Majority of Canadians opposed...........

darkbeaver

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The compromized Canadian media presstitutes keep pushing the humanitarian angle for just these particular refugees while Canadas allies continue to produce refugees in greater numbers. Wouldn't stopping the conflicts and engaging in rebuilding be a smarter move. What about the millions of displaced Lybians? Who cares about the Iraqis driven by war for fourteen fukking years of western murderers from thier homes? The present global elite have to be engaged, like in prisons.
 

Bar Sinister

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Relax - it's the National Post, Canada's favourite right wing rag. Everything it prints has to be taken with a grain of salt. In any case, government by opinion poll is the worst sort of government. Far too often I've seen governments (both right wing and left wing) suddenly change their stance on an issue due to some opinion poll. I call it weather vane politics and it does not make for good government.
 

Vbeacher

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The compromized Canadian media presstitutes keep pushing the humanitarian angle for just these particular refugees while Canadas allies continue to produce refugees in greater numbers. Wouldn't stopping the conflicts and engaging in rebuilding be a smarter move.

Unless you've got a magic wand (which I wouldn't put past you) the only way of stopping the conflict is to kill the other side or surrender to it.
 

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I've heard that the evangelists in Texass are at odds with the conservative elected officials there over this issue. Politicians No...Preachers Yes. There ya go. It's solved. All those multi million dollar televangelist can sell their Lear jets and a couple of their vacation homes and a Rolls Royce or two and foot the entire bill . No worries.
 

darkbeaver

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Unless you've got a magic wand (which I wouldn't put past you) the only way of stopping the conflict is to kill the other side or surrender to it.

Oh the other side. Well you seem stuck on the conventional two sided conflict. For a long long time now three sides is the minimum.
Two sides are in direct opposition both supported by the third who foment the conflict with the aim of taking the loot off both contestants. The economic miracle of warfare has come a long way forward since the stone age. So wealthy industrialists foment the trouble arm both sides till those contestants are exhausted and then step in with armistice agreements and reconstruction loans. It's that winning third side that has to be neutralized or war will remain permanent in human relations. War is the ruling industry of the world controling all other economic activity. They only feed us so we can go to war and they dangle peace in front of us as incentive to fight hard for the motherland homeland fatherland empire etc. Many banks are older than most nations.Coin shavers, conterfiters, fractional reserves, paper money, con games, all fueled by insane greed and barely imaginable evil interupted by periods of reconstruction and fattening and then the harvesting starts again. Of course that's a bit simplified cuz the devilish details are beyond my rural pervue.
 

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Nanos poll showed the high percentage of Canadians opposed to admitting the refugees. The Liberal spokeswoman on Power play didn't agree. She said, "those are only polls". She sure wasn't saying that when the pre-election polls showed the Liberals leading! Very selective!
 

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Obviously, this possibly could be the mark that Trudeau leaves in Canadian history. He needs to not be afraid of backing down and closing the door on the refugees, or at least slow down the process. This is not the same situation as in 1939 when both the Canadians and the Americans turned away a boatload of Jews, none of whom were a threat to either country.
 

darkbeaver

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Obviously, this possibly could be the mark that Trudeau leaves in Canadian history. He needs to not be afraid of backing down and closing the door on the refugees, or at least slow down the process. This is not the same situation as in 1939 when both the Canadians and the Americans turned away a boatload of Jews, none of whom were a threat to either country.

So you know for a fact that none of those people were criminals? How could you know that? Or have you just automatically assumed that? What was the threat percieved by both the Canadians and the Americans? And why did they think like that?
 

damngrumpy

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Government by opinion polls on every issue is the worst form of government
What people are against today in six months they are for in many cases and
governance becomes impossible. You can't lump everyone together in a case
like this most want to get away from the misery.
We are not going to have life run smooth and to think it will is an illusion but in
the long run things will work out.
I do believe however we must stay and fight ISIS and we can't negotiate with them
because the will not even consider such a proposal it is a fight to the finish and in
this case children should not pay the price.
 

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Well, it's idiotic anyway you want to look at it. What's the difference if it's Dec. 31 or Jan. 15? The ONLY criteria is it has to be done right, so there's no repercussions later.

Government by opinion polls on every issue is the worst form of government
What people are against today in six months they are for in many cases and
governance becomes impossible. You can't lump everyone together in a case
like this most want to get away from the misery.
We are not going to have life run smooth and to think it will is an illusion but in
the long run things will work out.
I do believe however we must stay and fight ISIS and we can't negotiate with them
because the will not even consider such a proposal it is a fight to the finish and in
this case children should not pay the price.

So much for that..............Justin wants to be nice to them and get along with them. When weather improves he'll probably invite them over for a barbeque.
 

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So you know for a fact that none of those people were criminals? How could you know that? Or have you just automatically assumed that? What was the threat percieved by both the Canadians and the Americans? And why did they think like that?
They weren't perceived as a threat, it was "soft anti-Semitism". They had the right to live free from ethnic persecution, just not over here. There was another reason though, the numbers. It's the same reason for the objections to the current situation. It's not that everyone is necessarily objecting to taking in extra refugees, it's the number within the time frame that's disturbing.
There are legitimate concerns they won't be properly vetted.
 
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They weren't perceived as a threat, it was "soft anti-Semitism". They had the right to live free from ethnic persecution, just not over here. There was another reason though, the numbers. It's the same reason for the objections to the current situation. It's not that everyone is necessarily objecting to taking in extra refugees, it's the number within the time frame that's disturbing.
There are legitimate concerns they won't be properly vetted.

There are also legitimate concerns regarding housing, feeding, medical care, interpreters and language training for the refugees.

I was rather taken aback by Crispy Clarke's NIMBY pronouncement on the refugees.

Clark told media on the weekend that she believes refugees will get their best start in places like the Peace region, where she says "they've got almost zero unemployment and the cost of housing is a lot lower."

"Sometimes settling in a smaller community is a much warmer welcome," she said. "So let's … encourage them to go to communities where they will have the best chance of success, the warmest welcome, and the best chance of making sure that they can find work and afford a home."

Syrian refugee backlash 'un-Canadian,' says former B.C. premier Ujjal Dosanjh - British Columbia - CBC News

'A much warmer welcome' eh Crispy...........bit of a slap in the face to the larger centers don't you think?