Scientists reveal what was kept secret under Harper's reign

[mentalfloss]

Max Bothwell, research scientist at Environment Canada

“I list a series of four hypotheses that might explain this, and one of them is climate change,” Dr. Bothwell said.

He added that, for the first time this past summer, rock snot started to bloom in the St. Mary’s River, which connects Lake Superior and Lake Huron.

“What that tells me is that this organism is what I said it was – it is a sentinel species – and it’s telling us that there is something wrong in Lake Superior.”


Kristi Miller, molecular geneticist in the Department of Fisheries and Oceans

“Basically, the full range of microbes that are associated with diseases in salmon worldwide, we can detect them – and we can detect them incredibly quickly,” Dr. Miller said.

“What’s exciting about this is that we are ahead of the curve, even of the human world. You can’t go into a human diagnostic lab and in 24 hours be tested for 45 different pathogens.

This is the first time in my career in genomics that I have been ahead of the curve when it comes to human medicine.”


Philippe Thomas, wildlife biologist with Environment Canada

For three years, Philippe Thomas has been studying the health of fur-bearing animals living in the Alberta oil sands. Partnering with hunters, trappers and First Nations communities in the Peace-Athabasca Delta, the federal wildlife biologist has collected the carcasses of more than 1,700 mammals – such as lynxes, muskrats and river otters – caught initially for commercial trapping.

The collection process wound down this past spring; Mr. Thomas is now conducting contaminant analyses on their livers. The research is part of the Joint Oil Sands Monitoring program, a Canada-Alberta initiative to monitor environmental indicators.

Three scientists on the research they couldn’t discuss with media under Harper - The Globe and Mail

 

[captain morgan]

I can hardly wait until those scienticians reveal to the world the top secret pharma recipe for curing headaches in mice... Damn Harper, discriminating against mice an all

What a joyous day

 

[petros]

Climate change? Rock snot? Really?

Didymosphenia geminata, commonly known as didymo or rock snot, is a species of diatom that produces nuisance growths in freshwater rivers and streams with consistently cold water temperatures and low nutrient levels.

 

[Jinentonix]

For three years, Philippe Thomas has been studying the health of fur-bearing animals living in the Alberta oil sands. Partnering with hunters, trappers and First Nations communities in the Peace-Athabasca Delta, the federal wildlife biologist has collected the carcasses of more than 1,700 mammals – such as lynxes, muskrats and river otters – caught initially for commercial trapping.

The collection process wound down this past spring; Mr. Thomas is now conducting contaminant analyses on their livers. The research is part of the Joint Oil Sands Monitoring program, a Canada-Alberta initiative to monitor environmental indicators.

Unfortunately, this study is useless because there's no control. How do you determine oil sands exploitation was the cause if you don't have any examples of wildlife in the area BEFORE it was exploited? You know, back when the area was a still a toxic mess but before exploitation. Or are you one of those silly buggers that actually thinks the majority of the "before" pics in the before and after shots of the oil sands are actually of the land that was dug up after, and that the area was a pristine, unspoiled wilderness.

 

[Tecumsehsbones]

Zombies, right?

Gotta be zombies.

 

[DaSleeper]

Unfortunately, this study is useless because there's no control. How do you determine oil sands exploitation was the cause if you don't have any examples of wildlife in the area BEFORE it was exploited? You know, back when the area was a still a toxic mess but before exploitation. Or are you one of those silly buggers that actually thinks the majority of the "before" pics in the before and after shots of the oil sands are actually of the land that was dug up after, and that the area was a pristine, unspoiled wilderness.

Maybe it's why the interviews were denied....people like Flossy making a big to-do about nothing, and the ditto heads that agree with them simply because it's the yuppie thing to do...
I guess that Trudeau is not completely clueless...he knows exactly what to let out to satisfy the sheeple
That and a beatific smile from him is enough......:lol:

 

[petros]

Unfortunately, this study is useless because there's no control. How do you determine oil sands exploitation was the cause if you don't have any examples of wildlife in the area BEFORE it was exploited? You know, back when the area was a still a toxic mess but before exploitation. Or are you one of those silly buggers that actually thinks the majority of the "before" pics in the before and after shots of the oil sands are actually of the land that was dug up after, and that the area was a pristine, unspoiled wilderness.

If there were a control critters would classed into three groups because of the high levels of minerals in the country rock at surface which are poly metallic shales. Trace mineral levels in AB and SK that are high enough to be commercially exracted.

The Alberta Black Shale Project is a massive polymetallic formation (1,050 square miles) that contains molybdenum, nickel, uranium, vanadium, zinc, copper, cobalt, silver, gold, and an array of rare earths including lithium. It’s a huge and valuable formation.

And it has the potential to be a complete game changer — so much so that the Canadian media is calling it “the mine of the future,” saying the “mineral wealth is virtually limitless.”

 

[mentalfloss]

Unfortunately, this study is useless because there's no control. How do you determine oil sands exploitation was the cause if you don't have any examples of wildlife in the area BEFORE it was exploited? You know, back when the area was a still a toxic mess but before exploitation. Or are you one of those silly buggers that actually thinks the majority of the "before" pics in the before and after shots of the oil sands are actually of the land that was dug up after, and that the area was a pristine, unspoiled wilderness.

Yes the study is useless. :lol:

 

[petros]

Yes it is.

 

[Twila]

Unfortunately, this study is useless because there's no control. How do you determine oil sands exploitation was the cause if you don't have any examples of wildlife in the area BEFORE it was exploited? You know, back when the area was a still a toxic mess but before exploitation. Or are you one of those silly buggers that actually thinks the majority of the "before" pics in the before and after shots of the oil sands are actually of the land that was dug up after, and that the area was a pristine, unspoiled wilderness.

They don't necessarily need animals that were there before the oil sands. They just need to study animals that have never been there to determine if that area is toxic and what kind of toxic it is and what that impact could have on animals as they travel through, propagate there and what impact anything eating those animals has on other animals including humans.

The idea is not to find what is wrong and what is right about the oil sands. What to find out what if anything is going on. It's knowledge that can be used in the future for oil spill clean up and rehabing animals caught in oil spills.

The great thing about science is that you find out 1 thing, but that 1 thing can inspire curiousity about other things that lead to unpredicted knowledge.

 

[B00Mer]

Scientists reveal what was kept secret under Harper's reign

.... a cure for Mental Loss's stupidity. :lol:

 

[Jinentonix]

They don't necessarily need animals that were there before the oil sands. They just need to study animals that have never been there to determine if that area is toxic and what kind of toxic it is and what that impact could have on animals as they travel through, propagate there and what impact anything eating those animals has on other animals including humans.

The area has always been toxic, that was my original point. Checking livers for toxicity in dead animals today leads people like Flossie to believe that there was never a problem before man started exploiting the oil sands. When in fact they were a bit of a toxic mess before the first human broke ground on them to retrieve the oil sand. Oil has always leeched into the surrounding waterways. Although not likely to the extent it has more recently.

The idea is not to find what is wrong and what is right about the oil sands. What to find out what if anything is going on. It's knowledge that can be used in the future for oil spill clean up and rehabing animals caught in oil spills.

While I fully agree with your premise, it hardly seems the kind of thing that would require the enforcing of the NDAs that scientists in the federal employ signed. And that's because that's not what the scientists were publicly saying.

The great thing about science is that you find out 1 thing, but that 1 thing can inspire curiousity about other things that lead to unpredicted knowledge.

No argument here. I guess I should have qualified my statement about the study being useless by stating that it's useless for the reasons people like Flossie think it isn't.

His only interest in science is when he thinks (if you'll pardon the exaggeration) that it confirms his ideological beliefs.

 

[MHz]

If the study doesn't include the effects of the dam on the Peace River then it isn't a complete study. The spring floods used to fill a lot of waterholes and duck ponds, without that happening the 'wetlands' are going savanna like they should in what they see as a dry season. Species also change with that micro climate change and the tar sands play little or no part in that aspect of the changes the area is experiencing.

Climate change? Rock snot? Really?

Didymosphenia geminata, commonly known as didymo or rock snot, is a species of diatom that produces nuisance growths in freshwater rivers and streams with consistently cold water temperatures and low nutrient levels.

Alberta and such could switch to a crop that could add a lot of food for fish to the water but there is nobody there to catch the schools of fish.

Scientists reveal what was kept secret under Harper's reign

.... a cure for Mental Loss's stupidity. :lol:

There is no cure for the kind you have.

 

[DaSleeper]

Take your pills!

 

[MHz]

Or your kind.