On the news tonight I heard them report that they "found" money enough for a 1.9 billion surplus. I guess the conservatives tightened their belts enough (cut the money out of programs that are needed). It happened at a very fortuitous time. A funny story. My NDP candidate came to the door. I asked him how his party was going to pay for $15/day childcare. He said paying $15/hr for 6 kids. Didn't say where they would be house. To me it is amazing how this 1.9 billion is going to be spent so many times over. Kind of like a kid dreaming about over spending his allowance.
The Official Quit Picking on Stephen Harper Thread
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The N.D.P. is by far the best political party..................................................................until someone else's money runs out! (You may not have been on here the last time I said that)
Somehow, I really don't trust these fellows in government, right now. They've done nothing to impress upon me they in any way understand taxation. Or even representation. They don't understand governing, whatsoever, to be honest.
A $1.9 billion surplus when they'd forecast a $2 billion deficit? Seems shady. Something stinks of a lie.
The most likely reason is the government is excluding something from the budget.
Some thing or things totaling $3 billion in spending, not being accounted for by this Conservative government. It'd be nice if we had a budget officer who'd have already looked into the numbers to announce whether the government was being honest or not.
The Military, Veterans Affairs, the CBC, Air Canada, the NFB, healthcare, Canada Pension Plan, ect, and ect.
Somebody, the press and opposition parties, needs to look into these numbers, and do it quick, because they stink of fudge.
Thankfully and surprisingly the Ottawa Citizen has.......
Lee Berthiaume reports (link is external) on the $8.7 billion budgeted but unspent by the federal government over the past year. And if the Cons want to try to claim credit for the government's fiscal position, then surely they have to answer a couple of key questions for the money that went unspent:
What caused them to decide between 2014 and 2015 that the funding they themselves included in the budget shouldn't be used? And if they're on such an unsound fiscal footing that they feel the need to slash this much within a year of passing their preferred funding amounts in a majority Parliament, why would anybody take their platform numbers and promises seriously?
While the Conservatives have portrayed lapses as proof of economic prudence, critics say they amount to cuts by stealth. They say this is how the government can take money from Veterans Affairs, National Defence and other departments without actually cutting budgets.
Canadians won’t know exactly which departments or programs were affected until after the election, when the government publishes its annual detailed accounts. But figures produced by the Parliamentary Budget Office over the weekend provide an idea of where some of the money came from.
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Federal departments left $8.7 billion unspent last year | Ottawa Citizen
A $1.9 billion surplus when they'd forecast a $2 billion deficit? Seems shady. Something stinks of a lie.
The most likely reason is the government is excluding something from the budget.
Some thing or things totaling $3 billion in spending, not being accounted for by this Conservative government. It'd be nice if we had a budget officer who'd have already looked into the numbers to announce whether the government was being honest or not.
The Military, Veterans Affairs, the CBC, Air Canada, the NFB, healthcare, Canada Pension Plan, ect, and ect.
Somebody, the press and opposition parties, needs to look into these numbers, and do it quick, because they stink of fudge.
Thankfully and surprisingly the Ottawa Citizen has.......
Lee Berthiaume reports (link is external) on the $8.7 billion budgeted but unspent by the federal government over the past year. And if the Cons want to try to claim credit for the government's fiscal position, then surely they have to answer a couple of key questions for the money that went unspent:
What caused them to decide between 2014 and 2015 that the funding they themselves included in the budget shouldn't be used? And if they're on such an unsound fiscal footing that they feel the need to slash this much within a year of passing their preferred funding amounts in a majority Parliament, why would anybody take their platform numbers and promises seriously?
While the Conservatives have portrayed lapses as proof of economic prudence, critics say they amount to cuts by stealth. They say this is how the government can take money from Veterans Affairs, National Defence and other departments without actually cutting budgets.
Canadians won’t know exactly which departments or programs were affected until after the election, when the government publishes its annual detailed accounts. But figures produced by the Parliamentary Budget Office over the weekend provide an idea of where some of the money came from.
more
Federal departments left $8.7 billion unspent last year | Ottawa Citizen
I suppose when the (your party here) get in, you'll become trusting to the point of gullibility, and post ferocious defenses of everything they do, no?
Is there any non-wackaloon, independent source calling it into question?
I hope you're not in charge. a $2bn deficit to a $1.9bn surplus rounds to a $4bn difference, not $3bn.
So, is it fair to say that NDP and Liberal supporters oppose surpluses?
No one opposes a surplus in principle, but it should be achieved through economic growth not slashing services. The fact that this surplus is less than 0.1% of our GDP just shows it's nothing to celebrate and is nothing to do with 'economics'.
Unless a Conservative government is in power.
So, what's your desideratum? Specifically, what "services" should be provided to all by the government, and what should be the level of taxation?
Admit it, if the country was in a one-penny deficit, you'd be screaming from the housetops that Harper has DOOOOOOOMED Canada.
It is called watching the pennies. To make this little difference all they would have to do is stop the multitudes of ministries from spending their mad money in the spring.
I'm sure whoeverdafuq "TJ" is would appreciate that.
Thomas Jefferson? Tom Jones? Tim Horton?
Up that'll work..
I meant JT, but something typing on a iPhone, it's hard to see what you're writing.
Justin Trudeau or Trudeau Junior.. :lol:
I disagree, services are good in good times, when the economy is down we should be doing more for ourselves and depending less on services. During tough times we should be laying off bureaucraps, not hiring more.
Just refer to him as Jr. everyone understands that!
We are probably one of the over serviced countries in the world.
The Nobel Prize for Economics.. was NOT one of the original categories specified by Alfred Nobel, and is not now an 'official' award. The Nobel Committee was payed for the use of the name. It was conceived and bankrolled by a Swedish bank, in order to promote Global Free Market Economic theory and first awarded in 1969.
Free Trade and monetarism, deregulation and privatization has brought on an era of vast polarization of wealth, death of the Middle Class (of home ownership, access to affordable higher education, to secure employment and pensions), deindustrialization, rampant speculation, indebtedness, market turmoil and corruption through out the West.. which is in imminent and seemingly irreversable economic decline.
So for Harper's creative and deceptive bookkeeping, for his tireless and pathetic grovelling before the Global Financial and Trading oligarchies, for his abandonment of Canada's economic integrity and future.. maybe he does deserve the 'award'. Given to quislings and obfuscants.. for disguising the dire straits in which his policies have placed us.
Sit stephen, roll over, wag.. here's your bone.. wuff.
Free Trade and monetarism, deregulation and privatization has brought on an era of vast polarization of wealth, death of the Middle Class (of home ownership, access to affordable higher education, to secure employment and pensions), deindustrialization, rampant speculation, indebtedness, market turmoil and corruption through out the West.. which is in imminent and seemingly irreversable economic decline.
So for Harper's creative and deceptive bookkeeping, for his tireless and pathetic grovelling before the Global Financial and Trading oligarchies, for his abandonment of Canada's economic integrity and future.. maybe he does deserve the 'award'. Given to quislings and obfuscants.. for disguising the dire straits in which his policies have placed us.
Sit stephen, roll over, wag.. here's your bone.. wuff.
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What seems to prevent people from connecting the continuous warfare conducted on the already free world to make it bend to the conspirators will of instituting this Global Free Market Economic monolith is that one word "free". Oh how that word has been pounded into us very far past the point of it's neutral meaning. It's proponents lust after the freedom to rape pillage and burn and nothing else but that. The exceeding few will be free the rest will be in permanent bondage. He should have the award, as a mark of his treachery.
The reason that I wanted to give hom the Nobel Economics award is because Harper has his degree in economics.
Yeah, they are having a hard time bad mouthing Harper, since his surplus was divulged.
