuild
 

Glacier

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BC Liberals are conservatives. To say otherwise is a stretch. Ask any lefty how they feel about them.
 

Cannuck

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All one has to do is look at those on this forum that identify themselves as Conservative and ask yourself, would I vote for them if they were running in an election? The fact that these Conservative supporters are more concerned with childish insults of other parties and leaders than dealing with their own issues says an awful lot.
 

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one nice thing about the global government we are about to get shafted with, which will supercede all our nationalisms, will probably only have one party...
much less complicated thinking for most people...

well there will be one other little party
a wild party at the top
but not to worry, or have to bother with elections for that gig
 

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Maybe they should just stop being idiotic a-holes but what do I know ..


Andrew Coyne: Conservatives need rebirth before they can rebuild

The “Conservative century” would seem to have lasted less than a decade. Monday’s provincial election in Newfoundland brings to precisely zero the number of nominally Conservative governments in the country, following earlier defeats in Alberta, Prince Edward Island, Ontario, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Manitoba and of course the federal Conservatives’ dismal showing in October.

Manitoba’s Conservatives may break the string in next year’s vote, if they can finally shed their habit of handing victory to the NDP, but elsewhere Conservatives, and conservatives, seem destined to spend some considerable time in the wilderness. Conservative parties in Atlantic Canada control barely a quarter of the seats in the region’s legislatures. Alberta’s Wildrose party did well to come back from the dead in this spring’s election, but will have to wait four years for a shot at power.

It isn’t just that there are no Conservative governments anywhere in the country, for the first time since 1943. There aren’t even any conservative ones. British Columbia’s Liberals and Saskatchewan’s Saskatchewan Party are sometimes identified as such, but they are more defined as not-NDP than anything else.

There is nothing resembling a conservative party in Quebec — the closest thing to it, the Coalition Avenir Québec, holds just 22 of the province’s 125 seats — nor it seems in Ontario, where new leader Patrick Brown presents himself as an almost perfectly blank slate.

It would be too much to blame all this on Stephen Harper. However toxic the Conservative brand may have become federally, provincial politics has its own rhythms and concerns. Still, if the proposition, heard until quite lately, was that Harper had brought about a fundamental realignment in Canadian politics, that he had not only made the Conservatives contenders for power but discernibly moved Canadian public opinion in a conservative direction, there is scant evidence of it.

Quite the contrary. Only four previous governments in our history have gone down to worse defeats, measured either by the percentage loss in seats or popular vote. And while those previous defeats can be explained either by terrible economic conditions (1935, 1984, 1993) or profound social divisions (1921, the first election after the First World War and the conscription crisis), the Conservatives’ present plight seems wholly self-inflicted.

Electoral defeat, moreover, is only the half of it. Conservatism is not just losing elections. As a political movement, it has — let us not mince words — ceased to offer a coherent or attractive alternative. On the most pressing questions of the day, from the environment to social justice, it is either unwilling or unable to present any serious answer to the prescriptions of the left, or even to offer much resistance.

At best it can hope to profit from the left’s miscues, but even in power it lacks the self-confidence to define an agenda, let alone pursue one. The nastiness of the Harper government may have been peculiar to it, but in its aimlessness and timidity, its unwillingness to invest political capital or confess to an ideology, it has its counterparts in conservative parties across the country — in sharp contrast to the robust self-confidence of the left.

Andrew Coyne: Conservatives need rebirth before they can rebuild

You want the left to have a total lock on being a$$holes?
 

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mentalfloss

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All one has to do is look at those on this forum that identify themselves as Conservative and ask yourself, would I vote for them if they were running in an election? The fact that these Conservative supporters are more concerned with childish insults of other parties and leaders than dealing with their own issues says an awful lot.

Now now Cannuck.

Pointing that out makes you a massive hypocrite you know.
 

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one nice thing about the global government we are about to get shafted with, which will supercede all our nationalisms, will probably only have one party...
much less complicated thinking for most people...

well there will be one other little party
a wild party at the top
but not to worry, or have to bother with elections for that gig

We are to be enslaved by the climate changelings. Thier contribution to the planet and the human race will only be lauded arround 2030 when finally the temperature will plunge because of the sacrifices these illustrious Climate Gaurdians.
 

coldstream

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The Conservatives poblem is that in recent years.. and certainly under Steven Harper they were NEVER really Conservative.

They were NEOconservative.. which is a euphemism for Classic British Liberalism.. or radical Libertarianism.

Real Conservatives believe in dirigiste, nationalistic, planned economies.. they believe in the role of institutions in the social structure (like real marriage.. like the formative Christian religion in Western Civilization).. in equitable sharing of wealth.. in responsible Free Enterprise, rather than predatory and exploitative Free Markets. They believe in public ownership of natural monopolies and regulation of markets in the common interest. They believe in traditional values, in family, are pro life.

Harper capitualted to supranational oligarchies of financial and trading interests. He guaranteed himself millions of dollars in board memberships and appointments by selling out his country (along with his sidekick Flaherty). He gave lip service but NEVER any support to conservative social causes.. in which he had virtually no interest.

He is out of office because he's a lying, incompetent, drooling little prick.. without an iota or integrity or real patriotism.. who has done immense damage to Canada.